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Still Bush's race to lose
Real Clear Politics ^ | 5/24/2004 | John McIntyre

Posted on 05/24/2004 8:20:06 AM PDT by Keith

STILL BUSH'S RACE TO LOSE: Five or six weeks ago there was a flurry of stories describing how Democrats were terribly concerned about the state of the Kerry campaign.

Only three or four weeks before that we witnessed the crescendo of Kerry's primary run and there was a lot of talk about how the White House had to "get in the game" and "get serious" with the campaign.

The latest flurry of punditry, brought on by the string of bad news in Iraq over the last few weeks, is best summed up by the theme "President Bush is in big trouble."

Everyone needs to settle down. Republicans should take a deep breath and perhaps take an early Memorial Day vacation and Democrats who are rubbing their hands thinking they are headed for the White House might want to temper their enthusiasm. President Bush is not nearly in as bad of shape as you would think from reading the papers or listening to the punditry on TV.

Yes, I know all about the falling job approval numbers, the right/track wrong/track polls, and about how no modern day President has won reelection with approval ratings below 50%. Lost in all the focus on particular polling, however, is an underappreciation of the significance of September 11, 2001 and the fact that America is at war.

I have said for months now that the more the country is focused on terror, Iraq and war the more it will ultimately benefit President Bush in the fall. While the media continues its gleeful self-flagellation over the prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, the rest of the country has moved on in understanding the seriousness of the war and the context of the prisoner abuse in the larger scheme of things.

In many ways this election will be about whether the war in Iraq is more like World War II or Vietnam. Can you imagine hearing endless rants of defeatism in 1942: Why are are we in North Africa? Doesn't Roosevelt know it was the Japanese who attacked us in 1941? Can you imagine story after story on how we were abusing and humiliating poor Japanese and German prisoners?

Yet today all we hear from the mainstream media outlets is negative story after negative story. In an excellent article last week Mort Kondracke suggests that Congress and the media could talk the U.S. into defeat in Iraq:

The American establishment, led by the media and politicians, is in danger of talking the United States into defeat in Iraq. And the results would be catastrophic.

The media - unperturbed by mistakenly likening both the Afghan war and last year's invasion of Iraq to Vietnam - focuses overwhelmingly on the bad news coming out of Iraq. There is plenty of bad news - but there is also much good, and it is being almost completely ignored.

Some Members of Congress - either out of a passion to defeat President Bush, pique at not being listened to by the Bush administration, or simply a need to hear their own voices - are declaring the war "unwinnable" or "a quagmire," or are demanding an "exit strategy."

Although everyone says they support American troops in Iraq, soldiers have to wonder whether the country is fully behind their mission. Iraqis, too, have to be wondering: Will America stay the course?

President Bush surely will. He strikes me as being as resolute as George Washington was at Valley Forge, Abraham Lincoln after the early defeats of the Civil War, and Franklin Roosevelt in the darkest days of World War II. They didn't have "exit strategies," either. "

We are at war and right now the war is not going very well. That is why the President's poll numbers are down. It's that simple.

What is not that simple, however, is taking the next step and assuming because the President's job approval is down John Kerry is going to win.

Eighty percent of the press may feel Iraq is more like Vietnam than WWII, but I get the feeling the majority of the American people aren't willing to concede that Iraq is another Vietnam.

And as long as America sees Iraq more like WWII and less like Vietnam, they won't want a President who just wants to get us out, they'll want a President who is willing to do what is necessary to win. It's going to be the number one factor in determining who wins the election this fall: which candidate is the best man to win the War on Terror?

President Bush is not hostage to events in Iraq and around the world as much as people think. The country is a lot tougher than the talking heads on TV and the prophets of doom in the press. Contrary to popular wisdom, events can get worse in Iraq and the country will hang in there as long as they believe there is a plan and a commitment to win. All President Bush has to do is show the same leadership he has shown since September 11th.

