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The United States: "They Aren't What They Used to Be"
Joseph Sobran column ^ | 05-28-04 | Sobran, Joseph

Posted on 06/14/2004 5:16:34 AM PDT by Theodore R.

They Aren’t What They Used to Be

May 27, 2004

If I had to sum up American history in one sentence, I’d put it this way: The United States aren’t what they used to be.

That’s not nostalgia. That’s literal fact. Before the Civil War, the United States was a plural noun. The U.S. Constitution uses the plural form when, for example, it refers to enemies of the United States as “their” enemies. And this was the usage of everyone who understood that the union was a voluntary federation of sovereign states, delegating only a few specified powers, and not the monolithic, “consolidated,” all-powerful government it has since become.

Maybe Americans prefer the present megastate to the one the Constitution describes. But they ought to know the difference. They shouldn’t assume that the plural United States were essentially the same thing as today’s United State, or that the one naturally “evolved” into the other.

The change was violent, not natural. Lincoln waged war on states that tried to withdraw from the Union, denying their right to do so. This was a denial of the Declaration of Independence, which called the 13 former colonies “Free and Independent States.”

Washington and Jefferson at times expressed their fear that some states might secede, but they took for granted that this was the right of any free and independent state. They advised against exercising that right except under serious provocation, but they assumed it was a legitimate option against the threat of a centralized government that exceeded its constitutional powers.

Before the Civil War, several states considered leaving the Union, and abolitionists urged Northern states to do so in order to end their association with slave states. Congressman John Quincy Adams, a former president, wanted Massachusetts to secede if Texas was admitted to the Union. Nobody suggested that Adams didn’t understand the Constitution he was sworn to uphold.

But the danger to the states’ independence was already growing. Andrew Jackson had threatened to invade South Carolina if it seceded, shocking even so ardent a Unionist as Daniel Webster. Jackson didn’t explain where he got the power to prevent secession, a power not assigned to the president in the Constitution. Why not? For the simple reason that the Constitution doesn’t forbid secession; it presupposes that the United States are, each of them, free and independent.

Still, Lincoln used Jackson’s threat as a precedent for equating secession with “rebellion” and using force to crush it. This required him to do violence to the Constitution in several ways. He destroyed the freedoms of speech and press in the North; he arbitrarily arrested thousands, including elected officials who opposed him; he not only invaded the seceding states, but deposed their governments and imposed military dictatorships in their place.

In essence, Lincoln made it a crime — “treason,” in fact — to agree with Jefferson. Northerners who held that free and independent states had the right to leave the Union — and who therefore thought Lincoln’s war was wrong — became, in Lincoln’s mind, the enemy within. In order to win the war, and reelection, he had to shut them up. But his reign of terror in the North has received little attention.

He may have “saved the Union,” after a fashion, but the Union he saved was radically different from the one described in the Constitution. Even his defenders admit that when they praise him for creating “a new Constitution” and forging “a second American Revolution.” Lincoln would have been embarrassed by these compliments: He always insisted he was only enforcing and conserving the Constitution as it was written, though the U.S. Supreme Court, including his own appointees, later ruled many of his acts unconstitutional.

The Civil War completely changed the basic relation between the states, including the Northern states, and the Federal Government. For all practical purposes, the states ceased to be free and independent.

Sentimental myths about Lincoln and the war still obscure the nature of the fundamental rupture they brought to American history. The old federal Union was transformed into the kind of “consolidated” system the Constitution was meant to avoid. The former plurality of states became a single unit. Even our grammar reflects the change.

So the United States were no longer a “they”; they’d become an “it.” Few Americans realize the immense cost in blood, liberty, and even logic that lies behind this simple change of pronouns.

Joseph Sobran


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abolitionism; centralgovt; civilliberties; civilwar; constitution; danielwebster; dixielist; jackson; jefferson; jqadams; liberalism; limitedgovt; lincoln; megastate; savedtheunion; secession; sobran; usa
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To: rbmillerjr
Maybe you should read a little further down the document...

Article IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article X.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
21 posted on 06/14/2004 6:02:50 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: longtermmemmory

Prior to FDR, there were different currencies. To print notes, one needed to be a member of the National Association and have sufficient reserves in legal tender.

http://www.friesian.com/notes.htm


22 posted on 06/14/2004 6:10:45 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Theodore R.

Maybe Americans prefer the present megastate to the one the Constitution describes>>

Because the one the Constitution describes allowed human beings to be sold as slaves.

Sobran is not a conservative and should be vomited out of the mouth of the Right.


23 posted on 06/14/2004 6:10:51 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: *dixie_list; sionnsar; Free Trapper; dcwusmc; Wampus SC; Fiddlstix; Southron Patriot; ...

Sobran ping


24 posted on 06/14/2004 6:11:44 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: norton

FACT of the matter is that Mr. Snodgrass, like everyone of us, lost his individual rights to Lincoln's concept of union.>>>

And thanks be to the Risen Jesus Christ therefore, as we no longer think that black people are the moral equivalent of xerox machines.


25 posted on 06/14/2004 6:11:50 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Because the one the Constitution describes allowed human beings to be sold as slaves.

as we no longer think that black people are the moral equivalent of xerox machines.

