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Christians look to form 'new nation' within U.S.
World Net Daily ^
| 4/24/04
| Joe Kovacs
Posted on 05/23/2004 11:54:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: BSunday; Rytwyng; All
Corrections to post #215:
1) I meant to type "Saturday Sabbath.
2) the correct spelling of "hermenuetic" is "hermeneutic". (I don't usually make too big a deal about typos since I make quite a few when I type and post fast, but the word "hermeneutic" is an important one).
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posted on
05/27/2004 1:50:30 AM PDT
by
tame
(Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
To: Diddle E. Squat
Nope. Lambert, Montana. The weather is as bad as North Dakota, the prairie provides the scenery, and there are few of the customary diversions. The big lunch spot is the local bar and grille. Winter sessions, of course.
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posted on
05/27/2004 1:53:45 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(I can neither confirm nor deny this tagline.)
To: MarMema; Rytwyng; BSunday; All
Nobody is going around exterminating ChristiansNo, we're just engaged in mass murder of unforn babies here in the U.S.--around 40 million since the Roe v Wade decision. That's all....just 40 million.
But I guess we're supposed to be better than those other governments that have murdered far less.
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posted on
05/27/2004 1:55:17 AM PDT
by
tame
(Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
To: Diddle E. Squat
Just take everything east of the western Continental Divide, and west of the Eastern one, from Hudson's Bay to the Bay of Campeche, call it America, and let the rest of it find a new name.
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posted on
05/27/2004 1:56:50 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(I can neither confirm nor deny this tagline.)
To: Shut up and take it
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posted on
05/27/2004 1:59:46 AM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(I can neither confirm nor deny this tagline.)
To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I've always been president of the United States of My House.
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posted on
05/27/2004 5:55:21 AM PDT
by
SquirrelKing
("I have to march because my mother could not have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D - California)
To: tame
He acted like we are making so much progress in the U.S so there's no need for a Christian nation.This is progress? I'd hate to see what he defined as regression.
What's happening in the U.S. is totally unacceptable to me. Yet what can I do about it? Elect new representatives? They have no power. Only the judiciary has power. We are stuck with them for the rest of their lives. They can legislate for us. They can raise our taxes. They can do anything they darn well please. Freedom is gone in America. There is a faux freedom left, one that says you can do what is right in your own eyes. But there is no real freedom as established by our founders. Representative government is dead. We can work through our representatives to get what we want only to have the courts knock it down. And it doesn't matter how old and firmly established the law. It's ridiculous. There is zero respect for the order handed down to us by earlier generations -- our parents and grandparents. The judges today are much "wiser" than anyone else who ever lived. We the people just have to sit back and take it. I'm tired of taking it.
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posted on
05/27/2004 8:03:51 AM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: risk
This is equally a secular issue as well as a religious one. Anyone who says that it's the issue of separating church from state that prevents us from dealing with it are part of that tyranny of the minority. Sorry to burst your secular bubble but the problem IS secularism. That fact that you even use a phrase like "separation of church and state" which is not in the Constitution just shows how well the libs have succeeded in framing the debate. To paraphrase Nixon: "We are all secularists now."
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:19:02 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: Arthur McGowan
If states did not secede over Roe v. Wade, they aren't going to do so over sodomite marriage. I consider gay marrige just the latest in a slew of offensive liberal agendas to cross my path. Whatever motivates Conservative Christians to unite is good.
As for America being a Christian nation that is unfortunately no longer true.
Roe v. Wade is just another brick in the wall.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:24:08 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It's not about a theocracy. It would still endorse freedom of religion. Theocracy doesn't scare me, it's just another liberal bugaboo like McCarthyism. I would narrow down freedom of religion to freedom of Christian denominations.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:28:35 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: Agent47
Illegal aliens=problem.
Blacks? I don't have a problem nor do I know any conservatives that DO have a problem with that.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:32:21 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: TradicalRC
I think there would be an assumption that that is mostly who we would attract. But I certainly would not make it illegal to be another religion, or no religion at all. I would never agree to that. That's what makes the Christian foundation of our nation so beautiful. We respect each other's religion and welcome the values and morals they all share. Freedom of religion is essential as originally defined, not as it is defined today.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:32:23 AM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: Neville72
As much as it has been claimed by some that the Civil War was fought over the issue of state's rights, the right they sought to preserve was the right to enslave other human beings. You need to learn your history better.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:37:33 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: olde north church
Bush 1, not closely aligned enough to "Moral Majority" + no new taxes pledge broken. The we're going to show him attitude gave us 8 years of fornication, tax increases a collapse in the moral imperative, gutting of national defense, and a decrease in national security. Oh, yeah, you also had 2 pro-abortion judges added to the Supreme Court not to mention other courts in the national system. Oh, that's the fault of Christians. Right. Bush 1 has NO ONE to blame for losing except himself. Read my lips.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:42:38 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: tame
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:52:34 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: Dada Orwell
Like all libertarians you do not understand the difference between freedom and license. Virtue is the best defense of Freedom, something that libertarians don't seem too keen on.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:55:07 AM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
We may be talking about a fine line here. Many different folks came to this country when it was an explicitly Christian nation. And while I understand the freedom of/from religion aspects of the debate, something needs to be stated explicitly from the gitgo so that Christianity does not come under attack from the new government.
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:00:32 PM PDT
by
TradicalRC
(In Heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here.)
To: TradicalRC
As a matter of law, no one should lose their liberty for the religious beliefs, or lack thereof. But neither should faith be pushed out of the public square. It the Christian faith of the majority is "uncomfortable" to someone, then they should seek to live elsewhere. Maybe they would feel more comfortable in the United States of Sodom and Gomorrah.
The point is to allow personal faith and morals to support freedom. We can never get there through coercion.
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:49:17 PM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; TradicalRC
I certainly would not make it illegal to be another religion, or no religion at all...Freedom of religion is essential as originally defined, not as it is defined today.I agree, but I would definitely support an amendment defining the Nation as specifically christian, based on the gospel of Jesus Christ, though not preferring on particular denomination above another.
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posted on
05/27/2004 5:22:01 PM PDT
by
tame
(Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Sounds like this nation will be as exciting as Branson Missouri. Its all yours, you can have it. I'll be in the fun country.
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