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1 posted on 06/15/2004 8:13:10 AM PDT by KMC1
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2 posted on 06/15/2004 8:14:37 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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Why am I not surprised that the LA Slimes would do this?


4 posted on 06/15/2004 8:17:23 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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POLLS by the media are nothing but a free ticket to circumvent the election laws as to money spent by the slimey lib's. It was practically invented by the slimey Clinton mob.


5 posted on 06/15/2004 8:19:27 AM PDT by Uncle George
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And this little tidbit of news actually surprises people????

It actually upsets and concerns some of our fellow Freepers????

Why?

Why does anything the LA Times says or prints worry anyone here???

I don't understand...it's a biased, lying, fantasy rag little better than the National Inquirer.

In fact, the Inquirer says that Kerry is favored over Bush by most Martians!

Just about as meaningful!

Come on folks....get real! Just disregard anything coming from the LA Times.


7 posted on 06/15/2004 8:25:21 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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LA Times unfair!!!!

Say it ain't so!!!


8 posted on 06/15/2004 8:25:41 AM PDT by Bean Counter
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Bump to spread the word


10 posted on 06/15/2004 8:30:38 AM PDT by aquila48
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somebody with more math brains than me (and that is a lot of you) if 38% were demos and 25% were pubs and kerry had a 7% lead, what would the "lead" be if the poll was 50-50 demos and pubs?


11 posted on 06/15/2004 8:32:38 AM PDT by SF Republican
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bump


13 posted on 06/15/2004 8:32:46 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I stood up and fought against Ronald Reagan's illegal war in Central America." -John Kerry)
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It is a sad day for free and honest elections when the printed and TV media tries to elect a person of low quality.Kerry is a person that has skirted the laws of this country all of his adult life.But the media will spend BILLIONS to elect someone they can make policy for.
15 posted on 06/15/2004 8:35:06 AM PDT by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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L.A. TIMES POLL DISHONEST

And in other news, the Pope is reported to be Catholic...

16 posted on 06/15/2004 8:36:31 AM PDT by Begin (RIP RWR 1911-2004)
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Why are you overlooking another possibility? Gross incompetence. It wouldnt be the first time someone screwed up and forgot to control the sample. I really doubt they set out to find 38% Dems and 25% Republicans. I think it just happened and if they noticed it in the data, they buried it in order to satisfy the editors desire to run with story.


19 posted on 06/15/2004 8:48:01 AM PDT by Dave S
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"L.A. TIMES POLL DISHONEST"
20 posted on 06/15/2004 8:52:32 AM PDT by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of charity that you receive.)
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BFD.

Anyone with a memory can recall how thoroughly jimmeh cahtah was thrashing Ronald Reagan in Big Media's polls of summer '80.

And who can forget the flaying-by-poll Walter Mondale conducted against Ronald Reagan through Big Media in summer '84!

Not to mention the coming Dukakis landslide promised by Big Media polls the summer of '88.

I recall Big Media pollsters of '92 debating whether Perot support was coming from Clinton or Bush voters!

Who can forget the tight contests Big Media polls were calling for in what became the '94 Republican sweep?

Big Media pollers predicted a klyntyn landslide in '96!

I remember Big Media polls in '02 elections calling for Republican losses!

And now, Big Media poll pimps say that Kerry is ahead!/neck and neck!/gaining!

Big Media does not poll-they Push Poll.

Draw the opposite conclusion from the Big Media agitprop and you'll always be correct.

Oh, and one more thing- Do not buy their product in any form. You watch/read them- you support them.

AV

22 posted on 06/15/2004 8:58:53 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit (Have a look: http://www.volcanicfishermen.com)
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BFD.

Anyone with a memory can recall how thoroughly jimmeh cahtah was thrashing Ronald Reagan in Big Media's polls of summer '80.

And who can forget the flaying-by-poll Walter Mondale conducted against Ronald Reagan through Big Media in summer '84!

Not to mention the coming Dukakis landslide promised by Big Media polls the summer of '88.

I recall Big Media pollsters of '92 debating whether Perot support was coming from Clinton or Bush voters!

Who can forget the tight contests Big Media polls were calling for in what became the '94 Republican sweep?

Big Media pollers predicted a klyntyn landslide in '96!

I remember Big Media polls in '02 elections calling for Republican losses!

And now, Big Media poll pimps say that Kerry is ahead!/neck and neck!/gaining!

Big Media does not poll-they Push Poll.

Draw the opposite conclusion from the Big Media agitprop and you'll always be correct.

Oh, and one more thing:

Do not buy their product in any form. You watch/read them= you support them.

AV

23 posted on 06/15/2004 8:59:59 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit (Have a look: http://www.volcanicfishermen.com)
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L.A. TIMES POLL DISHONEST

BEAR CRAPS IN WOODS

26 posted on 06/15/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT by pogo101
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Gee whiz, doncha think this should have been posted under "Breaking News?"


30 posted on 06/15/2004 9:58:00 AM PDT by Redbob (we're going to miss you, Ronnie!)
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Pollaganda strikes again.


31 posted on 06/15/2004 10:06:04 AM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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A question for all of you:

Do slanted polls do anything?

A strong, active Republican or Democrat would vote for his or her candidate even if the polls showed 95-5% against him. What effect do polls have on apolitical, busy, barely interested Americans who DO bother to vote?

If you lean Democrat but you aren't married to Kerry, are you less likely or more likely to vote for him if he is leading in what you believe are true polls? Some would say that you hop aboard the winner's bandwagon, but others might think you'd lean toward an underdog.

I am not sure that the Times and other sources of push polls have thought the psychology of this any farther through than just making Democrats smile as they read their morning paper.

33 posted on 06/15/2004 10:18:47 AM PDT by Yaelle
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LA Times poll dishonest? ::::gasp!::::: It just can't be!


35 posted on 06/15/2004 10:22:18 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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Because I'm skeptical of all polls, this most certainly doesn't surprise me. Agenda-driven manipulation of polls is far, far more common than many people may realize.


36 posted on 06/15/2004 10:27:51 AM PDT by Wolfstar (He slipped the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of God. Thank you President Reagan.)
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