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Post Office will be opening your Media Mail
My Post Office ^ | 6/15/2004 | gasshog

Posted on 06/15/2004 2:57:43 PM PDT by Gasshog

The clerk at my local Post Office gave me this bit of news today. It is also being talked about on the eBay Boards. USPS is going to open and check every bit of "Media mail" (used to be book rate) to make sure the packages dont contain anything that is not allowed by the regulations. Here is what the clerk told me today: At first they issued a notice that anyone with Media mail had to bring it in UNSEALED before that would accept it, then the clerk told me that they changed that directive so the clerks had to open the mail themselves. He told me that he had personally opened packages that day. And he still wasn't sure if that was the final directive...they may go to "checking" Media mail at the main Post Office (Louisville, KY).

I didn't find anything on the USPS website to support what he told me and I checked Google as well. The USPS latest News releases are strangely silent about this new invasion of people's privacy.


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To: Gasshog
I don't buy this for a second. The US Postal Service ships WAY TO MANY packages to sit around and open and reseal them.

I just mailed a book last Wednesday that I sold on Amazon.com using media mail, and the clerk never mentioned any changes.
21 posted on 06/15/2004 3:12:56 PM PDT by zencat (Visit my profile for MAGNETIC Bush/Cheney '04 bumper stickers!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

So I am still going to get the AOL disks.


22 posted on 06/15/2004 3:13:57 PM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: MizSterious

That can't be right. The USPS site (see above) specifies no advertising (i.e. catalogues), but does not exclude invoice/packing slips. I don't see how they can do that.


23 posted on 06/15/2004 3:18:52 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Military family member

I'm guessing the AOL disks are being sent Bulk Rate, which is completely different than Media Mail.


24 posted on 06/15/2004 3:20:02 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Gasshog

"The USPS latest News releases are strangely silent about this new invasion of people's privacy."

I am not sure there is any expectation of privacy shipping packages through the mail. The Postal Service has some fairly broad powers to open and inspect an awful lot of things, including UPS and FEDEx overnight packages in fedex and UPS facilities. This was actually done several years ago, though the backlash was sharp and the rule was not invoked again.


25 posted on 06/15/2004 3:20:58 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Gasshog

Just 15 minutes ago I picked up a package from a friend that had "Media Mail" stamped on it -- I had never heard this term before -- and sure enough, it had been opened -- part of the wrapping was ripped. So I am here to verify your story. Also proves you can get all the news you need at FR.


26 posted on 06/15/2004 3:21:40 PM PDT by speedy
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To: zencat

I agree, the volume of mail to open is mind-numbing. I just reported what the local clerk told me. It is a small town P.O. so they might be able to open everything "media" in such a location.

I have also heard the "inspections" are random which would be more feasible. I still think it is just a thinly veiled tactic to get people to use the higher priced services. There are some eBay users that are pretty hot about this, the ones who make a living selling DVDs, videos and vinyl records.


27 posted on 06/15/2004 3:31:25 PM PDT by Gasshog (eyes open, mouth too! tough!)
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To: Xenalyte
I ordered a rosary from Canada on eBay and the package arrived empty. The seller sent me another rosary to compensate and she wrapped it VERY well in a plastic bag with tin foil overlapped with about 20 rotations of duct tape in a padded bag lined with extra padding. The bag arrived fulled opened and a note from the customs / drug inspections saying they opened it.

What a surprise they must have had. Expecting drugs and finding a rosary.

28 posted on 06/15/2004 3:32:37 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: KarlInOhio
Can anybody confirm that private shipping like UPS can not ship at a lower price then the USPS.

We need to privatize our postal services?
With privatization, we probably could shipp all 10 pound packages for $4.84

29 posted on 06/15/2004 3:33:57 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

I believe the justification is that invoices and packing slips have to be mailed first class. If part of the package has to be mailed first class, then all of the package has to be mailed first class (there are some exceptions).


30 posted on 06/15/2004 3:34:43 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Xenalyte

We ship antiques Priority Mail and old books Media Mail all over the world after selling them on ebay. Our Postal guy is to lazy to open them, but he does ask what we are sending and he has said they can be opened to inspect them. He tells us this with everything we mail. I just say, "yeah, yeah" and go on. He says some people try to take advantage of the Media Mail rates and send other stuff besides what they are supposed to be sending. It's old to us now.


