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P.J. O'Rourke: I Agree with Me – When was the last time a conservative talk show changed a mind?
The Atlantic Monthly ^ | July/August 2004 | P.J. O'Rourke

Posted on 06/07/2004 5:50:22 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc
P.J:
Very weak... You're fresh out of bile... Yellow watered down Screed-o-aid won't do. Suggest shutting up for a few months until something pisses you off. Then piss on it.
81 posted on 06/07/2004 10:01:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Spiff
When I first listened to Rush I was angry . . . he had to be wrong because if he was right that would mean that I'd been lied to for years and that I'd been a fool - a useful idiot.

And that is why I despise democrats.

My very gentlemanly unreformed_republican husband rarely brings up my stupid season, but occasionally he just can't help himself. He reminds me of things I said -- and I do remember saying them -- and I could just crawl under a rock.

There are many times I've wished my life had an "Undo" option.

82 posted on 06/07/2004 10:03:33 PM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: reformed_democrat

If you don't feel like an idiot when you look back on your youth, then you didn't have one. ;-)


83 posted on 06/07/2004 10:06:18 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Unfortunately, my youth lasted almost into middle age.


84 posted on 06/07/2004 10:08:44 PM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: quidnunc; All
Conservative, conservative, Paleo-con, Neo-con, Libertarian, libertarian, Constitutionalist, Eve of Destruction, tax deduction, city inspectors, bill collectors ... oops, sorry, got carried off point.
My Doctrine, get out and stay out of my wallet and it's contents, my house and it's contents, my computer and it's contents. Hire cops more interested in fighting crime than busting balls, teachers more interested in spreading knowledge than propaganda, religious people more interested in my soul than mind control.
In return, I will pay reasonable taxes for civil services and other stuff.
86 posted on 06/07/2004 10:34:18 PM PDT by olde north church (Julie, is there a rebellion?)
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To: bt_dooftlook

Mine is: "If you think health care is expensive now... wait
'til it's FREE!


87 posted on 06/07/2004 10:39:07 PM PDT by des
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To: Joe_October
...I'm so conservative that I approve of San Francisco City Hall marriages, adoption by same-sex couples, and New Hampshire's recently ordained Episcopal bishop. Gays want to get married, have children, and go to church....

Please, don't be so stupid.

P.J. isn't stupid. He's always been a liberal's conservative, writing for Rolling Stone and Playboy and such, while stradling the fence far enough right to pull some money from conservatives too. He's smartly and carefully balancing his opinions to maximize his income.

88 posted on 06/07/2004 10:45:53 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: reformed_democrat
I think that I have made an awful lot of mistakes, and I continue to make mistakes.

What saves me, is my parents love and God's love.

When I was a little boy, I read Auschwitz, about the NAZI extermination camp. We called them extermination camps, then; and I prefer calling them extermination camps, because "holocaust" is somebody's idea of marketing; when extermination was the business of the socialists acting in "like-minded" opposition to life and liberty.

I was just a little boy, reading that paperback book under the covers at night, with my hand-made single battery cell-powered lamp. I was afraid that this book was so terrible, surely my parents would not want me to read it. And so I would sneak it out of the bookshelf, and then later, put it back. (Of course, they must have known; I fell asleep plenty of times, with it.)

I still remember the story, though I read it sometime around 1959 - 1960, at least forty-four years ago.

My father had been in the service, during the war.

Our neighbor to the west of us had been in the Army. He fought under Bradley and then Hodges. He took a trip on the 15h reunion of his comrades and found the pillboxes he had attacked. I remember the pictures. I was disappointed. There were no Germans, no guns, no action. Merely white concrete in the middle of green fields.

Our neighbor to the west of him, was a fellow and wife who had met during the war in England. He was technical genious, and she was a mathemetician, also a genius. They worked on the development and maintenance of the computers that were used to crack the German code. Prior to that, they had met while working on the coordination of the British RADAR during the Battle of Britain. Nobody knew what they did, while they were our neighbors. I found out later.

Across the street from us, our neighbor had been in the war. Then the next neighbor and so on.

In the event of my parent's passing, our appointed guardians were veterans, Navy.

When I was a kid, World War II had just ended, as far as the newspapers were concerned; and of course, some TV.

Yet in our house, and in other homes, we remained on standby in the event of a surprise attack, because we knew that the war had not fully ended.

The dreary minds of people who lust for power and conquest, had not been defeated, when the NAZI's and the Japanese had surrendered. Instead, the socialists remained determined to complete the business for which they had first joined the Axis Powers against freedom-loving people; that is, the Russians and other socialists in uniform ("communists") were still intent on conquest.

They did not desire conquest because they hated anybody not of their own lands; intstead, they desired conquest because they were and some still are, evil in their hearts, which they cannot admit to themselves, except the few who, as you might say, "come to Jesus."

We were unsure even then, of how many millions of people Stalin had killed, and Mao had killed, and the North Koreans were killing, and Castro was planning to kill ... but it would dwarf the efficiency of the NAZI's, and it was still, extermination.

