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Kopel: Air America: the good and the bad
Rocky Mountain News ^ | May 22, 2004 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 05/22/2004 10:36:00 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Kopel: Air America: the good and the bad

'O'Franken Factor' rivals best right-wing programs, but 'Rhodes Show' is awful

May 22, 2004

You can't listen to the new left-wing talk radio network Air America on the air in Colorado yet. But people who have Internet access can tune it in at www.airameri caradio.com. Is it worth doing so? I would say yes.

The network's flagship program is The O'Franken Factor, co-hosted by comedian Al Franken and Katherine Lanpher (10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Colorado time, weekdays). The two make a good team and, overall, the show is about equal in quality to many of the syndicated right-wing talk programs, such as the Sean Hannity or Michael Medved programs.

Right-wingers sometimes ask, "Why does the left need a talk radio show? They've already got NPR, The New York Times, CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN." Well, it is true that all of those news outlets (and much of the news staffs at both The Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News) tilt left. However, the need to maintain a veneer of impartiality usually prevents direct ideological instruction.

Freed from the pretense of impartiality, talk radio hosts (like newspaper columnists) provide the audience new frames for understanding the news. The best columnists and hosts do not just talk about the events of the day, but advance the story.

Like Rush Limbaugh, Franken is unabashedly ideological but brings enough new information to his program so as to be persuasive to some moderates, and worthwhile listening even for ideological opponents.

Unfortunately, Franken is followed by four hours of The Randi Rhodes Show. A good radio host knows much more than the average caller, but Rhodes does not. Last Monday, for example, several callers raised issues (including Colorado Springs Bishop Michael Sheridan's controversial voter instruction letter), about which Rhodes had no idea. Like KHOW 630 host Scott Redmond on a bad day, Rhodes had a single idea (Donald Rumsfeld is responsible for Abu Ghraib) which she vainly tried to stretch into a full program.

On the radio, hyperbole and invective usually succeed only if they're funny - as they sometimes are on Franken and Limbaugh. With Rhodes, however, all you get is the same kind of flat pronouncements you could hear from a seventh-grader in Boulder: George Bush is "deaf, dumb and blind" and "stupid" and "an idiot" and people who vote for Bush are "morons" and "pathological."

For someone with such a smug sense of intellectual superiority, Rhodes is remarkably ignorant. Monday, for example, brought the bizarre claim that United States bombed Dresden after the Germans had surrendered in World War II. Actually, the bombing was three months before the Germans surrendered.

In the Rhodes early afternoon time slot, Colorado listeners who want leftist radio would do much better to tune in Enid Goldstein on KNRC 1150-AM. Goldstein's not good enough to be a national host, but neither is Rhodes, and Goldstein has a better voice. Goldstein brings the advantage of doing Colorado stories. Moreover, Goldstein provides very good coverage of the performing arts in Colorado, and frequent interviews with local artists and critics.

The Colorado legislature recently lowered the legal standard for "driving under the influence." The new standard for DUI is a blood-alcohol content level of at least .08 percent (down from the previous level of .10 percent). The standard for the lesser crime of "driving while impaired" remains at .05 percent. On May 11, the News presented a pair of charts that purported to explain "The new DUI law and you." The charts, however, were almost entirely wrong.

The charts showed the approximate blood-alcohol percentage of men and women of various weights who consume various numbers of drinks. Some boxes were shaded to show when a person is "Legally intoxicated." For example, a 220-pound male who has six drinks within 40 minutes, would have a BAC of .10, and be legally intoxicated. The chart, however, misinformed readers about the new Colorado law. According to the chart, persons with a BAC of .08 or .09 (e.g., a 120-pound man who has three drinks) were not "legally intoxicated." Thus, the chart was precisely wrong on the effect of "The new DUI law."

Other boxes on the chart were shaded to indicate "Driving skills significantly affected. Possible criminal penalties." The proper boxes for this shading would have been BAC of .05, .06, or .07 - which is below the legal limit for intoxication, but which still constitutes the crime of "driving while impaired." The News chart, however, wrongly claimed that a BAC of .04 was illegal. Bizarrely, the News declared that a BAC of .03 (which is always legal for adults in Colorado) was illegal for some people (a 240-pound man with two drinks) but legal for some other people (such as a 140-pound woman with one drink).

