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CNN: Bill Clinton VP Contender (What Constitution?)
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Posted on 06/04/2004 12:33:41 PM PDT by Republican Red

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To: Frank_Discussion

I didn't say it wasn't scary, but it is a fact. You have a nice weekend too, I enjoyed the chat.


81 posted on 06/04/2004 3:14:34 PM PDT by olorin
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To: Republican Red

if he tried he would have to be eliminated


82 posted on 06/04/2004 3:20:12 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: Rider on the Rain
Can the Secretary of State who is not natural born

Of course the current SecState doesn't have this problem. Secretary Powell was born in New York City on April 5, 1937. His parents were Jamacian immigrants. His immediate predecessor did have that problem though, Madeleine Korbel Albright was born in Prague, Czechoslovakia, on May 15, 1937. She didn't come to the US until she was about 11. Similarly Henry Kissinger was born in Furth, Germany, on May 27, 1923, and fled the Nazies in 1938. Ike's last SecState was also born overseas, Christian Archibald Herter was born in Paris, France on March 28, 1895. (However he would be natural born, because his parents were Americans, there is famous American physician by that name who would have been 30 in 1895, and was likely his father.)

83 posted on 06/04/2004 3:21:35 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Republican Red
"On CNN's website, Bill Clinton is listed as a VP Contender "

IF (big IF) that were to happen, lord ef'n of Ketchup better have his life insurance paid up, 'cause he might get "ron brown'ed".

But, if they tried to do that and get clinton back in there, I think we would finally see the "silent majority" stand up and be counted...AGAINST clinton.
84 posted on 06/04/2004 3:26:26 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: Constitution Day
They certainly need a remedial course in reading comprehension, don't they?

It's you who needs the remedial course.

Bill Clinton is unquestionably "eligible to the office of President of the United States".

He has attained the age of 35.

He is a natural-born US citizen.

He has resided in the United States for the past fourteen years.

It's true, he cannot enter his third term by being chosen by the electors for President who will be picked on November 2, 2004. That is forbidden by the XXII Amendment.

However, if he were Speaker of the House, and the President and Vice-President died, he certainly would succeed to the office of President.

The authors of the XXII Amendment did not choose to make former Presidents constitutionally ineligible to the office, nor did they address the Vice-Presidency.

Presumably, this is because they could not imagine that the People would become so degraded as to elevate a specimen such as Clinton to the Presidency to begin with.

However, if he runs and if 271 or more electors for Vice President select him, he will unquestionably assume that office. Who or what could stop him?

And Kerry will then, unquestionably, resign.

85 posted on 06/04/2004 4:27:30 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: admiralsn
Yes, but see the 12th Amendment- last line.....

What makes Clinton Constitutionally ineligible to the office?

Answer: Nothing.

86 posted on 06/04/2004 4:29:00 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Lexinom
"Is it nostaligia, reminding people of high-tech IPO's and $100/share DOT COM stocks?"

No; he's their little tin god who protects their sacred cows.

87 posted on 06/04/2004 5:06:50 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: Republican Red
U.S. CONSTITUTION:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Of course, the Constitution never says what it says. And it usually says what it doesn't say.
88 posted on 06/04/2004 5:17:02 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Republican Red

There is a sickness in the media over these two Clinton pigs.


89 posted on 06/04/2004 5:19:45 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within. John Kerry even flips&flops with his finger!)
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To: Republican Red

Looks like we have another case of "no controlling legal authority."


90 posted on 06/04/2004 5:39:26 PM PDT by Whispering Smith
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To: Republican Red

The Bent One being considered a VP doesn't come as a shock to me. This is part of the Clinton grand plan. If Kerry picks The Bent One, he better watch his back.


91 posted on 06/05/2004 12:41:51 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Well since the left continues to say Bush wasn't elected, when he wins in November, by their measure it will be his first elected term and thus can run for reelection in 2008!

That's what I always tell Liberals I meet on the street that still talk about Bush being "selected". They walk away in a huff and I go about my errands.

92 posted on 06/05/2004 12:43:37 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: gitmo

Forget trying to explain the Constitution to a foaming at the mouth Liberal. The Constitution is like a road block to the Left, they'll always find their way to a detour and go around the road block.


93 posted on 06/05/2004 12:47:21 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: Republican Red
It will never happen. Kerry has the unenviable task of finding someone even less interesting then he is. One does not want the veep candidate outshining the top of the ticket by several orders of magnitude.
94 posted on 06/05/2004 12:54:16 AM PDT by Redcloak (My tagline was abducted by aliens and replaced with this exact duplicate.)
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To: Republican Red

Unfortunately, due to the poor language of the 22nd, BJ is eligible for VP and even president. At first I thought it was a joke, but after careful reading of both the 12th and 22nd, it is unfortunately clear that he can be elected VP and in the case of Arkancide, even serve as president.


95 posted on 06/05/2004 1:02:49 AM PDT by thedugal (Terrorists play western media like a harp from hell.)
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To: gitmo
U.S. CONSTITUTION: But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Could it depend also on how one interpretes the word "ineligible"? If "ineligible" means "not able to be chosen, (as the 1913 Websters dictionary defined it, for example), then Clinton would be "ineligible" in any event. The only way to be chosen President is to be elected. One can become president if the president died, having been chosen as vice-president - but that is not a choice or chosing process. Am I saying that clearly? In other words, the only way to be chosen as President is to be elected. So if eligible = choose-able, then Bill is ineligible because no one could in any event directly choose him as for the office.

96 posted on 06/05/2004 1:16:22 AM PDT by dano1
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To: Congressman Billybob

I agree with you Congressman Billybob, but watch how fast these living constitutionalists try to play a bastardized strict constructionist game in arguing that the 12th amendment can only apply to the eligibility rules in force at the time it was drafted.


97 posted on 06/05/2004 3:19:55 AM PDT by Dahoser (9/11---The Legacy of Clinton treating terrorism as a law enforcement issue.)
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To: Republican Red

Looks like CNN got it wrong!


98 posted on 06/05/2004 9:41:42 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Republican Red

You would think these idiots would do a little research. Like open up the constitution and actually read it. Makes you wonder what else they do not research?


99 posted on 06/05/2004 9:54:45 AM PDT by Veloxherc (To go up pull back, to go down pull back all the way.)
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To: Jim Noble

Jim,

"However, if he were Speaker of the House, and the President and Vice-President died, he certainly would succeed to the office of President."

I made this point a bit back, but I'll make it again, by asking a question:

Is he Speaker, or otherwise a government official in the line of presidential succession? If not, then Slick ain't eligible.

**Slick is a private citizen, not in the line of succession, and therefore ineligible.**

If he were in the line of succession, then the legal loophole would exist for Kerry to pick him as a running mate. But only then.


100 posted on 06/07/2004 9:56:24 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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