Black XXVIII: "Dutch's Home!!"

Yeah, yeah. I've read all of the reviews trashing the book. But I'm not going to be reading it for style; I'm going to read it to see what he says about what went down in his presidency.

Besides, I can't be too hard on him, since I write the same way myself: sloppy and scattershot. It's like author's ADD. =)

And I almost fell for your Monica quote there. I got about three sentences in before the light bulb came on over my head. Then it just came to me, and I got the thrust of what you were saying. =)

201 posted on 06/23/2004 4:40:02 PM PDT by SamFromSC

Happy to hear that the FIL will be OK. It's also good to hear that he'll be watching his diet a little more closely.

"Self-responsibility empowers the individual"
--- jla 2004

I too have some words regarding Bill Clinton I'd like to share, (this wasn't in his book though):


In the end, if clinton's arrogant, ruthless, reckless nature is restored to him, it seems the joke will be on all of us, for it will be a victory for infinite victimhood and irresponsibility, for seduction, for violence, for nihilism, for anarchy. We will have set apart clinton as the hero by making his victims less human than he; we will have allowed clinton to carefully estrange us from his victims so that we can enjoy the rapes and the beatings as much as clinton himself does. I dare missus clinton and her husband to prove they didn't participate in the 1978 rape of Juanita Broaddrick in Arkansas… and the 1969 rape of Eileen Wellstone at Oxford. The clintons should produce bill clinton's Oxford records explaining his sudden, (seemingly AWOL) post-Wellstone-rape departure; the clintons should release the Ford building evidence detailing their rape of Broaddrick; their reflexive abuse of women. The clintons could solve this very easily by coming clean with the American people and letting them know what they did and didn't do. The truth is, the Democrats brought this on themselves… They had the clintons dress up as feminists. The plain fact is: the clintons don't serve women--they rape them. --- Mia T

202 posted on 06/23/2004 5:13:02 PM PDT by jla (http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/memorial_fund.asp)

203 posted on 06/23/2004 5:15:20 PM PDT by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)

204 posted on 06/23/2004 5:17:49 PM PDT by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)

205 posted on 06/23/2004 6:46:29 PM PDT by SamFromSC

To: stand watie; Mudboy Slim

RE: "!!!!!!!"

Thanks buddy! That's a compliment you normaly reserve for Mud, so I'm flattered!
;^D

206 posted on 06/23/2004 10:21:40 PM PDT by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)

Thanks Potlatch!

Excellant article by Walter E. Williams:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterwilliams/printww20040623.shtml

"Will the West survive?"

By Walter E. Williams
June 23, 2004

The Muslim world is at war with Western civilization. We have the military might to thwart them. The question is: Do we have the intelligence to recognize the attack and the will to defend ourselves from annihilation? Their intent is clear, but let's refresh our memories with a bit of history.

At the 1972 Olympic Games in Munich, several athletes were massacred. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Tehran was taken over and 52 hostages held for more than a year. In 1983, U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up, killing 241 U.S. soldiers. In 1988, Pan Am flight 103 was bombed, killing 270 people. In 1993, there was the first bombing of the World Trade Center, and in 2001, it was reduced to rubble, killing more than 3,000 Americans. In 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed, resulting in more than 200 dead and 4,000 injured. Who are the people responsible for these and other wanton murders of innocents, including the recent barbaric beheading of two innocent men? They were all Muslims.

You say, "Williams, you can't make an indictment of a whole people and their religion!" I'm not, and let me clearly state: By no means are all Muslims murderers. But on the other hand, I've never heard broad Muslim condemnation of their fellow Muslims' murderous acts committed in the name of their God. If anything, there has been jubilation and dancing in the streets in the wake of Muslim attacks on Westerners. Contrast their response to the widespread Western condemnation of the, mild by comparison, behavior of a few coalition forces in Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

Muslim atrocities, and the collective Muslim response to those atrocities, might be better understood knowing their belief system as spelled out by a few, among many, passages from the Quran: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah" (Surat At-Taubah 9:29). "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them" (Quran 8:12). "The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures" (Quran 98:1-8). "Fight against those who believe not in Allah, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (Islam), until they are subdued" (Surat At-Taubah 9:29).

