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Student shoplifting surge hits U Store (Princeton)
Trenton Times ^ | Sunday, May 23, 2004 | KEVIN SHEA

Posted on 05/24/2004 8:23:47 AM PDT by shhrubbery!

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

PRINCETON BOROUGH - To the Princeton University Store, a surge in shoplifting arrests during the past few months is the result of a business move: a new, cutting-edge surveillance camera system.

To the police, the dozen arrests they've made at the campus shop are the product of good investigative work by highly motivated security officers.


(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: collegestudents; eliteschools; ethics; ivyleague; morality; petersinger; princeton; relativism; shoplifting
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Did a search using terms 'Princeton' and 'shoplifting' but couldn't find this posted yet.

Newsday posted a similar piece that was rewritten by the AP, but that article had some interesting details edited out.

1 posted on 05/24/2004 8:23:49 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: shhrubbery!

What else should one expect when the university is engaged full-time in training good little leftists who know instinctively that rules don't apply to them?


2 posted on 05/24/2004 8:31:10 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Any "church" that can't figure out abortion and homosexuality isn't worthy of the appellation)
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Most of the cases, he said, have yet to be decided because many have retained lawyers, which delays the initial appearance.

Doesn't that just say it all.

3 posted on 05/24/2004 8:35:16 AM PDT by balrog666 (So many idiots, so few comets...)
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To: shhrubbery!

You wouldn't find this at Yale! </sarcasm>


4 posted on 05/24/2004 8:40:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: shhrubbery!

"I was on probation already and this on top of that, my housing (is in jeopardy) and they're talking about suspending me."



Just a fluke. Right. He's already on probation.

Are they short of transfer student applicants? Have they not heard of expulsion?


5 posted on 05/24/2004 8:42:59 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: thoughtomator

But the burning question is - will they offer FISTING 101 this fall?


6 posted on 05/24/2004 8:43:36 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: thoughtomator
What else should one expect when the university is engaged full-time in training good little leftists who know instinctively that rules don't apply to them?

And even if they didn't arrive at Princeton with that instinct, they'll get taught by Princeton 'ethics' professor Peter Singer that traditional notions of good and evil are just ... not nuanced enough for elitist sophisticates.

7 posted on 05/24/2004 8:43:38 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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"I am troubled by the, `I didn't know,' the `I'm sorry - I used poor judgment' responses," Citron said.

You can't fault the students for practicing their skills as future political leaders of this country.

8 posted on 05/24/2004 8:49:06 AM PDT by Erasmus
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To: shhrubbery!

This article says more about the state of this nation than hundreds of others published by "reputable" journals.


9 posted on 05/24/2004 8:49:57 AM PDT by I still care
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The 20-year-old from Ohio was arrested April 2 for allegedly stealing magazines worth $15.44.

Cochran said he was not shoplifting, but putting items he intended to buy in a crate and mistakenly left the store with the crate. He said the magazines were clip art for the campus magazine BAMN! he publishes and that the university reimburses him for costs.

"I had no incentive to steal these magazines," Cochran said. He plans to fight the charges. But what really upset Cochran, he said, was that during his arrest the police found a fake Ohio driver's license in his wallet.

He was charged with possession of a fictitious driver's license, a felony. "I was on probation already and this on top of that, my housing (is in jeopardy) and they're talking about suspending me."

Ladies and gentlemen: the Democratic nominee for the office of the presidency, in 2024.

10 posted on 05/24/2004 8:55:56 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: shhrubbery!

Each sentence is a judgement on today's society. There is a month's worth of commentary here.

Check out these:
"Nobody wants to think that a Princeton University student, a future secretary of state . . . would dare to commit a shoplifting."

`I didn't know,' the `I'm sorry - I used poor judgment' responses"

"You don't get it, what did your parents teach you? We're talking about a value system here. Thou shall not steal."

"They are young adults, the top 1 percent of the U.S. population, academically and sociologically."