The President's biggest problem isn't Abu Ghraib or Al Sadr or Fallujah. His biggest problem - and the thing that most concerns the American public - is that for the last few weeks the White House has acted like it doesn't have a plan and doesn't know what it is doing.

I'm sympathetic to the difficulties in Iraq and I realize there are no easy answers. But the American people want more than just "stay the course" from the President. Unfortunately not only is the White House fighting the enemy in Iraq they are also constantly having to battle the forces of defeatism here at home.

The reason this race is still President Bush's to lose is because he is in control of whether he will show that leadership. I suspect he will. Amazingly, his opponents are once again "misunderestimating" him.

You would think after beating an incumbent Vice-President during a time of peace and prosperity and then personally carrying his party to an unprecedented victory in 2002, the prophets of George W. Bush's demise would be a little more circumspect in their predictions.

This is going to be a long 5 1/2 months until Nov. 2 and there are going to be many pendulum swings in the polls. Given the relatively even partisan split in the country we are probably headed for another close election. But I have news for all those cheering the President's current problems; George W. Bush is no Jimmy Carter. If there is going be a blow out this year, it's going to be the Democrats holding the short end of that stick.


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To: Common Tator

Just sayin' we had bombed Japan....


21 posted on 05/24/2004 10:51:34 AM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: Keith
And, for a contrary opinion:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1141208/posts

22 posted on 05/24/2004 10:53:26 AM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: Common Tator
Dolittle's Raiders brought the fight to the enemy. The Japanese though damaged little by the attack were shocked that we could actually bomb them from so far away. It was also a huge propaganda weapon and good for moral at home. These men were heros. They volunteered for a mission that was very risky to strike back at the enemy. That is war, you fight back, no matter what. Every time I see a B-25 I think of these brave men. Thank god this country still has people like Dolittles raiders. http://www.doolittleraider.com/

Hail to the King Baby. (click me)

23 posted on 05/24/2004 11:05:19 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: CWOJackson
I think a lot of people missed that part.

We haven't "missed" anything, thanks. We've read it; weighed it against other factors; and found it seriously wanting, ultimately.

Big difference.

24 posted on 05/24/2004 11:45:38 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes, compared to the doom and gloom it sure isn't as dramatic.


25 posted on 05/24/2004 11:47:50 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, compared to the doom and gloom it sure isn't as dramatic.

I think it's great -- seriously; wonderful -- that there are those hereabouts who (manifestly) feel comfortable in a cheerleader's pleated skirt, waving pom-poms.

It frees up the rest of us for the pursuit of more sober, realistic approaches and measures.

(Apparent) news flash: it's actually possible to express considered, realistic concern over -- oh, let's say -- plummeting approval and re-elect numbers, without being "doom and gloom" in doing so. Just as it is equally possible -- or, at least, should be possible -- to counsel cheerfulness, without being a simp about it.

26 posted on 05/24/2004 12:01:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes, it is so much more fun to run around the deck screaming the ship is sinking...when it hasn't even left the pier. Kind of like arobics I guess for some.


27 posted on 05/24/2004 12:05:27 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Just as it is equally possible -- or, at least, should be possible -- to counsel cheerfulness, without being a simp about it.

Yes, it is so much more fun to run around the deck screaming the ship is sinking...when it hasn't even left the pier. Kind of like arobics I guess for some.

How distressing that I overestimated, in this instance.

28 posted on 05/24/2004 12:10:53 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Don't be so hard on yourself...it appears you enjoy over estimating things.


29 posted on 05/24/2004 12:12:41 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Don't be so hard on yourself...it appears you enjoy over estimating things.

One really couldn't ask for any better example of why, precisely we're in trouble (at least in part): idiotic sniping at fellow Bush supporters, apparently for not being sufficiently schoolgirl giggly over poll numbers dropping farther and faster than a paralyzed falcon.

Whatever. Waste your energies against your fellow conservatives, if that's where you feel they're best expended. I can understand the impulse, certainly, to lash out in the face of bad news.