Phil Lucas, editor of the Panama City, Fla., News Herald, in his April 4, 2004, editorial "Up Against Fanaticism," asks, "Can anybody name three ongoing world conflicts in which Muslims are not involved?" Lucas says, "They can't get along with their neighbors on much of the planet: France, Chechnya, Bosnia, Indonesia, Spain, Morocco, India, Tunisia, Somalia, etc., etc., etc."

My colleague Dr. Thomas Sowell observes, "Those in the Islamic world have for centuries been taught to regard themselves as far superior to the 'infidels' of the West, while everything they see with their own eyes now tells them otherwise." He adds, "Nowhere have whole peoples seen their situation reversed more visibly or more painfully than the peoples of the Islamic world." Sowell adds that few people, once at the top of civilization, accept their reversals of fortune gracefully. Moreover, they don't blame themselves for their plight. For the Muslim world, it's the West who's to blame.

History never repeats itself exactly, but we might benefit from the knowledge of factors leading to the decline of past great civilizations. Rome was one of those advanced civilizations. Rome was so caught up in "bread and circuses" and moral decline that it couldn't manage to defend itself from invading barbaric hordes who ultimately plunged Europe into the Dark Ages. The sooner we recognize the West is in a war for survival, the more likely we'll be able to escape the fate that befell the Roman Empire.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterwilliams/printww20040623.shtml

207 posted on 06/23/2004 10:43:44 PM PDT by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)

I love it...excellent rendition, my FRiend!! So, what's the Over/Under on how many books Der SchleekMeister sells?! I'm thinking of getting an electronic copy just so I can copy/paste some of his more self-aggrandizing statements fer all to see!!

FReegards...MUD

BTW...hey 'dru.......OINK!!

208 posted on 06/24/2004 6:09:22 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

To: Cyber-Band; nina0113; Steve0113; helmut113

"The Embryo's New Clothes!!"

by Steve Kellmeyer

06/24/04

“People need a fairy tale,” said Ronald D.G. McKay, a stem cell researcher at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, “Maybe that’s unfair, but they need a story line that’s relatively simple to understand.”

The Promise

In the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, a creative man needed a patron, a rich nobleman who was willing to pay an artist’s upkeep so as to give the artist time to create. Long the backbone of artisans, patronage has only recently become the backbone of technologists. Sadly, in the seventy-odd years since the Manhattan Project spawned the government subsidy boom in technology, biological sciences have generally been a poor step-child. But biological experts, like everyone else, have house payments to make. The advantage of getting a government subsidy instead of a private subsidy to do your work is obvious: the government is not likely to go bankrupt. Thus, if you want to assure yourself a steady income, the most efficient way to do it is to get on the public dole. And therein lies a fairy tale, deliberately concocted and purposefully promoted.

Like Mom, apple pie and Chevrolet, everyone is for stem cell research. The promise of a disease-free life, lived longer and painlessly is very alluring. What’s not to love? Indeed, since the very first successful bone marrow transplant, stem cells have been used to successfully treat dozens of diseases. There’s just one problem. There are not one, but two, kinds of stem cells. These two kinds of cells are not interchangeable, either medicinally or morally, but certain people are deliberately confusing the two in order to promote a specific political agenda. I. Richard Garr, president and CEO of Neuralstem Inc., a private company in Gaithersburg, Md., working with adult neural stem cells, points out: "This is a field that has more hype in it than almost anything outside of professional wrestling. The last thing we want to do is take away hope from anyone, but even a higher priority for us is not to give anybody false hope. I think the hype that's out there is not productive."

The Facts

As you might recall from high school biology, all of us started as a single cell in our mothers’ fallopian tubes, we began as a zygote, a fertilized egg. By the time we reached the uterus, we had grown into embryos. As embryos, we implanted into our mothers’ wombs and eventually grew into the fine, upstanding people we are today. But all the hundreds of different kinds of cells we have in our bodies today came from that first cell and its progeny. A stem cell is one of those very early cells; it is a cell capable of turning into essentially any type of cell the body needs, depending on the mechanical and hormonal influences it is subject to. There are two kinds of stem cells: embryonic stem cells (ESC) and adult stem cells (ASC).

