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Bitter at the Top(David Brooks)
NY Times ^ | June 15, 2004 | David Brooks

Posted on 06/14/2004 9:58:03 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 06/14/2004 9:58:04 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

For one, the choice of the word "professionals" is a mistake. IIRC, true professionals are only doctors, lawyers, and ....forgot the 3rd...lil help?

Also there's this: "The members of the aristocracy of mind produce ideas, and pass along knowledge"

I haven't seen any new ideas or knowledge from the Left. They have spewed hate and vile instead of presenting constructive policy alternatives. I deal with alot of these types in MD - most are ignorant of the most basic facts re world events.

The last Great Idea was Reagan's Revolution. Liberal dogma & culture has never fully recovered from it. The NYT and its writers continue to be perplexed that America doens't "get" their message. Perhaps they flatter themselves too much.


2 posted on 06/14/2004 10:06:25 PM PDT by Fenris6
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To: neverdem
Brooks and his fellow dildoes assume, for no readily apparent reason, that THEY are the aristocracy of ''mind''.

Kwap, absolute kwap.

Any bloody day they like, I'll spot any of these filth 30 pts on a standardised IQ test and blow their intellectually inferior DOORS off.

And, the really scary part is that someone who is truly intelligent might likely do the same to me, on the same test.

NEVER assume, and NEVER act on the assumption, that you're the smartest person on the block. A lesson this arrogant bozo and his fellows have never learnt. (What a shock, eh?)

3 posted on 06/14/2004 10:07:48 PM PDT by SAJ (Buy 2 NGG05 9.00 calls, Sell 5 NGG05 12.00 calls against, for $1.000 net credit OB. Mortal lock.)
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To: Fenris6
For one, the choice of the word "professionals" is a mistake. IIRC, true professionals are only doctors, lawyers, and ....forgot the 3rd...lil help?

Brooks mentioned them: architects.

Also there's this: "The members of the aristocracy of mind produce ideas, and pass along knowledge"

"Managers are more likely to value leaders whom they see as simple, straight-talking men and women of faith. They prize leaders who are good at managing people, not just ideas. They are more likely to distrust those who seem overly intellectual or narcissistically self-reflective."

The operative word is "seem." These people aren't at all intellectual. Their tagline should be, "I'm not an intellectual, but I play one on TV." And that was a cute use by Brooks of "nuanced," but the judgments of virtually all socialist "intellectuals" are standardized, off-the-rack hackery.

5 posted on 06/14/2004 10:18:12 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: Fenris6

"forgot the 3rd...lil help? "

Accountants, no? CPAs that is. They've got a code of conduct and everything. And like the other two groups, they're always "practicing".

I work for lawyers now, how foolish I was to stop bookkeeping for accountants. That was truly the easiest job I have ever had.


6 posted on 06/14/2004 10:20:04 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: SAJ
There is a word for them: "antillectual".
A lot of pretense in antillectual field and a well-deserved inferiority complex: it is far from easy to produce any idea which is not a 645th variation on something which in its own time was a new idea and even worked for a while. Most of INTELLECTUAL progress, when it does happen, is by its very nature incremental, with properly intellectual contribution from its creators being relatively modest.
Revolutionary intellectual developments (like development in physics ca. 1926) happen rarely, with the number of geniuses involved being small.
So what is a run-of-the-mill antillectual to do besides to turn green with envy and then to get puffed up with self-importance?
7 posted on 06/14/2004 10:26:35 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: neverdem

The way you resolve the natural conflict between intellectuals and the rest is "liberty". Intellectuals must lead by persuading and teaching. They must never be granted any authority beyond what they can earn in an even match with anyone else. Our grandfathers didn't die to build an oligarchy of the pointed heads.


8 posted on 06/14/2004 10:40:08 PM PDT by marron
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To: Fenris6
"For one, the choice of the word "professionals" is a mistake. IIRC, true professionals are only doctors, lawyers, and ....forgot the 3rd...lil help?"