"Most of the cases, he said, have yet to be decided because many have retained lawyers"

"What troubles me is that some of the students feel that they are so privileged, that they have the privilege (to steal)."


11 posted on 05/24/2004 9:09:19 AM PDT by I still care
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Nobody wants to have a young person tarred with a criminal conviction for a mistake, Citron said.

That's exactly what these thieves are counting on.

12 posted on 05/24/2004 9:11:58 AM PDT by Physicist
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At the beginning of an interview recently, he said the only people he's heard of being arrested for shoplifting at the U Store were "townies." "I have never known a Princeton student to do so," he said.

But after a reporter read a double-digit list of students arrested recently, Margolin was a bit stunned. "I have definitely not heard anything about this," he said.

Later, Margolin said: "I think Princeton students are, for as smart as they are and as talented as they are, normal kids. . . . I guess some people make mistakes."

Arrogant little elitist, isn't he?

13 posted on 05/24/2004 9:12:10 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Another day, another DU troll.)
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To: I still care

Sadly, people on both ends of the economic spectrum who have things handed to them all their lives have a sense of entitlement. Those who have to work know the value of "things".


14 posted on 05/24/2004 9:14:06 AM PDT by WVNan (Be faithful in little things, for in them our strength lies. (Mother Teresa))
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Yep, I agree with you.

"What troubles me is that some of the students feel that they are so privileged, that they have the privilege (to steal)."

You could probably add to that: 'Earning something and paying for it is for 'little people'. And It's just a little bit of 'stuff' - 'everyone does it', what's the big deal?

Pretty scary that these kid's are considered to be in the top 1 percent.

15 posted on 05/24/2004 9:16:06 AM PDT by GaltMeister (This is not my tagline. My family has it. The tagline belongs to my family.)
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Notice that "I made poor choices" garbage that should excuse anything they do. Kids are taught that line in kindergarten now instead of learning that what they did was WRONG and should be punished.


16 posted on 05/24/2004 9:16:24 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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"I am troubled by the, `I didn't know,' the `I'm sorry - I used poor judgment' responses," Citron said.

Maybe they should try the, "I'm sorry if I offended anyone" so-called apology. That seems to be the norm these days.

Princeton students, Citron said, are not 14-year-olds acting out. "They are young adults, the top 1 percent of the U.S. population, academically and sociologically."

They do have good grades; they are lacking in morals or class.

The arrests, Citron said, have him asking, "You don't get it, what did your parents teach you? We're talking about a value system here. Thou shall not steal."

Words to live by. Where have I heard those before?

Nobody wants to have a young person tarred with a criminal conviction for a mistake, Citron said. "But I am seeing too many `mistakes' and I wonder how to stop it," Citron said. "It's a pattern."

Here's a novel idea: start holding students accountable for their actions.

Later, Margolin said: "I think Princeton students are, for as smart as they are and as talented as they are, normal kids. . . . I guess some people make mistakes."

"What troubles me is that some of the students feel that they are so privileged, that they have the privilege (to steal)."

I wonder where they could have gotten this notion.

17 posted on 05/24/2004 9:19:15 AM PDT by FoxInSocks
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"What a shame after all they've done to get into (Princeton University), the sacrifices they've made, and of their parents, to have a blob on your record,"

Steve McQueen! Pick up the white phone!

18 posted on 05/24/2004 9:48:05 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: shhrubbery!

I go to this store frequently. Its physical layout is extremely insecure. I'm not surprised there's a lot of shoplifting, though I'd expect it to be mostly "townies" -- the story just says 10 Princeton students were caught shoplifting, it doesn't say how many others were caught shoplifting.


19 posted on 05/24/2004 9:52:38 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: shhrubbery!

With undergraduate tuition at Princeton hovering around $30, 000 a year, there some question of who's stealing from whom.


20 posted on 05/24/2004 9:58:26 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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