Skip to comments.The Neoconservative Persuasion
Posted on 05/24/2004 4:42:38 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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"The business of America is business." - Calvin Coolidge.
"It's not personal. It's just business." - Don Vito Corleone
Are you under the impression that I actually care what you think?
My only interest in you is pointing out what a complete troll you are; I have no idea what party you belong to, but I do know that you're two things: 1) Not a conservative or a Republican and 2) doing the work of the people who hope to destroy this country.
When did I do that?
I've seen stats that 137 American Soldiers were KIA in April. Where is your source stating 174?
800 people have died in Iraq in 15 months.
It's not hundreds like you said.
How much is the freedom of your country -- presuming "your country" is the United States -- worth?
You don't seem to be too damn concerned with the 3,000 that died on 9-11; I wonder what nationality you really are.
No, I definitely am not under the impression that you care what I think. I'm under the impression that when someone -- even a Reaganite conservative like me -- disagrees with you, steam comes out of your ears and you have trouble caring about anything but your own anger.
When have you even known an American hater to be honest?
Bloomberg News Service (see post above). Maybe that Bloomberg report is wrong. Either way, the number is tragically high.
You're not disagreeing with me; to disagree with me, you have to have a point; so far, all I've seen you post is vitrolic disinformation.
It's too bad you don'yt list to Levin...his show is marvelous.
People that are afraid to discuss problems within the conservative movement have something to hide, IMHO.
If they're not willing to talk about ideologues that support things like "open borders", "rapid growth of gov't.", "outsourcing" and America as the "World's Policeman", then how do they expect those of us who feel weve been Neo-Conned to believe "Conservative Values" haven't been abandoned altogether and we have no one left to represent us?
A ship can only get so many holes in it before the bilge pumps fail...
April is Iraq's deadliest month
By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY
The deadliest month for U.S. troops in Iraq ended Friday with 137 servicemembers having lost their lives. The overwhelming majority of them were victims of hostile action such as gunfire, rocket attacks and explosions.
If you can spare the time,this thread and the person who posted it,could REALLY use your reply to this.
Stick together? Tell that to the family from my church that just lost their only breadwinner when the husband lost his job in construction due to the hiring of illegals.
This policy, that both the GOP and dems subscribe to, of helping others to the detrimete of our citizens has to stop.
The current situation in regards to illegals is wrong and, according to most polls, the vast majority of American's agree that it's wrong. If they where listining the would fix the problem (or in the past 45 minutes did we capture everyone on the planet that wishs to do the USA harm? Because those same people could sneak across our borders the same way all those illegals do).
Good night and God bless.
Actually I did find it compelling. It describes this neocon well. The piece was nuanced and well written, and to the point - and true.
I'll give you $5 if you never, ever use the word "nuanced" again. :-)
If Bloomberg is willing to inflate the total by 28%, I'd worry about the veracity of the rest of their information and analysis too.
Oh, well, it was a nice dream, anyways.
Pity you are taking fire for posting an excellent article. Of course, it is your posting history, rather than the article, that attacks the fire. Handle it as best you can. By the way, I don't myself agree with most of what you post. But there is no justification for trashing you personally. I dissent from that.
Can't argue with you about the Pew stinkers. I posted the article because it gave a casualty figure for april (which might be higher than the actual number, from what other posters are claiming), not to highlight the rest of the stuff in the article, including the smelly leftist group call "Pew."
Well, now that you asked, I guess the answer is none. Poor thing, he does so want to be "special" but as it turns out he is just garden variety.
Hey, your catching on!
OK, but it will cost you $20 to make me stop using "ersatz." :)
Just WHAT,by-the-by,is a "wall street salon"?
They hold BBQs on the main street,whnere YOU live?
Class warfare has NO place on FR;none!
Is that the only job in the county? Nobody else in the family can work?
Canadian, I think.
Churchillbuff is a CANADIAN? Oh, cripes.
Are you a Canadian citizen?
I didn't say that and your concern is touching. Where it not for illegal below market labor he would still have a job. I don't understand why so many religious people are so quick to throw their own people to the wolfs, simply for a little extra profit. Perhaps he will find more work, perhaps he and his wife will now have to work to make ends meat and if that happens she will no longer be there as much as she should to raise her kids. The last 30 years has shown that that is a BAD IDEA and is one of the leading factors in creating all these troubled kids we have these days.
But it did result in profit, so I guess it all balances out in the end.
OMG, is that true?
Why don't all you church-going people pool your resources, and fund your neighbor so he can start his own Construction company, hire American born locals at union wage, and compete for the building business against the obviously unskilled, unqualified immigrant competition? It should be a breeze. Shouldn't it?
Don't deny it; everybody here knows it's true.
You can't be serious. But in case you are, you should check yourself into a rubber room, if you really think anything this person posts would have any bearing on the outcome of an election.
Yes, I believe that to be correct. It came up in another thread not long ago. It was late and I didn't hang around long enough to see if he would fess up.
In short, focus on the "special handling" of some other wing of the Bush coalition, and cater to their sensibilities. We don't need it, or want it.
Lots of people have lost jobs,throughout the history of this nation,for various reasons.As a matter of fact,job safety is a relatively "new" idea to hit this nation and dates from around the late 1940s.OTOH,job loss was a constant worry,throughout most of this nation's history! Throughout the mid 1800s through four decades of the 20th century,people were thrown out of jobs for NO reason at all and new immigrants hired for much lower salaries.
Just what Chamberlinbuff needs, an endorsement from you.
Are YOU a Canadian citizen?
Embarrassed to say I've never even visited Canada - - I'm one of those Americans who hasn't traveled much outside of America.
"It's not personal. It's just business." - Don Vito Corleone
"Property is theft." - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
The creative destruction of robust free trade capitalism has its short term winners and losers, and a lot of the short term losers have time to post on FR. Long term of course, without such creative destruction, this nation would end up like Argentina, or worse. But then of course you already knew all this. I am just trying to suck up to you, for once. :)
Thank you for correcting my spelling, but I would like to point out that leading off with a spelling correction isn't a way to make yourself look more intellegent. It makes you look like a person who would rather point out minor mistakes of the otherside rather than debate the points they are making.
He lost his jobs because of ILLEGAL labor. He didn't lose his job because it was no longer needed. The only reason we have illegal labor in this country is because people will not enfore the laws against it.
Perhaps you should get some sleep and rethink your support of those that break our nations laws.
"intelligent." Spell check really is your friend. It certainly is mine.
I just wish that people,who post socialist prose,but claim to be "Conservatibes",would go learn some American history.
And yes,the whingers DO have far too much free time to waste.
Is your problem with the status of the immigrants, or that they are competing against overpriced local labor?