31 posted on 06/15/2004 3:34:48 PM PDT by freedom4ever
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To: Gasshog

I send a lot of media mail as audiobooks on cassette and CDs sold on eBay. I have been grilled extensively at the PO for packages that are light but rattle (cassettes) and thin and light (CDs). Gone of the days of the old bookrate as the only "media".


32 posted on 06/15/2004 3:34:53 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Xenalyte

Better start putting some newspapers or paper towels on before the plastic unless you want those turkeys to sweat.


33 posted on 06/15/2004 3:35:06 PM PDT by Old Professer (lust; pure, visceral groin-grinding, sweat-popping, heart-pounding staccato bursts of shooting stars)
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To: Xenalyte

We ship antiques Priority Mail and old books Media Mail all over the world after selling them on ebay. Our Postal guy is to lazy to open them, but he does ask what we are sending and he has said they can be opened to inspect them. He tells us this with everything we mail. I just say, "yeah, yeah" and go on. He says some people try to take advantage of the Media Mail rates and send other stuff besides what they are supposed to be sending. It's old to us now.


34 posted on 06/15/2004 3:35:40 PM PDT by freedom4ever
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To: Gasshog
Wrap your media mail REALLY GOOD... if you put that little item in 10-12 sucessively larger boxes and use a roll of tape to seal it all up, get the picture?

When I got mine that was wrapped like this it came in a clear plastic bag and a note from customs that the package was unwrapped. They do not re-wrap.

35 posted on 06/15/2004 3:36:26 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Gasshog

This is just plain stupid. The local post office counter has been closed to the public in my Zip Code for about a year. Said they couldn't afford to keep it open. They already are only open 9-4, so anyone who works has a tough time getting there to handle any mailings they have.
This sounds like a push to get the public to pay more for other rate categories. Any way we look at it, they are violating my privacy with opening things, and items coming up missing. What insurance can be obtained on media mail rate?
Seems like the USPS has been going backward for quite some time. Whoever thought of this has a screw loose. If they want to x-ray or something because they are suspicious, that is entirely different from OPENING EVERY media mail item.
I sent a payment by priority mail a couple of weeks ago and was informed they wouldn't take it unless I had my return address on it. I am lazy about doing that. I was informed they would hold it up and open it and return it to me if I didn't put a return address on it. As you can expect, I was paying $3.85 to send a payment that was borderline late. Now they will hold it, open it, and return it????? Then it will really be late, and they will have gotten my $3.85. Arrongance, pure arrogance.


36 posted on 06/15/2004 3:43:53 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ReformedBeckite

I thought they had privatized the USPS a few years ago. Well, maybe not exactly "private" enterprise, but it has some sort of separation from the main part of "Government".


37 posted on 06/15/2004 3:45:44 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: HungarianGypsy
I'd be worried about getting an empty envelope mailed to me. "Hmm! I like this book.

Right. The prospects for rampant theft would seem to loom large with Postal Workers being able to see "whats inside" and decide whether they wanted to keep it or not!

More than likely every PO worker assigned to media mail inspection will have an GS-12 Overseer or some such person, so that the expense for carrying out this lunacy will be doubled at the least!

I posted this thread under Activism, because I think this practice, in whatever capacity it is being carried out -- should come to a swift halt. I know some people have NEVER even heard of Media mail, book rate or whatever but this is something that should be broadcast on the internet, in emails, etc.

If people take action maybe these morons at the USPS will think twice about HOW they try to manipulate the ones who keep them in business... US!

Sure, the media mail system is abused but is opening media mail packages, randomly or at all -- the answer??

Is this all designed to sabotage the media mail service so they can terminate it? I have to wonder.

(Note to Postal Workers: If you arent in the GS-series my apologies, I never worked for the post office!)
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38 posted on 06/15/2004 3:49:49 PM PDT by Gasshog (eyes open, mouth too! tough!)
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To: Xenalyte
Yo PJ, whatcha think of this?

I already mentioned this on another thread yesterday. Postal clerk opened my two Media Mail packages. Fortunately I had books in both. I guess some people were sneaking other items by in order to take advantage of the lower Media Mail rates.....or might it have something to do with world events?

39 posted on 06/15/2004 4:04:06 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: Xenalyte; pax_et_bonum; bobbyd
I didn't know you were an ebay'er. That's four HAT ebay'ers I know of.

I've had good luck and pitiful luck with books. Timing. . . it's all in the timing.

40 posted on 06/15/2004 4:08:08 PM PDT by Flyer (This dog bite me)
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