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Still Bush's race to lose
Real Clear Politics ^ | 5/24/2004 | John McIntyre

Posted on 05/24/2004 8:20:06 AM PDT by Keith

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To: Common Tator

Just sayin' we had bombed Japan....


21 posted on 05/24/2004 10:51:34 AM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: Keith
And, for a contrary opinion:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1141208/posts

22 posted on 05/24/2004 10:53:26 AM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: Common Tator
Dolittle's Raiders brought the fight to the enemy. The Japanese though damaged little by the attack were shocked that we could actually bomb them from so far away. It was also a huge propaganda weapon and good for moral at home. These men were heros. They volunteered for a mission that was very risky to strike back at the enemy. That is war, you fight back, no matter what. Every time I see a B-25 I think of these brave men. Thank god this country still has people like Dolittles raiders. http://www.doolittleraider.com/

Hail to the King Baby. (click me)

23 posted on 05/24/2004 11:05:19 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: CWOJackson
I think a lot of people missed that part.

We haven't "missed" anything, thanks. We've read it; weighed it against other factors; and found it seriously wanting, ultimately.

Big difference.

24 posted on 05/24/2004 11:45:38 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes, compared to the doom and gloom it sure isn't as dramatic.


25 posted on 05/24/2004 11:47:50 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, compared to the doom and gloom it sure isn't as dramatic.

I think it's great -- seriously; wonderful -- that there are those hereabouts who (manifestly) feel comfortable in a cheerleader's pleated skirt, waving pom-poms.

It frees up the rest of us for the pursuit of more sober, realistic approaches and measures.

(Apparent) news flash: it's actually possible to express considered, realistic concern over -- oh, let's say -- plummeting approval and re-elect numbers, without being "doom and gloom" in doing so. Just as it is equally possible -- or, at least, should be possible -- to counsel cheerfulness, without being a simp about it.

26 posted on 05/24/2004 12:01:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes, it is so much more fun to run around the deck screaming the ship is sinking...when it hasn't even left the pier. Kind of like arobics I guess for some.


27 posted on 05/24/2004 12:05:27 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Just as it is equally possible -- or, at least, should be possible -- to counsel cheerfulness, without being a simp about it.

Yes, it is so much more fun to run around the deck screaming the ship is sinking...when it hasn't even left the pier. Kind of like arobics I guess for some.

How distressing that I overestimated, in this instance.

28 posted on 05/24/2004 12:10:53 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Don't be so hard on yourself...it appears you enjoy over estimating things.


29 posted on 05/24/2004 12:12:41 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Don't be so hard on yourself...it appears you enjoy over estimating things.

One really couldn't ask for any better example of why, precisely we're in trouble (at least in part): idiotic sniping at fellow Bush supporters, apparently for not being sufficiently schoolgirl giggly over poll numbers dropping farther and faster than a paralyzed falcon.

Whatever. Waste your energies against your fellow conservatives, if that's where you feel they're best expended. I can understand the impulse, certainly, to lash out in the face of bad news.

Again, however: there are probably more effective means of ensuring the defeat of liberalism in '04 (I devoutly hope and pray) than firing idiotically upon your fellow soldiers. Your mileage may vary, however, I'm sure.

30 posted on 05/24/2004 12:28:09 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Wow...you really are from Seattle. Only a Seattlite would talk like that. Which I guess explains why Seattle is such a conservative bastion.
31 posted on 05/24/2004 12:29:48 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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Again, however: there are probably more effective means of ensuring the defeat of liberalism in '04 (I devoutly hope and pray) than firing idiotically upon your fellow soldiers. Your mileage may vary, however, I'm sure.

Wow...you really are from Seattle. Only a Seattlite would talk like that.

Point proven. Thank you.

32 posted on 05/24/2004 12:32:41 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Keith

There's no question that it's still President Bush's to lose. In fact, if I were in his shoes I'd 'arrange' for Kerry to get more exposure because Kerry begins to do somewhat better, and I emphasize the somewhat, when he remains out of the picture. As soon as he's front and center President Bush's numbers go up. It's really amazing that the President's numbers aren't lower considering the onslaught of negative press he's been getting these last few months. I think he'll win relection. The only thing I think he has to worry about is McCain getting on Kerry's ticket.


33 posted on 05/24/2004 12:35:16 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("E meglio lavorare con qui non ti paga, e no ha parlare con qui non ti capisce!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yes, another Seattle point proven...yawn. I sure do hope you don't wear yourself out before the actual election. There are bound to be a couple of more polls between now and November to panic over.


34 posted on 05/24/2004 12:36:25 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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I sure do hope you don't wear yourself out before the actual election.

Oh, I daresay you have the more tiring agenda, between the two of us. After all: you've taken on the all-important task of ensuring GWB's re-election by...

... ummmmmmm...

... by... ahhh... badmouthing other conservative posters, online.

Well... I'm certain it must all sound terribly grown-up and important and sensible while you're thinking about it, anyway.

I fervantly hope I am wrong, and GWB sweeps all fifty states. Presumably, your own brilliant master plan for helping to achieve said goal involves something more, ultimately, than simply being this ridiculous all the way between now and November.

Have the last word, if you genuinely feel it necessary.

35 posted on 05/24/2004 12:46:57 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It's not necessary at all...just like your panic. You might want to start passing Starbucks by more often.


36 posted on 05/24/2004 12:52:27 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: KC_Conspirator

"I find his numbers freefall troubling too and when I point it out, I get attacked here. Ridiculous"

Forget all the numbers. If you want to watch any of them, watch the head to head numbers. Everything else is a distant second.


37 posted on 05/24/2004 1:09:26 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: Charlotte Corday
Hmmm. Flawed logic: consider that IF Nixon had not been handicapped by Watergate, he wouldn't have resigned. If he didn't resign, no cut-off of U.S. support of S Vietnam. We win.

Watergate killed the south Vietnamese as surely as did the Dems' betrayal and the Commies' aggression. In wishing to blame Vietnam on LBJ, never forget that Nixon had that war WON, and that his own corruption, and the Dems' hatred of him, snapped defeat out of the jaws of victory.

38 posted on 05/24/2004 2:00:02 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Common Tator; Poohbah; section9; Pukin Dog; Long Cut; Howlin; veronica

Not quite... the Doolittle raid DID panic their General Staff into approving Operation MI to secure a better defense perimeter. They REACTED to the Doolittle raid.

So, the IJN carried out Operation MI... and proceeded to make the reputation of one Raymond Ames Spruance. The Doolittle raid's ultimate result was that the Americans, albeit unintentionally, lured the Japanese Navy into the Battle of Midway.


40 posted on 05/26/2004 1:53:54 PM PDT by hchutch ("Go ahead. Leave early and beat the traffic. The Milwaukee Brewers dare you." - MLB.com 5/11/04)
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