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Mark Steyn: Reagan knew why the EU won't work
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 06/08/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/07/2004 4:35:07 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Plutarch

They will never ever forgive Reagan for defeating their beloved USSR.

The revisionists when into full gear in the early 90's with their "Gorbachev saved the world from Reagan" mantras...


21 posted on 06/07/2004 6:04:44 PM PDT by Guillermo (Simpson, you've got a short in your tail light. It started blinking when you made that turn - Wiggum)
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To: Pokey78
Pow! Out of the park again!

Many of my New Hampshire neighbours wander round with the constitution in their pocket so they can whip it out and chastise over-reaching congressmen and state representatives at a moment's notice. Try going around with the European Constitution in your pocket and you'll be walking with a limp after 48 hours. It's full of stuff about European space policy, water resources, free expression for children, the right to housing assistance, preventive action on the environment, etc.

They may well be worthy planks in a political platform, but they're not constitutional matters. Yet what else is there? The European Constitution attempts to supplant genuine national identities with an ersatz bureaucratic identity - a government identity, from which a new national identity will follow. For Ronald Reagan, America was the "shining city on a hill". For M Giscard and his fellow founding fathers, the European Union is affordable housing on an environmentally protected hill. I can't see it working myself.

Steyn is a true American

22 posted on 06/07/2004 6:12:29 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Pokey78

"I slept easier in my bed knowing he was sleeping easier in his."

Ditto, and the same goes for President Bush.


23 posted on 06/07/2004 6:13:41 PM PDT by avenir (Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous / Look at them, who can blame us / Lessons in the subject of decay)
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To: Pokey78

That's the basic problem with the EU. It's a bunch of bureaucrats who micromanage everything and are responsible to nobody. Don't like them? Tough. No way to vote them out.


24 posted on 06/07/2004 6:26:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pokey78
They're just the outward symbols, and, without the deeper assumed ties, are as meaningless for the European Union as they were for Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union.

Just so. You can't make a Union by saying, "We're united and we have the paperwork to prove it!"

25 posted on 06/07/2004 6:31:30 PM PDT by irv
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To: Pokey78

Wonderful...every line is priceless...and God knows we need a laugh or a smile right now.


26 posted on 06/07/2004 6:36:04 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Pokey78

This guy is an international treasure for the Anglosphere.


27 posted on 06/07/2004 6:36:40 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: MeekOneGOP

Wow! Every time I see that picture I ask myself how we ever got lucky enough to have this man as president for eight years. But it was no fluke. Thank you, God.


28 posted on 06/07/2004 6:39:18 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Pokey78

"The Tories have an established modus operandi on Europe: first, they tell us they're going to stand firm; then they sign on to it anyway; finally, they assure us it doesn't mean anything. The biggest question facing the country today is this: is the United Kingdom to be a nation state or merely a westerly region of a highly centralised European entity? The Tories, as a matter of policy, have fudged that question for 15 years, and in so doing have assisted the remorseless march of the Euro-fantasists. So I'm afraid I cannot agree with my eminent colleagues. This Thursday, vote UKIP."

15 yrs of Tory funk, debunked in one paragraph.


29 posted on 06/07/2004 6:47:36 PM PDT by crazycat
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To: RobFromGa

"They wouldn't want the USA and conservatism to get the credit for turning back totalitarianism."

The conservatives of that day forestalled totalitarianism. That caliber of conservative is long gone.


30 posted on 06/07/2004 6:50:19 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Fred Nerks
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it. :^D

31 posted on 06/07/2004 7:00:31 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Pokey78

bttt


32 posted on 06/07/2004 7:12:35 PM PDT by KOZ. (i'm so bad i should be in detention)
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To: BlessedBeGod
GOD!--How we Loved Ronald Reagan!

To the AMAZEMENT of MANY of Us; We Loved His Vision of America as Much as HE DID!!

To the Amazement of Many of Us, He Understood the Soul of our Nation Better than We Did.

"America" Isn't just a "Place;" It is an Idea;--Mr Reagan Knew This BETTER THAN most of "The Rest of Us!!"

THAT SINGLE FACT is WHY "President Reagan" was able to DEFINE & ENHANCE our National Identity so that we NOT ONLY DEFEATED the concept of a "Soviet Economy," but we ACTIVELY DEMONSTRATED that a "Market Economy" WORKS!!

While "Controlled Versions" of a "Free Market Economy" are being "experimented with" by formerly "Soviet-Style Controlled Economies;" TRULY "Free MARKETS" are overwhelming "Socialist Markets!!"

The OLD, Centrally-Controlled economy CANNOT Withstand a "Free-Market-Economy!!"

So Be It!!

Doc

33 posted on 06/07/2004 7:15:28 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Pokey78
This Thursday, vote UKIP.

OUCH! Looks like the Tories are about dead as a party.

34 posted on 06/07/2004 7:23:32 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: zencat
Hard to believe he's Canadian.

Canada, in many respects, is a government in search of a nation.

35 posted on 06/07/2004 7:26:55 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: Pokey78

Thanks, Pokey...

And well said, as usual, Mr Steyn.

EU: People by the Government, of the Government, and for the Government.

And God Bless you, Ronald Reagan.


36 posted on 06/07/2004 8:00:28 PM PDT by moonhawk (Actually, I'm voting FOR John Kerry....Before I vote AGAINST him.)
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To: Doc On The Bay

I said it (to a liberal friend) when he left office, and it bears repeating, now more than ever: "In time, Reagan will be recognized as one of the greatest Presidents ever"; he spoke to what is best in men and makes most of the others seem pretty small in comparison...


37 posted on 06/07/2004 8:07:41 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook
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To: zencat
Hard to believe he's Canadian.

In Texas, it's not uncommon to see bumper stickers that say, "I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could."

Similarly, Steyn wasn't born an American, but it didn't take him long to figure out where he really belonged.

38 posted on 06/07/2004 8:15:54 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon; zencat; CharacterCounts

Hard to believe he's Canadian.

And that's the reason Steyn is dubbed "self-loathing Canadian" by the establishment Canadian media and chattering classes and many (mainly Central/Eastern and far-Western) Canadians. They literally beg him to "renounce his Canadian subject status".

And interestingly you will notice his posts rarely attract responses from our resident Canadian (or pro-status-quo-Canada American) friends here on FR. Poiunts to ponder...

39 posted on 06/07/2004 9:25:47 PM PDT by NZerFromHK
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To: Pokey78

BTTT


40 posted on 06/07/2004 9:34:35 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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