The News compounded the false charts by shading all levels for zero drinks (.00 BAC) to declare them the "Only safe driving limit." Certainly this is the position of alcohol prohibition advocates; the Colorado legislature, however, does not take this extremist view, and the extremist view had no business appearing in a chart which purported to describe Colorado's laws.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airamerica; alfranken; franken; liberaltalkradio; randirhodes; rhodes; talkradio
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To: isthisnickcool
They see every glass as half full.

Actually, they see every glass as 90% empty, with the republicans having taken all the good stuff out and replaced it with warm spit.

I was glad for the article if only because the reviewer had to listen to Air America and I didn't. Also, I got a kick out of the idea that Air America's best show is "almost as good as Michael Medved", like that's some kind of impossibly high standard.

I thought it was weird that Randi Rhodes would spend so much time yammering on about the bombing of Dresden. It begs the question- what other Franklin Deleano Roosevelt policies does she have a sharp disagreement with? If they actually had discussions on that network, it might make for an interesting conversation.

21 posted on 05/22/2004 11:22:57 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Now, now, Al will do just fine. All he needs is a conceptual make-over.

Perhaps a new name. Hmmmm, how about the "O'Tankin' Factor"? No? Maybe the "O'Oh Factor"?

You see, rather than present himself as merely an imitator of successful guys like O'Reilly and Limbaugh, he needs to start from where he already is: oblivious, abrasive, sophomoric, whiney and lame. If he would just be himself, I firmly believe he will make all other liberals look terrific by comparison.

22 posted on 05/22/2004 11:26:25 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
"As I understand it, the corporate sponsors were buying time on the stations, not neccessarily as an ideological support for the programming. "

That's what thier reply to me stated. But when 100% of a station's programming is anti-Bush, it doesn't matter what time slot the station chooses to run your ads, it's always going to be during an anti-Bush program.

23 posted on 05/22/2004 11:30:16 PM PDT by bayourod (Gay weddings will provoke Muslim terrorist attacks , but the press will blame the war on terrorism.)
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To: bayourod

Right. But when they were buying the time on the station, it might have been a Caribbean swing music station or something.

I'd also heard that some of the commercials are run for free, just to give the illusion that there are actually paid sponsors.

After Air America collapses, I hope someone writes a comprehensive analysis of it from a business standpoint. This could be a textbook case of what not to do which could be taught in business schools for the next 200 years.


24 posted on 05/22/2004 11:37:30 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
After Air America collapses, I hope someone writes a comprehensive analysis of it from a business standpoint. This could be a textbook case of what not to do which could be taught in business schools for the next 200 years.

The collapse may be sufficiently simple as to not warrant a comprehensive analysis: Large amounts of low-quality supply in the face of little or no demand.
25 posted on 05/23/2004 1:06:28 AM PDT by pt17
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Air America is dying as it should. Who needs it when the left controls the media as a block in the U.S. There just isn't a need for leftist socialist radio. Nobody listens. NPR wouldn't be on the air if the government didn't finance it. PBS would go belly up as well. As for it's better programming, I'd survive.

What's amazing to me is that Kopel is still on the air. I haven't had the stomach to watch him for at least five years. Who watches his borchst anyway?

From Catie Courick in the a.m. until Kopel and the late night hosts in the P.M. and early A.M., it's leftist central throughout. How much of that cr_p can you watch in 24 hours? At some point it must get repetitive even for a card carrying socialist.


26 posted on 05/23/2004 1:11:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: isthisnickcool
Air America has the same problem John Kerry has. They see every glass as half full.

That's the classic definition of an optimist. I believe that Franken and his minions are pessimists (the "half-empty glass" mob).

27 posted on 05/23/2004 2:29:26 AM PDT by woofer
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
"However, the need to maintain a veneer of impartiality usually prevents direct ideological instruction."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

28 posted on 05/23/2004 2:33:32 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
"the need to maintain a veneer of impartiality usually prevents direct ideological instruction."

Translation: "The need to be dishonest ..."
29 posted on 05/23/2004 2:55:56 AM PDT by Beckwith
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To: Bonaparte

"I firmly believe he will make all other liberals look terrific by comparison."

