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U.S. Said to Give Iraq Saddam in 2 Weeks ["and all other detainees"]
Associated Press ^ | June 14, 2004 | Fisnik Abrashi

Posted on 06/14/2004 4:27:45 PM PDT by AntiGuv

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The United States will hand over Saddam Hussein and all other detainees to Iraq's new government over the next two weeks as sovereignty is restored, the interim prime minister said Monday.

U.S. officials have said they plan to continue to hold up to 5,000 prisoners deemed a threat to the coalition even after the restoration of Iraqi sovereignty at the end of this month. They say as many as 1,400 detainees will either be released or transferred to Iraqi authorities.

However, in an interview with Al-Jazeera television, Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said Iraqi officials expect to take possession of Saddam and all other detainees with the transfer of power.

"All the detainees will be transferred to the Iraqi authorities and the transporting operation will be done within the two coming weeks," Allawi said. "Saddam and the others will be delivered to the Iraqis."

He said the former Iraqi president would stand trial "as soon as possible" but gave no specific timeframe. The detainees and "Saddam as well will be handed to the Iraqi government, and you can consider this as an official confirmation," he added.

Saddam has been in American custody at an undisclosed location in Iraq since his capture last December near Tikrit. His status has been under discussion as the formal end of the U.S.-led occupation approaches.

In Geneva, the spokeswoman of the International Committee of the Red Cross said coalition authorities must file criminal charges against Saddam or let him go when sovereignty is transferred.

Under international and military law, prisoners of war and civilian internees are supposed to be freed at the end of the conflict and occupation, unless there are charges against them, Red Cross spokeswoman Nada Doumani said.

Saddam was granted prisoner of war status after his capture. Although he is alleged to have committed crimes against his own people, he has not been charged with any offense.

"If he is not charged, then the law says that at the end of war, of occupation, he should be released," Doumani told Associated Press Television News.

In Geneva, the chief spokeswoman of the international Red Cross, Antonella Notari, said the organization was not calling for Saddam's release but simply stating the rules under international law.

"We're not making any ultimatums or calls for release," Notari said. "What we're saying is: Saddam Hussein, as far as we understand today, is a POW, prisoner of war, protected by the third Geneva Convention as all prisoners of war are.

"In theory, when a war ends and when an occupation ends, the detaining force has to release prisoners of war or civilian detainees if there are no reasons for holding them," she said.

But Notari added that "a prisoner of war who is suspected of having committed a crime must not just be released. Of course, he must be prosecuted, tried, through a legal proceeding."

She said it was up to U.S. authorities to decide what they will do about Saddam — whether to charge him, or hand him over to the Iraqis for trial.

Although Iraqis will run their own affairs after June 30, tens of thousands of coalition troops will remain in the country to maintain security under a resolution approved unanimously last week by the U.N. Security Council.

After the handover of sovereignty, detainees held by the Iraqi authorities will be subject to Iraqi law.

Mohammed Rashdan, a Jordanian attorney who claims to represent Saddam, said the Red Cross's stand "violates international and military law."

"Under the provisions of international laws and conventions, ICRC should have only called for Saddam Hussein's release," Rashdan told The Associated Press in neighboring Jordan.

He accused the Red Cross of serving the United States "in every possible way."

"The ICRC should help Saddam's defense lawyers to meet with him — the minimum requirement of the due process in developed nations," Rashdan said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: handover; iraq; iraqijustice; prisonersaddam; saddam
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1 posted on 06/14/2004 4:27:46 PM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv

They'd better try and dispose of him quickly, or else I have no doubt a band of insurgents will manage to free him. Then Iraq's worst nightmare will come back, and likely ours, too.


2 posted on 06/14/2004 4:32:45 PM PDT by william clark
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To: AntiGuv

3 posted on 06/14/2004 4:35:05 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: AntiGuv

If the Iraqis lose Saddam, Bush is totally toast.