Rape and murder are not addressed in the Constitution, as slavery was not addressed previous to the 13th amendment in late 1865.

Does that mean the United States is a nation of rapists and murderers?
26 posted on 06/14/2004 6:17:24 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: babyface00

Does that mean the United States is a nation of rapists and murderers?>>

That has to be stupid as hell. Rape and murder was illegal on the state level. Slavery was encouraged--in fact 11 states decided to burn themselves to the ground rather than give it up.

The evil stupidity of the true sons of the slave rapers never ceases to amaze me.


27 posted on 06/14/2004 6:19:43 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones

You need to divorce secession and slavery, then the piece will make sense.


28 posted on 06/14/2004 6:21:48 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: rbmillerjr
If the southern state Delegates to the Constitutional Convention wanted the right to secede - they should have put it in the Constitution.

So, you agree with those who hold that your rights are the few listed in the Constitution? Here I thought that the Constitution enumerated certain specific powers granted to the Federal government.

29 posted on 06/14/2004 6:23:56 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
That has to be stupid as hell. Rape and murder was illegal on the state level. Slavery was encouraged--in fact 11 states decided to burn themselves to the ground rather than give it up.

The evil stupidity of the true sons of the slave rapers never ceases to amaze me.


There is nothing in the Constitution (which is a document solely to define the FEDERAL government) that prohibits states from making murder or rape illegal. It is a moral question, just as slavery is/was. The very fact that slavery was illegal in the states other than the 11 illustrates the flexibility inherent in the document.

Abortion is another moral question that was resolved at the state level previous to Roe v. Wade.

The fact that the Constitution left the moral question of slavery open to the states does not make the document somehow immoral, nor does it make defenders of that arrangement immoral.

Your anger is misplaced. The Constitution isn't some arbiter of morality over every facet of our lives. It only serves to define the limits of the federal government. Nothing more, nothing less.
30 posted on 06/14/2004 6:24:30 AM PDT by babyface00
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
The evil stupidity of the true sons of the slave rapers never ceases to amaze me.

So, how do you feel about the genocide and ethnic cleansing committed against the native Americans?

31 posted on 06/14/2004 6:27:24 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Vigilantcitizen

So, how do you feel about the genocide and ethnic cleansing committed against the native Americans?
>>

1) All those that committed that crime against humanity are dead.

2) Nobody around here is advocating wiping out the Indians any more.

3) I've never met an anti-Indian racist, much less one that hides his race hate behind an anti-Lincoln stance.


32 posted on 06/14/2004 6:30:09 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: babyface00

Abortion is another moral question that was resolved at the state level previous to Roe v. Wade.>>

Bullspit. The inherent equality before the law of all men (which predates the Constitution and is enshrined in the Declaration of Independence) REQUIRES that no man be allowed to kill, or enslave, or abort, another.

Abortion will be destroyed nationwide the same way that slavery was, through constitutional amendment and enforcement of the Constitution throughout the land.


33 posted on 06/14/2004 6:32:29 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: Theodore R.
Few Americans realize the immense cost in blood, liberty, and even logic that lies behind this simple change of pronouns.

Sadly, this is all too true.

34 posted on 06/14/2004 6:32:31 AM PDT by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones

2) Nobody around here is advocating wiping out the Indians any more.>>>

That is, until they become Muslims.


35 posted on 06/14/2004 6:33:09 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: zeugma

Sadly, this is all too true.
>>

It is also irrelevant. Any state that sells human beings as slaves DESERVES to meet its Sherman.


36 posted on 06/14/2004 6:33:55 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (truth is truth)
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To: Theodore R.

Truer words have never been spoken [or written]!
The Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves over what the Nation they gave us morphed into.


37 posted on 06/14/2004 6:34:45 AM PDT by sport (bttt)
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To: cardinal4
I am starting to have my doubts about the US. Heaven forbid that 'Hanoi John' F`n Kerry wins, but just the fact that he remains close to President Bush tells me that people in the US cannot stomach a war with casualties. People have forgotten 911, this shows weakness in the eyes of the Terrorists, expect more of 911 when you show weakness...If the US losses this war (PC war), then the US will never win another, unless it is a war of total annihilation.
38 posted on 06/14/2004 6:35:26 AM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (No time for wobbly knees.)
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To: cardinal4

We still are united, despite what Dan Rather, CNN and John Kerry say..



2 posted on 06/14/2004 5:19:54 AM PDT by cardinal4


I am not united with,nor do I want to be united with the sociaists, one worlders, communists, democrats,Bush haters,u.n. worshippers, and others whose sole purpose for living is the complete and total destruction of the United States.


39 posted on 06/14/2004 6:40:02 AM PDT by sport (bttt)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
1) All those that committed that crime against humanity are dead.

So are the slaves and slavers. Thanks for making my point for me. You did good.

2) Nobody around here is advocating wiping out the Indians any more.

That's probably because we as a nation have already wiped them out, for the most part.

3) I've never met an anti-Indian racist, much less one that hides his race hate behind an anti-Lincoln stance.

Refer to answer number 2.

40 posted on 06/14/2004 6:47:31 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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