Uh, isn't that the LAST thing we want?


30 posted on 05/23/2004 3:08:27 AM PDT by aikido7 (aikido7)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Why does the left need a talk radio show? They've already got NPR, The New York Times, CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN." Well, it is true that all of those news outlets (and much of the news staffs at both The Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News) tilt left." - Quote of the Day

Yet why does Kopel not answer the question? Instead his response is a disingenuious. "However, the need to maintain a veneer of impartiality usually prevents direct ideological instruction." Here he mixes apples and oranges. He talks about news and then switches to news commentary.

So Mr. Kopel, please tell us, how do we know when YOU are reporting news and when you are offering commentary? Please give us a simple sign, so that we might be able to differentiate.
31 posted on 05/23/2004 3:25:33 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls - Proof that when the Main Stream Media wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: Smartass

Priceless!


32 posted on 05/23/2004 3:57:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: Smartass

33 posted on 05/23/2004 4:00:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: kylaka
Leftists don't much like individuals. All is one, one for all, and all that stuff.

My kids are all grown now but one thing that really bugged me (and them) during middle and high school was that everything had to be a group project. Which usually ended up meaning my kids did most of the work and the slackers in the group got the same grade (or sometimes better, go figure.) I wish, now that I'm more in the know with all the cr*pola, I'd raised more of a stink with the teachers.

34 posted on 05/23/2004 4:25:36 AM PDT by Lacey
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Huh! I've listened to several episodes of Franken's show, and, lo, it is bad! That's not just righty wishful thinking, either.

Mostly it's just boring. Often embarrassing, like when they step on each other's lines. The offensive parts aren't necessarily political - for example, they do a regular bit where she reads the headlines and Franken exclaims "Oy!" after each one, a pointless exercise in schtick.

Weirdly, I'm guessing it offends its own partisans by its lack of fire and brimstone. I expected to be angered, but Franken doesn't make his points strongly or well. One of the weirdest things they do is talk on the phone to an old friend of Franken's who's a Limbaugh listener. They try to grill him about things Limbaugh said that day, but he usually ends up explaining the points back at them calmly and politely and (I would think that, wouldn't I?) scores more points. It's all bizarrely cordial.

I'm surprised you don't see lefties complaining more. Perhaps they aren't listening.

35 posted on 05/23/2004 4:34:19 AM PDT by prion
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Franken is unabashedly ideological but brings enough new information to his program so as to be persuasive to some moderates.

Did he really mean "persuasive to moderates" or "the moderately insane"?

36 posted on 05/23/2004 4:37:20 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Smartass
If I had the software to do GIFs, this would be great with
Al Franken(stein)'s face in it.


Michael Moore would be another good one ! hehe!


37 posted on 05/23/2004 4:53:19 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Nonstatist
the need to maintain a veneer of impartiality usually prevents direct ideological instruction.

SO what? Ideological propaganda is still propaganda, in bucketfuls. Gobs and gobs of it; in over 150 newspapers in the country and ubiquitously over the airwaves.

Ramesh Ponnuru points out in Why They Hate Him [Bush] that "The pretense to objectivity of an NPR may seem laughably or infuriatingly false to us conservatives. But that pretense imposes real constraints on the media. The liberalism has to be kept implicit. Dan Rather may be more effective than, say, Michael Moore in getting Americans without deep political convictions to absorb liberalism. But for the very reason he is more effective, he is less emotionally satisfying to liberals [emphasis added]."

38 posted on 05/23/2004 4:55:53 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Caipirabob

Wow. That guy with all the rings stuck in his head, must love it when lightning hits close by...like ON HIS HEAD! Yeeeeooow!


39 posted on 05/23/2004 5:12:29 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: DoughtyOne

Dave Kopel is a leftist??? I think he's fought a Supreme Court case in favor of the Second Amendment. I'm a little fuzzy here, I may be thinking of Stephen Halbrook. I do know that Dave Kopel works at the Independence Insititute in Colorado, and regularly writes pro-2A articles. If he's a leftist, he's my kind of leftist. Unless, of course, he's a different Dave Kopel.


40 posted on 05/23/2004 5:13:11 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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