4 posted on 06/14/2004 4:36:31 PM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: william clark
That is actually my nightmare scenario at present. It wouldn't even necessarily take a "band of insurgents" to free him. If the wrong guy comes to the wrong position of power in the provisional government (and can call upon some fraction of Iraqi police as Saddam sympathizers - surely this fraction exists), he just announces that on behalf of the new Iraqi government he's decided that there are no further legal grounds to hold Saddam, so that he's free.

Imagine Saddam standing for election in the new government.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

5 posted on 06/14/2004 4:37:26 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Maceman
If the Iraqis lose Saddam, Bush is totally toast.

They won't lose him. They are going to kill him.

6 posted on 06/14/2004 4:37:40 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (HEH!..HEH!..HEH!..The mighty Lakers are DOOMED!)
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To: william clark

I have a bad feeling we're going to rue the day that we captured that bastard ALIVE.


7 posted on 06/14/2004 4:38:04 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: AntiGuv
I go to the Red Cross for legal advice, and to my attorney when I need a blood transfusion.

It only makes sense.

8 posted on 06/14/2004 4:38:05 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Graybeard58

there is a lot of risk for the US in doing this. Its not just Saddam, they could release "lesser" people like Tariq Aziz. This has the potential to be a disaster.


9 posted on 06/14/2004 4:39:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Graybeard58

"They won't lose him. They are going to kill him."

Where is Jachmed al-Ruby when you need him?


10 posted on 06/14/2004 4:39:43 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: AntiGuv

I think maybe we should do just what the Red Cross wants.

Release Saddam on June 30th.

To the new Iraqi government.

In down town Baghdad.

By parachute. (Think piñata, or skeet).

Security is the Iraqi's problem...


11 posted on 06/14/2004 4:42:58 PM PDT by null and void (History is not a tale of self-restraint, and change is accelerating all the time.)
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To: AntiGuv
In Geneva, the spokeswoman of the International Committee of the Red Cross said coalition authorities must file criminal charges against Saddam or let him go when sovereignty is transferred

ROTFLMAO!

They said what!!!!

ROTFLMAO!

Is this from the Onion?

12 posted on 06/14/2004 4:44:33 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Graybeard58
If the Iraqis lose Saddam, Bush is totally toast.

They won't lose him. They are going to kill him.

That what I was thinking, a public execution most likely!

13 posted on 06/14/2004 4:47:28 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: oceanview
It's extremely unlikely that Saddam will even change jail cells after he's handed over to the Iraqis. He probably won't even change prison guards.

If Saddam were to be released, every one in the new government would face increased danger, and if Saddam ever regained control, they'd be dead.

So, quit worrying. This is more ceremonial than anything.

14 posted on 06/14/2004 4:53:38 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: william clark

"They'd better try and dispose of him quickly, or else I have no doubt a band of insurgents will manage to free him."
Well, one might give him something carcinogenic now just in case.


15 posted on 06/14/2004 4:54:28 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: oceanview
there is a lot of risk for the US in doing this.

I think you're right. I am only hoping that we know releasing him is a "sure thing" and that he will be promptly tried (and convicted). But my personal fear is that he will get right back into power, especially with the fragmentation that exists in Iraq now. And then he'll be ten times stronger than ever.

16 posted on 06/14/2004 5:06:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: Dog Gone
It's extremely unlikely that Saddam will even change jail cells after he's handed over to the Iraqis.

How do you figure that? Saddam is currently held in Qatar if I recall correctly.

17 posted on 06/14/2004 5:12:12 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: livius
But my personal fear is that he will get right back into power

I think you can stop worrying about this. My fear is that he gets picked for Veep by Kerry and they win.

18 posted on 06/14/2004 5:13:22 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The Four Pillars of America; Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Reagan)
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To: livius

Saddam:" Send me to Gitmo and I'll spill my guts"..........


19 posted on 06/14/2004 5:13:29 PM PDT by ChEng
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To: AntiGuv

he is at the prison near the Baghdad airport I thought.


20 posted on 06/14/2004 5:16:07 PM PDT by oceanview
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