Group tries to prevent gay Catholics from taking communion

http://www.grandforks.com ^ | May. 30, 2004 | ELIZABETH DUNBAR

[Arthur McGowan]

In a written statement, the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis said that while only baptized Catholics should take Holy Communion, "the determination of a person's spiritual readiness rests with the individual conscience and honesty of individual worshippers."

That's a selective and dishonest quotation. The Archdiocesan statement said that only baptized Catholics in the state of grace should receive Communion. Its statement made very clear that the sash wearers should NOT receive Communion, while still saying that no one would be denied Communion.

[AmericaUnited]

An active homosexual who presents him (or her) self for the Sacrament of Confession, MUST acknowledge their awareness of sinfulness and GIVE UP their active homosexual lifestyle

Bingo! Jesus said "Go and sin no more", not "Go and just make sure you confess each and every time you sin in the future".

[A. Pole]

"We don't know what's in someone's heart".

Is a sash not enough? Do they need them to come up to communion holding hands?

Or what if they had this sign on the armband:

Or this:

I am sure this "priest" would welcome them too!

[A. Pole]

And that is where you would be wrong! An active homosexual who presents him (or her) self for the Sacrament of Confession, MUST acknowledge their awareness of sinfulness and GIVE UP their active homosexual lifestyle.

He said it about "CELIBATE" person. It implies giving up active homosexual lifestyle.

[BabyRepub]

What about the verse right before?

"Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord."
1 Cor 11:27

I'm pretty certain that being a practicing homosexual and taking Communion is taking it in an "unworthy manner."

[miltonim]

Or a hood, instead of a sash?

[dsc]

"So, why do they even want to be Catholic?"

IMO, they are under the direct influence of Satan to a degree that would horrify us all if it became visible, and he is using them to attack the Church.

[sweetliberty]

"I'm pretty certain that being a practicing homosexual and taking Communion is taking it in an "unworthy manner."

What they want is for us to say that sin isn't sin. They mock the church and they mock the Lord. The militant homosexuals are agents of Satan, those whom God has given over to a reprobate mind.

[miltonim]

How about wearing a dynamite hash, and holding hands?

[miltonim]

meant sash

[freedumb2003]

IMO, they are under the direct influence of Satan to a degree that would horrify us all if it became visible, and he is using them to attack the Church

It is not possible for someone to be a practicing gay and a true Catholic. What most don't seem to understand is Catholicism (for the most part) is not a cafeteia religion -- you don't get to pick and choose which parts you will adhere to.

Homosexual relations are a Sin. Promoting them is promoting Sin (which is yet another sin).

This is 0% theological and 100% political.

[BabyRepub]

I know. I forgot the /sarcasm. : P

[ladyinred]

! An active homosexual who presents him (or her) self for the Sacrament of Confession, MUST acknowledge their awareness of sinfulness and GIVE UP their active homosexual lifestyle.

I think I have to agree with you. Repentance means that you turn away from your sins, not just get cleansed for the moment doesn't it?

[A. Pole]

Can. 212 §1 Christ's faithful, conscious of their own responsibility, are bound to show christian obedience to what the sacred Pastors, who represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith and prescribe as rulers of the Church.

Unless they are like Apostol Judas.

[caddie]

You are right on. And I am not a theologian, but...
I think that a "sin against the Holy Spirit" is a sin such as that committed by the sash-wearers.
It is a hyper-sin, one that cannot be forgiven, according to the words of Jesus.
Why?
Not because God is unwilling to forgive the penitent, but, in such a case as this, the penitent refuses adamantly to consider the behavior sinful.
The gays think what they are doing is virtuous.
But militant homosexuality is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

[caddie]

Yes, they are in fact, infiltrators, satanists at that.

And there's a lot of them, including clergy.

[A. Pole]

Shame on the "Ushers of the Eucharist" for usurping the office of priest, disrupting a Mass and potentially violating the civil law.

If the laymen were more vigilant the pederasts could not use priesthood as a cover.

[caddie]

I agree with you here, and have seen it happening.
I married into a family of believers who were Christian Protestant, and I was and am a Catholic believer.
Events of the past 20 years (been married 18) have made it clear to us all that the 'right wings' of all Christian churches (The Church) are indeed becoming united.
As are the left wings of the various sects claiming to be christian.
I see it happening.