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1 posted on 06/16/2004 1:54:21 PM PDT by vannrox
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Science list ping (a subset of the evolution list). FReepmail me to be added or dropped.


2 posted on 06/16/2004 1:57:53 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yes, that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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I would imagine they are getting sick of hearing "Beam me up, Scotty" quips right about now.


3 posted on 06/16/2004 1:58:21 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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They don't really say in the article, but are they claiming that they have transferred information at a speed greater than the speed of light?

The "spooky entanglement" idea would seem to imply that it might be possible to do so, which brings up a lot of other weird problems.

4 posted on 06/16/2004 1:58:43 PM PDT by B Knotts
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This phenomenon is quite fascinating and hints at any number of remarkable possibilities. It also hints at a potentially vast realm of undiscovered physics. About two or three years ago I read a brief article about how they could use the spin in such atoms to instantly communicate across any distance using binary code. Someday that alone will be crucial to interstellar exploration.


5 posted on 06/16/2004 1:58:58 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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Help me! Hellllp me!
6 posted on 06/16/2004 1:59:55 PM PDT by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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Transporter technology is cool,
but I wish they'd work on the food replicators first.
7 posted on 06/16/2004 2:00:13 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all". Line from a comedy sketch. Bet no one knows which one.


9 posted on 06/16/2004 2:00:26 PM PDT by techcor
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After that, the fate of one particle instantly affects the other; if one particle is made to take on a certain set of properties, the other immediately takes on identical or opposite properties, no matter how far away it is and without any apparent physical connection to the first particle.

Ansible.
10 posted on 06/16/2004 2:00:41 PM PDT by aruanan
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I found another article about this here:

Teleportation breaks new ground

11 posted on 06/16/2004 2:01:31 PM PDT by B Knotts
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Basically, researchers can use lab techniques to create a weird relationship between pairs of tiny particles.

Are we talking about gay marriage at the sub-atomic level here?

12 posted on 06/16/2004 2:01:31 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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I don't think this bears any relationship to Star Trek transporters.


13 posted on 06/16/2004 2:03:59 PM PDT by Junior (Love isn't always on time. Sometimes you have to pay for it up front.)
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Stupid Physicist Tricks. Ways to get a scientist's name into the papers for his 15 minutes of fame.

Remember when they "teleported" a photon?

"How do you know you teleported it?"

"Well, the one over here is the same as the one over there, int it?"

...then they admitted that they had a 'spare' photon over "here" just hanging around...

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Teleporting macroscopic bits of matter would involve either:

(a) moving gigantic amounts of energy at speed-of-light or faster velocities, and not destroying your equipment;
(b) moving gigantic amounts of information at speed-of-light or faster velocities and then using a tank of "stuff" to rebuild whatever was teleported. Unless you want two (2) copies you must destroy the original (the scanning process might do that anyway), which means murdering Commander Ryker #1, which might present some wee legal complications. If you don't murder Commander Ryker #1, we have two of him, same fingerprints, same SSN, same address. #2 owns one-half of everything owned by number One, and he can prove it.

Given that converting a human body to pure energy would probably liberate enough energy to destroy the Earth, both modes sound a little unlikely.

--Boris

16 posted on 06/16/2004 2:04:34 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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Energize!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

17 posted on 06/16/2004 2:06:29 PM PDT by mhking
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Just a thought... if teleportation is possible, what happens to your intellect when your atoms get scrambled and reassembled? What about spirit? Does that get emailed as well? Like an attachment maybe?


18 posted on 06/16/2004 2:06:35 PM PDT by D_Idaho
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Some earlier threads (much earlier) related to this topic:
The Spooky Factor And Teleportation.
Teleportation Takes Another Step.
Quantum Teleportation and Computation.
19 posted on 06/16/2004 2:07:37 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yes, that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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Brian Greene's The Fabric of the Cosmos, that I'm reading now, covers this well. Good book!


26 posted on 06/16/2004 2:12:25 PM PDT by Monty22
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Star trek teleportation is quite a stretch. From everything I've read it would require computing power that may very well be out of reach forever.

It would require computing power that could know where ever atom in a body is and what it's doing at any given moment. It would also require that power to know where every atom is and what its doing at the target location. Then you have to be able to convert the matter to energy and back to matter.

I believed Carl Sagan called it the one Star Trek technology that is forever out of our reach.
27 posted on 06/16/2004 2:12:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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Call me when they get the 'Holodeck' and the '7 of 9 is your girlfriend' program working.


28 posted on 06/16/2004 2:15:01 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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Beam me out of prison.

34 posted on 06/16/2004 2:18:30 PM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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bump


39 posted on 06/16/2004 2:21:51 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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