sorry, bad grammar, i meant to say is 'how do we know they were part of the four of them' ... did they leave behind wallets or picture ids w/out their bags on'? they could just be 'the usual suspects' just to get the good guys off their backs....
Posted on 05/21/2004 5:54:32 AM PDT by TexKat
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi police have arrested four people in the killing of American Nicholas Berg, an Iraqi security official said Friday.
The suspects were former members of Saddam Hussein 's Fedayeen paramilitary organization, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. They were arrested a week ago.
Berg's body was found in Baghdad on May 8. He had been decapitated. He was last seen on April 10 when he left his Baghdad hotel.
Interesting.
Now they are identified as members of Saddam's little group of terrorists. Didn't they identify themselves as Al Qaeda?
Are we sure this time?
Paging Lynnie England, paging Lynnie England...
That's great news -- thanks for the post.
Look for the mainstream media to yawn and minimize this news -- they're more worried about panties on the head, and Nick Berg doesn't fit their script.
This time? They were arrested a week ago. Sounds like the first story was probably legit.
Again?
Do we get to ask them "pretty please" if they know anything?
how do we know they were four of them and why isn't zowacowifuftevgcu one of the guys and are these four guys zowacowiufbrdegshdk threw out to be caught so he could get away? ....... i don't believe it
Iraqi police? Most likely four people yanked off the street so that the real culprits will get away with it.
Definitely. I think they are members of both groups.
maybe there is no difference.
Very interesting.
But here's the spin that will inevitable come from the left:
"They joined up AFTER the invasion."
Completely ignoring the fact that 1) Al-Zaqawi had been a frequent resident of Husseins Iraq (in BAGHDAD) for years. Most recently running there after we invaded Afghanistan and he's been there ever since. 2) Terrorists don't wear uniforms or have and identifying marks, they don't broadcast that they are terrorists and in order for them to find each other there had to be a pre-existing communication procedure AND a bit of trust built up which would indicate to anyone with a hint of common sense and objectivity that they already knew each other fairly well.
I hope we don't put panties on their heads. That would be an atrocity. They deserve nothing less than a good shampoo and condition. Along with a well deserved manicure and pedicure. There better be plasma tvs in their suites as well or we will be pissed. When is the DNC sending an attorney to help them? Will there be a legal defense fund set up by Barney Frank and John Kerry? Will Jesse Jackson try to negotiate their release? What about their healthcare? Who will feed their children? Did Bush cause them to lose their jobs? What did WE do to cause these innocent men to kill? Did Berg hurt their feelings? We need an investigation.
Definitely that will be the spin.
A link to all the contacts OBL had with Saddam:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127451/posts?q=1&&page=51
I was being sarcastic and took the tone of a flippant left-wing editor who undoubtedly saw this story a week ago and shrugged it off.
I should have been a little clearer. My bad. Need coffee.
Fox News just reported that they talked to someone in the Coalition Authority. The four were detained, not arrested. Two have been released and two remain detained in connection with Berg's murder.
Watch the mods move the thread to chat.
That's what they did last time the story was reported.
Anybody have a problem with torturing these guys to get info on Zarqawi?
Ahh, okay. Or maybe I'm the one in need of caffeine. :-)
No problem whatsoever.
I'd rather sit here and watch ungrateful, often clueless, folks throw unfounded criticism at the moderators.
It's hard to believe that we have the kind of good intelligence to run these creeps to ground so soon after their crime but not good enough intelligence to capture them (and their friends) before they carry out their missions. There are criminals, mass murderers, etc.in the US that it takes officials years to catch up with. And, here in the US, there is more crime fighting infrastructure, personnel, co operation, etc. at the disposal of law enforcement. Am I being naive?
Possible? I guarandamntee it!
As someone who has been hoping and urging for proactive action against Islamic terrorism for a long time, I took it upon myself to do a little research about terrorists and who they are and how they operate. With nothing more than publicly available information I was able to deduce that Al-qaeda is really like a cartel. Different, smaller, terrorist groups united under one banner. Most of its "members" are really part of one or a couple of terrorists organizations. Once a person decides to be a terrorist, they usually just keep "signing" up with different groups. The likelihood of a Fedayeen being al-qaeda or a member of any other terrorist group is pretty high. They are fanatics.
