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US “KNEW NOTHING” OF RUSSIAN WARNING
9.sbs.com.au ^ | 19.6.2004. 13:45:23 | World News

Posted on 06/18/2004 11:34:28 PM PDT by Destro

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To: Straight Vermonter

No kidding. Who exactly is, "The US"? I hardly think a few dinks at the State Department speak for the entire government.


21 posted on 06/19/2004 2:22:36 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (If we had some eggs, we could have bacon and eggs if we had some bacon. --unknown Freeper)
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To: ChocChipCookie
The State Dept thinks that THEY run the US.
Their bully agent, Zimmerman, has attacked our US researchers involved in energy researchfor years.
And for what reason?

They cannot be trusted, except to be traitors to the USA.

22 posted on 06/19/2004 3:27:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do only what we are meant to do)
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To: kevao

Psssst, keep this quiet.... the Whitehouse is aware of the "career" sentiment inside the Department of (altered) State! ;-)

LLS


23 posted on 06/19/2004 4:35:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("I'm mad as hell, and I'm not taking it anymore"!)
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To: Destro
I am not even sure why we still have a State Department. Ambassadors are a relic of the distant past, and many of their other functions can easily be assigned to Homeland Defense. Perhaps it is time to pull the plug on the department.

Oh, and yes, why would State need to know about Russian Intelligence? There was no need for them to be in the loop.
24 posted on 06/19/2004 4:45:41 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: AmericaUnited
The State Department should be nuked. :)

That's a touch severe. How about just recertifying the use of DDT in Foggy Bottom.

25 posted on 06/19/2004 4:56:14 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: patriciaruth
And the Brits still stand by their info on Saddam trying to buy uranium in Africa, whatever the pinkos at the state department say.

Recall that the CIAs analysts decided that it was "unlikely" to be true because Iraq had already acquired a hundred tons of yellow-cake from Niger, and probably didn't need more yet. Even if correct, it is hardly reassuring, and hardly a contradiction to Bush's point.

26 posted on 06/19/2004 5:40:02 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: harrowup

Powell should look into the Clinton-Andrea Mitchell Stae Dept. & clean up the mess.
May be Newt.will do it in 2nd Bush term.


27 posted on 06/19/2004 6:00:09 AM PDT by anita
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To: Destro

Perhaps if he is elected to a second term, Bush can clean up the state department.


28 posted on 06/19/2004 6:01:20 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Destro

The State Dept. is a pit.


29 posted on 06/19/2004 6:03:42 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Destro

Might explain to our Australian friends that the State Department is not the government, far from it. In fact, Most progress in the world, from the creation of Israel to the winning of the Cold War, has been made by working around the obstacles the Striped-pants Boys throw in the way.

If I were in the Executive branch and had sensitive information of this sort, I would keep it away from State also.


30 posted on 06/19/2004 6:08:58 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: kevao
I work with two retired career diplomats, one of whose spouse still works at State. I can affirm with all seriousness that the majority of State employees see GWB as a greater "threat" than our true enemies, who are are enemies soley because of GWB's "unilateralism". God help us.

NEWT was right again of course, In a second term GWB will have to clean the place up.

Perhaps Rudy would be a good Sec.

31 posted on 06/19/2004 7:38:27 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Destro
Mr Putin's surprise comments came just two days after a September 11 commission in Washington concluded there was no link between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda, one of the justifications used by US President George W Bush for invading Iraq.

Man these rats are either blind, dishonest, stupid or all of the above!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
32 posted on 06/19/2004 7:49:43 AM PDT by cjmae
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To: Destro

Towards the end of and after the Soviet-Afghan war State and Central Intelligence were at loggerheads over who to point our aid towards. State favored Masood and other non-islamist mujas, while CIA wanted to maintain the ISI-Hekmatyr pipeline.

Points being, they often do not work the same side of the street, and just because State didn't know about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Both sides work out of the same Embassies, and the proximity sometimes breeds intense competition.


33 posted on 06/19/2004 7:59:49 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Destro
Sounds like Putin has gotten an advanced copy of that new book called "Imperial Hubris" authored by 'Anonymous', and he wants to set the record straight to some in the deep dark bowels of our government bureaucracy.
34 posted on 06/19/2004 8:04:00 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Destro

"The Russians have not trusted the State Dept since the Kosovo war. They fear that if Kerry becomes president the State dept will resume its drive to take away Russia's near abroad - resumed support for the Chechens, Balkan Muslim extremists, etc."

Fascinating comment Destro, has some truth to it.
Kerry will be the best friend of the Muslim extremists, unwitting or not, and an enemry to Slavic European interests and Russian power in central asia.

Unfortunately that analysis makes it possible that Putin's comments are dis-info designed to help Bush.


35 posted on 06/19/2004 9:33:45 AM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Destro

"Instead the statement is made to seem as if the State Dept is rebuking Bush/Putin."

Indeed, as if the State Dept thinks they run the relationship and not the leaders! ... oh, the 'arrogance' of Bush and Putin to dare confer without going through the State Dept!

Some pinhead bureaucrat heads need to roll!


36 posted on 06/19/2004 9:36:03 AM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: MJY1288
What would the State Dept. do.... Scramble their diplomats?

If the Russians were to tell the State Department about a possible terrorist attack, the terrorists would find out we knew about their plans. I would imagine the Russians are well aware of this, which is why they didn't tell the State Dept.

37 posted on 06/19/2004 9:41:10 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ( "While I take inspiration from the past, like most Americans, I live for the future. " - R. Reagan)
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To: MJY1288

LOL!


38 posted on 06/19/2004 9:45:11 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: kevao

GOD HELP US ALL INDEED!

IDIOT TRAITORS AT STATE DEP have been selling us down the river for decades.


39 posted on 06/19/2004 9:46:50 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: MJY1288

Well, I think that part is fine. The State Dept is all about communication with foreign heads of state. It's just weird that the info fell off the face of the earth thereafter.


40 posted on 06/19/2004 9:48:20 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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