ESCs come exclusively from embryos. Children are deliberately conceived in artificial conditions, these children are allowed to grow to a specific stage of embryonic development in the laboratory, and they are then torn apart so their cells can be used for experimentation. Notice three things. (1) Embryos are torn apart, not fertilized eggs — zygotes are too immature. (2) This work requires the deaths of thousands of embryonic children. (3) This research is happening right now. It just doesn’t receive government funding. Yet. Researchers who support abortion like to argue that ESCs are the best thing to use for research. Since they clearly have not differentiated, we can learn more from these kinds of cells and we can adapt them for treatment more easily. Unfortunately for abortion supporters, getting stem cells from embryos has not turned out to be a good idea. Stem cells from embryos don’t know they are no longer part of an embryo. No matter where they are placed in the human body — heart, pancreas, skull — they tend to try to grow into a child. Since having a child growing inside your skull does not usually contribute to improved health, this kind of growth is considered cancerous.

In short, ESCs — unlike the fetal and post-natal varieties — have a tendency to produce tumors after implantation. "We have to find ways to minimize that," says Pamela Gehron Robey, chief of the Craniofacial and Skeletal Diseases Branch of the Division of Intramural Research of the National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research. She doesn’t mention that she is quite willing to kill thousands of embryonic children in order to get what she wants. ASCs, on the other hand, are found in anyone who has grown past the embryonic stage of development. Umbilical cord blood is the best source because the cord is easily accessible, the newborn immune system is not very advanced and the resulting ASCs tend to be accepted by the recipient’s immune system. But, ASCs have also been obtained from blood, bone marrow, olfactory nerve endings (these are constantly regenerated, so taking them from an adult’s nose has no side effects), skin cells, even fat. That’s right. You can go ahead and eat that Big Mac. Just donate the results to science.

The Fairy Tale

Now, stem cells are really only useful for one thing: replacing dead or dying cells that can no longer do their job. As noted above, ASCs have have been used for decades to treat disease. Leukemias, immune system and other blood disorders, cancers, auto-immune diseases: the list is nearly 100 illnesses long , with more on the way. As you can see, adult stem cells work very well and they work right now. There are no moral issues involved with ASCs, absolutely no one is trying to stop ASC research and thousands of people have benefited from ASC therapy. What about ESCs? Well, as noted above, obtaining ESCs involves killing children. Just as we shouldn’t (even if we can) kill people and snatch their heart, lungs and kidneys in order to solve the organ transplant shortage, so we shouldn’t (even if we can) kill children in order to snatch their embryonic stem cells. To make matters worse, there is absolutely no evidence ESCs work. Though ESC “therapy” has been tried dozens of times, no one has ever been successfully treated with embryonic stem cells. No one. Typically, ESCs make people more sick or kill them. Less often, they simply have no effect.

So, we have ASCs — a morally acceptable, medicinally useful stem cell therapy available right now, and we have ESCs — a morally illicit, medicinally useless stem cell therapy that is not likely to ever work. So, which do you think people want funded? The second, of course. People like Nancy Reagan and Michael J. Fox think embryonic stem cell research is useful for Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease because, like the communists that Ronald Reagan fought, embryonic stem cell researchers deliberately misrepresent the facts in order to drum up public support. The researchers need to feed at the public trough because private enterprise refuses to fund them. The ESC approach doesn’t work. Private enterprise does not stay in business by funding failure.

On June 10th’s World News Tonight, Ned Potter and Dr. Michael Shelanski, Alzheimer’s researcher, Columbia University, hinted at the chicanery:

Potter: “Stem cells, which are found in human embryos, may be able to replace almost any damaged cell in the body. But with Alzheimer’s it’s not the cell that need to be replaced.”

Shelanski: “The early changes of Alzheimer’s disease are a loss of the connections between nerve cells without death of the nerve cells themselves.”

Remember, stem cells, whether ASC or ESC, can only replace dead or damaged cells. They can’t fix living cells that don’t communicate well. Why aren’t these embryonic stem cell researchers being exposed as frauds? Because they are tearing apart human embryos, and that reduces respect for children in the womb. Journalists like Tom Shales, William Safire, Tom Brokaw, Sandra Hughes, Barbara Walters, the crew of Good Morning America, the president of the Alzheimer’s Association, and a couple dozen Congressmen all push for more embryonic stem cell research either because they don’t understand the issues or because they actively support legal abortion and recognize that the more our society takes a utilitarian view of very small humans, the less likely we are to end the slaughter of them. Scientific research is being prostituted for political ends. The embryo has no clothes.