This is something that the media knows. They just don't write stories about it because 1) it would actually put the problem of Islamic terrorism in context and 2) would paint the war on terror in the correct light and make reasonable people, who when finally informed of the truth, be able to put all the pieces in place and see how the removal of Hussein was and is an integral part of the war on terror.
It's a deliberate campaign to keep people in the dark.
If the report is not verified..it's spculation over a rumor that's printed as fact by the news organization.
I would not torture these guys to get information. No, I would send them to Israeli specialists. Afterwards an "insurgent mortar strike" on their prison cells would take care of any evidentiary issues. Too bad I'm not in charge, eh?
This is old news (the arrests), but I gues nnow that the LIEberal media has pickup on on it it's deamed NEW News!~}
The mininum number is the amount in the photo 5? plus the two camera holders.
>Do we get to ask them "pretty please" if they know anything?<
Only after serving a chocolate sunday with a cherry on top.
Perhaps their executions or better still thier "burial" in a hog yard should be video taped and provided to Al Jazeera for the viewing pleasure of the Muslim world.
sorry, bad grammar, i meant to say is 'how do we know they were part of the four of them' ... did they leave behind wallets or picture ids w/out their bags on'? they could just be 'the usual suspects' just to get the good guys off their backs....
I don't recall seeing a grassy knoll in the background, but what the heck.
CNN announcing two were released, two detained in their breaking news headline on the web page.
Can anyone guess why nobody confirmed these captures when the story first broke? Why did it take 4 days?
Me too, but there are alot of people that don't "see" the left wing bias in the news. Our only hope is to increase the non-traditional news sources so people eventually stumble upon the truth.
Might we not expect that they had a little "massaging" over the past week.
Torture as in placing panties on their heads and placing them in a pyramid? Noooooo! That would be inhumane and cruel. I am wringing my hands just thinking about it!
Maybe waiting for the resupply of woman's panities and film ?
LOL
Kimmitt says 4 detained, then 2 released, 2 being questioned.
No way! That would mean that there was a connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam and we all know that there is no connection.
</end sarcasm>
Rush has talked about how Giuliani draws an analogy between the terrorist network and the five Mob families that he fought in NY. Giuliani said that you cannot fight just one family because the other four would pick up their spoils and become stronger. You have to fight them all at the same time.
The MSM will not tell the truth because then, oh no, Bush would be right! Reminds me when Fonzie had trouble saying wrong.
I was wrrrrrr
I was wroooon
I was wronnng
Bush was rrrrr
Bush was riii
Bush was riiiigghhhttt - God, that was hard.
Two Held Over Berg Beheading in Iraq - U.S. Military
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S.-led forces in Iraq are holding two people suspected of possible involvement in the kidnap and beheading of American Nicholas Berg earlier this month, the U.S. military said on Friday.
Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, a spokesman for the forces, told a news conference four people had been detained in a raid in Baghdad two days ago and two had subsequently been released. Of the other two, he said: "We may find out that they have no association with the murder."
That's exactly the right analogy. The Mob.
I guess being a native New Yorker allows me to grasp the concept a little easier.
Agree Coop the first story was right.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Iraqi police have arrested four people in the killing of American Nicholas Berg and believe a nephew of Saddam Hussein was involved in Berg’s beheading, an Iraqi security official said Friday.
The suspects were former members of Saddam Hussein’s Fedayeen paramilitary organization, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. They were May 14 in a house in Salaheddin province, north of Baghdad. The province includes Tikrit, Saddam’s hometown.
The group that was involved in the killing of Berg was led by Yasser al-Sabawi, a nephew of Saddam Hussein, the security official said. He said American intelligence had asked Iraqi authorities to hand over the suspects, but they were still in Iraqi hands.
Al-Sabawi was not among those arrested, the Iraqi official said.
Who cares. Even if it is legit they'll have a trial with the NYT, LAE, Washington Dishrag, along with all the unwatched networks crying over a "fair trial" which will probably happen with the ultimate penalty being the killing of their wives or sisters as the penalties.
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