Teaching used to be considered a profession before the unions got involved.

9 posted on 06/14/2004 10:42:50 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Fenris6; SAJ; All

Third type, maybe I would expand that a little and include engineers, those in the hard sciences and math, and some in the social sciences who deal in the real world as it is, not what they wish it to be, e.g. Abigail Thernstrom(sp?) or Samuel Huntington. The vast majority who spout the party line in the social sciences strike me as poseurs.

BTW, the author David Brooks is a conservative who used to work at the Weekly Standard.


10 posted on 06/14/2004 11:06:35 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Yehuda
DECORATORS?

Why not? They probably are less than the mean of a normal distribution plus or minus two standard deviations. They are abnormally gifted. /sarcasm

11 posted on 06/14/2004 11:26:45 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
BTW, the author David Brooks is a conservative who used to work at the Weekly Standard.

I thought he turned a while back.

12 posted on 06/14/2004 11:29:45 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: stands2reason

Yes he was seduced by the dark side. Writing for the NY Times is a clue.


13 posted on 06/14/2004 11:47:49 PM PDT by xp38
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To: neverdem
BTW, I never once claimed Brooks was either ''conservative'' or ''liberal'' or, ftm, ''chartreuse''. I labelled him, quite accurately, as a (metaphorical, one would wish to presume) dildo.

No matter his political views, from this article (and others I've seen from his pen) he is certainly a phony and almost unquestionably a pr*ck, hence a dildo by definition.

''Intellectual elite'', my great aunt Sadie. For membership in this soi-sidant ''elite'', all one has to do is to talk frequently enough with some number of the similarly self-anointed, to the point where one is granted ''elite'' status by the other dildoes and dildettes.

''Oooohhh, I read avant-garde 'literature' with no plot, no cohesion, no characters...I'm of the ''elite'', dontchasee?''

''Well, the notion that a person must produce in order to consume is just a bourgeois misconception left over from a century ago. The purpose of society, as any intellectual will tell you, is to provide for those who will not provide for themselves.'' (...borrowed freely from Rand, this is)

''Property? How can there be private property when there is need? Does your ''property right'' to a piece of land outweigh the ABSOLUTE right of some other person to eat? Yes, absolute. Even if his right requires the sacrifice of your property.''

How does that old saying go (I won't get it right, sorry)?

''It's only an intellectual who can say such stupid things.''

And Brooks and his fellow dildoes qualify...in spades.

14 posted on 06/15/2004 12:08:22 AM PDT by SAJ (Buy 2 NGG05 9.00 calls, Sell 5 NGG05 12.00 calls against, for $1.000 net credit OB. Mortal lock.)
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To: stands2reason
I thought he turned a while back.

He counters Mark Shields from CNN's Crossfire on PBS's Newshour every Friday and when PBS has overt political coverage. The Times is probably prepping him for Safire's retirement.

15 posted on 06/15/2004 12:18:33 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Yehuda

"teachers, lawyers, architects, academics, journalists, therapists, decorators..."

He left out dog groomers.


16 posted on 06/15/2004 12:36:50 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: stands2reason
I thought he turned a while back.

Are you thinking of David Brock?

17 posted on 06/15/2004 1:28:47 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: SAJ
Brooks and his fellow dildoes assume, for no readily apparent reason, that THEY are the aristocracy of ''mind''.

It seems to me that Brooks is trying to make a valid distinction between pubbies who are practical and value loyalty and rats who are theoretical and only care about winning, regardless. I can't understand your hostility other than its a visceral hatred of anything associated with New York.

18 posted on 06/15/2004 1:36:30 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: SAJ

Is there some confusion between David Brooks and David Brock, the former writer for the American Spectator and tormentor of Clinton, who flipped to the left after his homosexuality was disclosed?


19 posted on 06/15/2004 1:43:24 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: jennyp

Thanks for the reminder.


20 posted on 06/15/2004 1:44:21 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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