Again, however: there are probably more effective means of ensuring the defeat of liberalism in '04 (I devoutly hope and pray) than firing idiotically upon your fellow soldiers. Your mileage may vary, however, I'm sure.

30 posted on 05/24/2004 12:28:09 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Wow...you really are from Seattle. Only a Seattlite would talk like that. Which I guess explains why Seattle is such a conservative bastion.
31 posted on 05/24/2004 12:29:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Again, however: there are probably more effective means of ensuring the defeat of liberalism in '04 (I devoutly hope and pray) than firing idiotically upon your fellow soldiers. Your mileage may vary, however, I'm sure.

Wow...you really are from Seattle. Only a Seattlite would talk like that.

Point proven. Thank you.

32 posted on 05/24/2004 12:32:41 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Keith

There's no question that it's still President Bush's to lose. In fact, if I were in his shoes I'd 'arrange' for Kerry to get more exposure because Kerry begins to do somewhat better, and I emphasize the somewhat, when he remains out of the picture. As soon as he's front and center President Bush's numbers go up. It's really amazing that the President's numbers aren't lower considering the onslaught of negative press he's been getting these last few months. I think he'll win relection. The only thing I think he has to worry about is McCain getting on Kerry's ticket.


33 posted on 05/24/2004 12:35:16 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("E meglio lavorare con qui non ti paga, e no ha parlare con qui non ti capisce!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes, another Seattle point proven...yawn. I sure do hope you don't wear yourself out before the actual election. There are bound to be a couple of more polls between now and November to panic over.


34 posted on 05/24/2004 12:36:25 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
I sure do hope you don't wear yourself out before the actual election.

Oh, I daresay you have the more tiring agenda, between the two of us. After all: you've taken on the all-important task of ensuring GWB's re-election by...

... ummmmmmm...

... by... ahhh... badmouthing other conservative posters, online.

Well... I'm certain it must all sound terribly grown-up and important and sensible while you're thinking about it, anyway.

I fervantly hope I am wrong, and GWB sweeps all fifty states. Presumably, your own brilliant master plan for helping to achieve said goal involves something more, ultimately, than simply being this ridiculous all the way between now and November.

Have the last word, if you genuinely feel it necessary.

35 posted on 05/24/2004 12:46:57 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It's not necessary at all...just like your panic. You might want to start passing Starbucks by more often.


36 posted on 05/24/2004 12:52:27 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: KC_Conspirator

"I find his numbers freefall troubling too and when I point it out, I get attacked here. Ridiculous"

Forget all the numbers. If you want to watch any of them, watch the head to head numbers. Everything else is a distant second.


37 posted on 05/24/2004 1:09:26 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: Charlotte Corday
Hmmm. Flawed logic: consider that IF Nixon had not been handicapped by Watergate, he wouldn't have resigned. If he didn't resign, no cut-off of U.S. support of S Vietnam. We win.

Watergate killed the south Vietnamese as surely as did the Dems' betrayal and the Commies' aggression. In wishing to blame Vietnam on LBJ, never forget that Nixon had that war WON, and that his own corruption, and the Dems' hatred of him, snapped defeat out of the jaws of victory.

38 posted on 05/24/2004 2:00:02 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Common Tator; Poohbah; section9; Pukin Dog; Long Cut; Howlin; veronica

Not quite... the Doolittle raid DID panic their General Staff into approving Operation MI to secure a better defense perimeter. They REACTED to the Doolittle raid.

So, the IJN carried out Operation MI... and proceeded to make the reputation of one Raymond Ames Spruance. The Doolittle raid's ultimate result was that the Americans, albeit unintentionally, lured the Japanese Navy into the Battle of Midway.


40 posted on 05/26/2004 1:53:54 PM PDT by hchutch ("Go ahead. Leave early and beat the traffic. The Milwaukee Brewers dare you." - MLB.com 5/11/04)
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