Next to the extermination camps, there were smaller camps. They were filled with young teenage girls. They were raped to death, by the thousands. Few kids these days, have ever heard of that. Go ahead; ask or children, "Have you ever wondered in all the pictures of the extermination camps, where are the girls?" They are not there. They were raped to death.

They were exterminated; their lives, aborted by un-limited government.

There were some books of my father's, and one was about U.S. Navy destroyers; stories from the war. Inside, there was a picture of a lone sailor at an exposed 5" gun mount on the bow of a ship taking a terrible beating in "the Slot" off Guadacanal in 1942. An enemy shell had traversed the ship, and it had sliced open the man's abdomen. His entrails were laid out upon the deck. He scooped them up and held them with one arm and hand, while, with the other hand, he continued to load this deck gun all by himself and fire it until his last breathe.

I was four to five years old.

Friends of my father's group, knew men who were still dying for freedom, after the war. Men being shot by the socialists, as they tried to help people who were desparate to get free from the socialists. People where shot trying to flee from the Soviets in Hungary and elsewhere.

Hundreds of thousands of Russians who were in the Western Allies control after the war, were sent home to the Soviet Union, where they were exterminated because the socialists chose to define these re-patriots as "no longer like-minded."

My father and his friends were involved in projects; they involved defeating socialists, which socialists here, in the United States, cannot bear to face --- because, in the mirror, while lecturing us about how we are the "fascists," they would see themselves.

That is why, the saying is, that there is no reflection for the devil.

Unfortunately for human desires, there is actually no middle ground in this matter. A person must choose sides. You will have to decide on which side of the battle, you will be; and sometimes, that decision will divide even your home and tear you away from some one you may love, or you may think you love.

I have, in a manner, been at war and in combat all my life, because I have had to live under quite a lot of stress, with what I learned, and how prepared that I know we must be, so as not to be surprised. In addition to my desire to struggle for my own salvation, that is, in observance of what I like to recall from some writing about the secret of George Washington's success; he said, "the straight line."

I can tell you that there is no formula yet better for your and my defense, than being prepared, maintaining resolve, and enjoying what peace we have with God's blessings.

You have the right, by God, to have a mind of your own.

Socialism's un-limited government will not provide that.

God Bless you all.

 

89 posted on 06/07/2004 11:47:29 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Fledermaus

bttt


90 posted on 06/08/2004 12:05:39 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: First_Salute

Your post just took my breath away and left me almost speechless.That has to be one of THE best posts EVER posted to a thread on FR,in its history! BRAVO!


91 posted on 06/08/2004 12:17:08 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: veronica

Rush is the only really good conservative radio host IMO, and the fact is the mainstream media is so liberal, that for for me, turning to Rush is a comfort, because he articulates how I feel and think about events, much better and with deeper insight that I can muster. It's not about agreeing, per se, it's about framing the issues and putting them in perspective in the unique and entertaining way that he does.




DITTO'S


92 posted on 06/08/2004 1:30:23 AM PDT by rock58seg (Politics: if successful there are rewards, if not, write a book! BUSH/CHENEY 04)
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To: Hank Rearden

Because they only have a majority, not control. Unfortunatly majority does not rule when you also have RINO"s to contend with, Lincoln, Snow, spector, McCain, et al.


93 posted on 06/08/2004 1:40:30 AM PDT by rock58seg (Politics: if successful there are rewards, if not, write a book! BUSH/CHENEY 04)
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To: babaloo999
"letting lawyers make laws is like giving whiskey and the car keys to teenage boys".

The actual quote is :

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.

94 posted on 06/08/2004 1:59:07 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: quidnunc

P. J. has part of a point. On the other hand, how many minds do you suppose left-wing radio actually changes? How many right-wingers actually listen to NPR, or Pacifica, or Air America and think to themselves, "My God, I've seen the light"? And in any case, is it our fault our competition is getting stupider and stupider so fast you can hear the dying shrieks of their brain cells if you listen closely enough?


95 posted on 06/08/2004 2:07:49 AM PDT by RichInOC (Ronald Wilson Reagan, 2/6/11-6/5/04, R.I.P.)
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To: First_Salute
That is why, the saying is, that there is no reflection for the devil.

Great line, great post.

Thank you.

96 posted on 06/08/2004 9:24:06 AM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: reformed_democrat

And thank you.


97 posted on 06/08/2004 9:57:42 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Start with Holidays in Hell.

Good take on the world, but I prefer A Parliment of Whores. An absolute classic on the way the US government really functions.

98 posted on 06/08/2004 10:45:02 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I haven't read this author before.  Is he always this stupid?

This isn't one of his better efforts. Here are a few PJ quotes that you may like to sample.

99 posted on 06/08/2004 11:04:52 AM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: ActionNewsBill

That's it. I couldn't remember the exact phrase. I must have something against lawyers, subconciouscly of course.


100 posted on 06/08/2004 6:20:09 PM PDT by babaloo999 (Zionist troll since 2001)
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