Very interesting...MUD

209 posted on 06/24/2004 6:39:01 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

"The clintons should produce bill clinton's Oxford records explaining
his sudden, (seemingly AWOL) post-Wellstone-rape departure;
the clintons should release the Ford building evidence detailing
their rape of Broaddrick; their reflexive abuse of women."

MiaT, you write beautiful prose...MUD

BTW...thanks fer sharin', jla...you gonna join us on the Richmond CounterFReep on the 3rd of July?

210 posted on 06/24/2004 6:42:44 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

"I'm going to read it to see what he says about what went down in his presidency."

Sounds like he recalls many itty-bitty details, but "cannot recall" much about his TREASONOUS behavior vis a vis the Chi-Coms!! The dude is opening hisself up fer a lotta ridicule and I'll be damned if I ain't gonna help out on that score!!

Are you gonna make a roadtrip anywhere to get yer beloved POTUS's autograph?!

FReegards...MUD

BTW...good to hear yer father-in-law's doing better, and I hope your wife's recovering as well.

211 posted on 06/24/2004 7:14:24 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

"!!!!!!!!!"

Indeed...the next domino in the Axis of Evil is tottering...MUD

212 posted on 06/24/2004 7:17:42 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

"...every action needs to be considered not only for its purely short term and military value, but also in how it allows the enemy to gather its strength and paint us to its people. what do we do if they are goading us into acts which benefit them in the end?"

I believe this to be true, and I believe the Bush Administration is doing an admirable job in moving forcefully--yet mercifully--in Iraq. We've minimized collateral damage in a way that's never been attempted in warfare, and I think many--maybe most--Iraqis understand this. The Propogandizers will do what they do, but the reality is right in front of the Iraqis now, and on the 30th, it really becomes their baby.

FReegards...MUD

213 posted on 06/24/2004 7:22:25 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

"he said, 'Democrats like you and Sullivan get into government to help people.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Clinton is interested only in helping himself...he would behead his own mother if it kept him in Power!! Seriously, I do not believe fer one second that Alan Simpson said this, maybe O.J. Simpson, but not Alan!! This is self-serving bullkrap!!

"The right-wing extremists don't think government can do much to improve on human nature, but they like power. So does the press. And since you're President, they both get power the same way, by hurting you.' I appreciated Simpson's candor and I thought about what he said for months."

Like I said, you'd haveta be extremely naive to believe this krap, but I guess what makes SlickWillie tolerable to the masses of the DemonRAT victim class is their Willfull Ignorance, 'cuz nobody could be THAT STOOOOOPID without doing it on purpose, imho!!

SHEEEEESH, I'm not sure who's more STOOOOPID, the DemonRATS who believe Clinton, or Billzabubba fer believing his support base is soooooo STOOOOPID!!

MUD

214 posted on 06/24/2004 7:43:24 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

To: SamFromSC; liberallarry; MurryMom; Rotten; ferret

"Kerry's Party!!"
(To be sung to Bruce Springsteen's "Sherry Darlin'")

Dem Lib'rals yappin'...they're all deadbeats!!
Tell 'em it's all over...gonna be so sweet...
Next November's mournin', yer gonna be goin' down to the unemployment agency!!
'Cuz each morning Right be fightin'...no, we won't give up...
'Til Dubyuh wins...traitors, just shut up!!
Gonna be the last time DemRATS gonna be threatnin' the FRee!!

(Chorus)
Lemme tell ya there's a Lib'ral runnin' to be Prez'dent...
The dude's gawky and he's houndin' Dem young chicks!!
She can take yer guilt trip back to yer ghetto tonight!!
'Cuz the gang's all here and the FReepin's "FRee"...
Kerry's a fool, stop his blasphemy!!
Hey, Willie, why're you slayin' Kerry's Party?!!

FReeper gals flirtin' while they FReep...
They got great minds...and they know how to teach!!
There'll be no backtrackin' out here in Flyover Country!!
John Kerry, Left's love for you ain't real...
Boy, yer just fillin' in fer Hillary!!
Jane Kerry, RAT Party has its hero, Slick Willie!!

(Chorus)
Lemme tell ya there's a Lib'ral runnin' to be Prez'dent...
Dude looks gawky while he's bird-doggin' Dem phat chicks!!
You can take yer morals back to the ghetto tonight!!
'Cuz the gang's all here and the FReepin' "FRee"...
Kerry's a FOOL, Hanoi John's tyranny!!
Hey, Hill'ry, why you playin' Kerry's Party?!!

