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Rumsfeld Admires War Criminal
Lewis Regenstein

Posted on 05/27/2004 12:27:27 PM PDT by philosofy123

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To: philosofy123

If he wanted to admire a Civil War general, he should have used Lee, but unfortunately that wouldn't be PC for those masses who don't really know anything about Lee except that he was from the South. For example, Lee was publicly against slavery and didn't own slaves, as opposed to Grant and his wife, and started freeing the slaves of a whole plantation as soon as he inherited it. And as far as I know all of his armed conflicts were carried through with honor.


41 posted on 05/27/2004 1:04:24 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: philosofy123
>>>Ordering the expulsion on 24 hours notice of all Jews "as a class" from the territory under his control<<<

But, but, I thought the left is accusing us of fighting this war for the Jews...Israel?

Oh, I got it - Rumsfeld is doing this to make up for his hero's (Grant) racist blunder.

Sometimes the Democrats get so convoluted I have trouble following their thought processes.

42 posted on 05/27/2004 1:05:25 PM PDT by HardStarboard ( Wesley...gone. Hillary......not gone enough!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Lee was not fighting to defend slavery, true enough.

Thomas J. Jackson even taught slaves to read -- which was illegal throughout much of the South (though I admit I don't know if it was in Virginia).

The Civil War was full of oddities like that. I guess that's why so many of us like to argue about it.

43 posted on 05/27/2004 1:08:02 PM PDT by Tallguy (Surviving in PA....thats the "other PA"...Pennsylvania.)
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To: Tallguy
Thomas J. Jackson even taught slaves to read -- which was illegal throughout much of the South (though I admit I don't know if it was in Virginia).

It was, and Jackson didn't seem to care. He started a Sunday School for blacks, taught the same, and sent monetary contributions for its support during the war.

44 posted on 05/27/2004 1:11:45 PM PDT by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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To: philosofy123

Yosemite Sam missed the end of the War, too.

Let it go, Mr. R.

45 posted on 05/27/2004 1:14:43 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Can we all get back to talking about Abu Ghraib, please?)
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To: philosofy123
the gentlemanly policies and behavior of the Confederate forces.

My great-great uncle starved to death shortly after his liberation from Salisbury prison in North Carolina. But it was a gentlemanly starvation.

47 posted on 05/27/2004 1:19:46 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: HenryLeeII

I was being facetious, but you're point is a good one. Heck, any movie made before 1964 doesn't pass the sniff testers either.


48 posted on 05/27/2004 1:19:55 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: philosofy123

Actually, Lee would be good. I read a book a few years ago, a joint biography of Grant and Lee. Pretty good on both accounts.


49 posted on 05/27/2004 1:21:47 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Tallguy

It is fair to say pretty much ANY pow's from either side would have been quite happy to be in abu garib, from what I have read.


50 posted on 05/27/2004 1:22:36 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: laconic

"A divided nation would have retained slavery south of the border and as Gen. Longstreet said in the movie Gettysburg, "the war is about slavery". "

Presumably you know that there was a LOT more going on in the causes of the civil war than just slavery.


51 posted on 05/27/2004 1:25:01 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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It is fair to say pretty much ANY pow's from either side would have been quite happy to be in abu garib, from what I have read.

Everything about the Civil War was improvised: Armies, Medical Care, POW Camps, Rail Transport....you could go on & on. A lot of the apparent brutality stems from that fact.

52 posted on 05/27/2004 1:26:46 PM PDT by Tallguy (Surviving in PA....thats the "other PA"...Pennsylvania.)
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To: philosofy123

Sincerely in need of therapy,

AN IDIOT

Atlanta, Georgia


53 posted on 05/27/2004 1:28:39 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Let your opponent point to you the way to overcome him.)
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To: philosofy123
Mr. Regenstein's favorite movie:

The South is gonna rise again...Yeeeeehaaaw!

54 posted on 05/27/2004 1:31:18 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: philosofy123
Personally I think he should be emulating General Sherman. Sherman crushed the Southeast by burning his way from Chattanooga to Savannah, and went on to wipe out a substantial part of the Plains Indians.

Perhaps he wasn't the most politically correct general in the world, but he sure got the job done - no negotiation, no half-measures. al-Sadr should be messily dead, along with huge swathes of his followers, the Mosque of Ali should be a crater, and Najaf and Fallujah should be ruins.

Just in case you're wondering, I am Southron born and bred, and I live near Atlanta. I just know what sort of Generals I like turning loose on the my enemies.
55 posted on 05/27/2004 1:32:00 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: philosofy123
You are correct. Carl Rove reads from Prince Machiavelli?

"Prince Machiavelli" was a brand of perfume

Niccolo Machiavelli was an author, student of government, and general policy wonk that wrote "The Prince" as a resume in an attempt to get a job working for Lorenzo Medici.

56 posted on 05/27/2004 1:34:43 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: philosofy123

So? Does that excuse that a self-avowed war criminal is now seeking election to the highest office in the land?


57 posted on 05/27/2004 1:45:42 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
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To: jscd3

Machiavelli wanted to be a Prince. But nobody would hire him.


58 posted on 05/27/2004 2:15:47 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: philosofy123

Muslims admire a pedophile. I can't wait to see the editorial printed on that!


59 posted on 05/27/2004 2:23:00 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
Is every Leftist really this delusional?
This guy isn't a leftist, he's a Confederate apologist. His point is not to bash Rummy but to bash Grant.
60 posted on 05/27/2004 2:30:22 PM PDT by drjimmy
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