[Bigman on sax, CM on guitar]

Folks, keep fighting fer what's Right...ignore the pain!!
Let the bleedin'-hearted spew their spin!!
Kerry, you can run, but be warned, "Be Wary of the Right!!"
Tell Dem Lib'rals down in Central Park...
And all you politicos who're missin' the mark...
Say, Slick Willie, won't you pray fer yer Party?!
Hey, Willie, why'd you slay Kerry's Party?!

FReegards...MUD (2/23/2004)

215 posted on 06/24/2004 7:46:09 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

To: sultan88; jla; FBD; BOBTHENAILER; backhoe; Alamo-Girl; FreeTheHostages; Liz; Mia T; ...

"UN Confirms: WMDs Smuggled Out of Iraq!!"

"In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war. Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

Notably absent from that list is Iraq's western neighbor Syria, ruled by its own Baath Party just like Saddam's and closed to even the thought of an UNMOVIC inspection. Israeli intelligence has been reporting the large-scale smuggling of Saddam's WMD program across the Syrian border since at least two months before the war. Syria has long been the world's foremost state-sponsor of terrorism.

Perricos highlighted the proliferation danger to the Security Council, as well he should: UNMOVIC has no idea where most of the WMD material is today, just that it exists and it's gone; and anything in Syria is likely to be in Jerusalem or New York tomorrow. This is the biggest news story of 2004 so far. Yet you haven't heard about it, have you?

Spread the word, since the Vast LeftWing Medyuh Whore'd won't...MUD

216 posted on 06/24/2004 7:55:11 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (The Tyrants are Toppling...One by One!! Castro's Next!!)

>"excellent rendition, my FRiend"<

-Thanks Mud.

Note that I stole your "bong line"!
That's a good un! LOL.

>"So, what's the Over/Under on how many books Der SchleekMeister sells?! I'm thinking of getting an electronic copy just so I can copy/paste some of his more self-aggrandizing statements fer all to see!!"<

-The NY Slimes says it's a waste of time to read, full of boorish blather, self engrandizement, etc. Kinda like it's author!
;^D

Regards

217 posted on 06/24/2004 8:01:14 AM PDT by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)

RE-IMPEACH. CONVICT. DETHRONE.
DISBAR. DE-PENSION. DE-LEGITIMIZE.
INDICT. CONVICT. IMPRISON. DISCARD KEY.

RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton...MUD

218 posted on 06/24/2004 8:05:08 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)

To: Ragtime Cowgirl; summer; onyx; Luis Gonzalez; mommadooo3; firebrand; JohnHuang2; Pippin; BufordP

"Already Gone!!"
(To be sung to the Eagles' "Already Gone")

Folks, I heard Rush Limbaugh talkin' just the other day...
And Rush said, "RATS're gonna put Slick on the shelf!!
But let me tell you...MUD's got some news for you...
And you'll soon find out Right's True...
'Cuz Slick's gonna haveta eat his lunch in a JailCell!!

'Cuz Slick's already bombed...
And Right's feelin' strong!!
MUD shall sing his Vict'ry songs...woo, hoo,hoo,woo,hoo,hoo!!

EX-Prez'dent fer whom RATS voted...made me stop and wonder "WHY?!!"
But I reckon that we'll just haveta set things Right!!
Just remember this, Lib'ral, when ya listen to those who LIE...
You can be RAT-stars and still not know what's Right (WE're Right!!)

And Left's already done...
And Right's feelin' strong!!
Right shall sing this Vict'ry song...woo, hoo,hoo,woo, hoo,hoo!!!

Willie knows it was YOU FOOLS who gave Slick Power...
Clinton knows it shall be YOU who helps US FReep!!
So often times it happens that YOU live yer lives in chains...
And YOU never even knew 'bout Liberty!!

But me, I'm already gone!!
And I'm feelin' strong!!
Right Shall Sing this Vict'ry Song...
'Cuz Slick's Already Bombed!!

Yes, RATS're already gone...
And Right's feelin' strong!!
Right shall sing this Vict'ry song...
'Cuz RATS're already done!!

Yes, Slick's already buggered...
Slick's squeeeeelin' fer more!!
All Right, Let's Fight the Fight!!

BWAHAHAHAHA...MUD

219 posted on 06/24/2004 8:13:04 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)

220 posted on 06/24/2004 9:30:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl

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