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Painting Sold At Church Auction Sells Again For $489,600 (pressured to donate part to Church)
WNNE ^ | June 18, 2004

Posted on 06/19/2004 11:46:35 PM PDT by Michael2001

DUBLIN, N.H. -- A group of friends who bought a painting for $3,200 at a church auction and then sold it for more than 150 times that price are being pressured to share some of the money.

Rick O'Connor and Roy Gandhi-Schwatlo, of Dublin, and Dawn Ward, of Rindge, purchased the painting at an August 2003 auction to benefit the Dublin Community Church. They later put the painting on the auction block at Sotheby's in New York, where it sold in January for $489,600.

The roughly 13-inch by 11½-inch panel of the Madonna and child turned out to be the lost third of a 14th-century triptych painted by an unknown Sienese artist. It was donated to the auction by Jessie Hale, of Dublin, whose family had owned it for nearly 100 years.

Word of the painting's worth has spread around town, and some residents say the buyers have a responsibility to donate some of their new fortune to Hale and the church.

"The whole thing's just unfortunately slimy," said Charles Pillsbury, who volunteered at the auction. "It's just too bad."

O'Connor was on the committee that organized the auction and was responsible for acquiring paintings for the auction. He said he never spoke with Hale about her painting, and no one in his group knew its real value before buying it.

"We were all friends and decided we would buy the painting," he said Thursday. "We just thought it would be a great investment."

O'Connor said he and his friends considered offering some of the money to Hale but may change their minds because of the hostility they've encountered.

"We're basically innocent people here," he said. "Do you come back after you buy something at a yard sale and tell the owner, 'Oh, geez, we've got to give you back half of everything we've made on this product?'"

As members of the auction committee, O'Connor and Gandhi-Schwatlo spent weeks putting together a successful event, said committee chairman Tom Blodgett.

He called them "honest and honorable people," adding, "I hope that they will rethink their situation and make a personal gesture to the Dublin community."

Hale declined to comment to The Union Leader of Manchester.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: art; catholic; christian
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This is a pretty interesting dilemma. If I had this type of windfall I'd probably donate some to the Church, but if I received this sort of hostility I might change my mind (as it seems that these guys might).
1 posted on 06/19/2004 11:46:36 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: Michael2001

The second it becomes involuntary, it's no longer a donation.


2 posted on 06/19/2004 11:52:40 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: Michael2001

3 posted on 06/19/2004 11:53:37 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Michael2001
I hope that they will rethink their situation and make a personal gesture to the Dublin community.

I can just imagine the personal gesture I'd make to the community, in this situation.
4 posted on 06/19/2004 11:55:00 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: Southack

Would a $ 100.00 be out of line, for the donation..


5 posted on 06/19/2004 11:57:27 PM PDT by BooBoo1000
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To: Michael2001
Rick O'Connor and Roy Gandhi-Schwatlo, of Dublin, and Dawn Ward, of Rindge, purchased the painting at an August 2003 auction to benefit the Dublin Community Church.

O'Connor was on the committee that organized the auction and was responsible for acquiring paintings for the auction.

There is a conflict of interest here. The guy is in charge of acquiring donated paintings for the church.

Here's my scenario:

1) Hale unknowingly donates expensive painting to church

2) O'Conner realizes that he may have an expensive painting on his hands. His duty is to get the best price for the church. This involves getting it appraised and informing all potential bidders of it's possible value. Instead, he tells no one except for his two friends. Sounds like fraud to me.

6 posted on 06/20/2004 12:07:11 AM PDT by opinionator
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To: Michael2001
It really matters what the details are here.

If the "organizers" asked for the original owner to bring in the painting for auction I'd be VERY suspicious.

Even if they didn't ask, if they knew (or suspected) the true value of the painting and didn't tell their "friend" that brought in for auction then they weren't much of a friend (or worse).

Total strangers is a different matter, but not all that different.

If, and that's a big if, they didn't have any idea of the true value of the painting and they risked their $3,200 in purchasing it to help the church. Then they don't owe anyone anything.

At least that's my opinion...
7 posted on 06/20/2004 12:12:37 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

It probably wouldn't take much of an investigation to determine if inquiries were made regarding the actual value and authenticity of the painting, by any of the three "investors".


8 posted on 06/20/2004 12:20:45 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Michael2001
O'Connor was on the committee that organized the auction and was responsible for acquiring paintings for the auction. He said he never spoke with Hale about her painting, and no one in his group knew its real value before buying it.

Seems suspect to me.

10 posted on 06/20/2004 12:25:51 AM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Michael2001

$3,200 is a pretty hefty price and I am sure the Church was happy when the sale went through. If they had bought it for $20.00, it would be a different story.


11 posted on 06/20/2004 12:27:45 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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To: Michael2001

THIS IS A HUGE PEOPLE THING.
churches would be great places if it was not for people.
now let's get back to the foundational word in the greek for church.
COMMUNITY,a place for those of the same mind-set to gather.
the mind-set should not be money,but the teaching of christian values[ie;the gospel]


12 posted on 06/20/2004 12:30:12 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
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To: opinionator
Sounds like fraud to me.

I am going to have to rethink my position on this. If what you say is correct, someone should be going to jail and the proceeds should go to the church.

13 posted on 06/20/2004 12:31:14 AM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Start Charging for Email - You get 2000 a month for free, then you pay!)
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The gesture I would give would involve the middle digit. Just because the donor and the church couldn't be bothered to get an appraisal is no reason for these folks to share a thing.

They'll probably be shunned, but that's not a bad thing. Who wants friends that begrudge you good fortune? Hopefully they'll use some of the money to move to a nice American town somewhere.


14 posted on 06/20/2004 12:34:41 AM PDT by Anglospheroid (Body counts in the billions don't bother me.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

No it probably wouldn't much of an investigation.

But it could only be done by law enforcement.

Internet search records along with when would be key.


15 posted on 06/20/2004 12:38:38 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: opinionator
Sounds like fraud to me.

I agree. I don't believe for a moment that O'Connor and his friends didn't know what they had on their hands. How do you even look at a painting like that and not realize it's got to be worth something? At any rate, as you pointed out, it was his respnsibility to get the best price he could for the painting, which would definitely have meant getting it appraised. The guy's a crook and should be fined heavily for his dereliction of duty.

16 posted on 06/20/2004 12:39:21 AM PDT by giotto
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To: Anglospheroid

It all depends on where or not it was honest "good fortune".


17 posted on 06/20/2004 12:41:14 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

Dang...

Make that "...whether or not..."


18 posted on 06/20/2004 12:41:58 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Michael2001
"O'Connor was on the committee that organized the auction and was responsible for acquiring paintings for the auction. He said he never spoke with Hale about her painting, and no one in his group knew its real value before buying it.

'We were all friends and decided we would buy the painting,' he said Thursday. 'We just thought it would be a great investment.'"

Sheesh. What a weasel.

Hey, O'Connor: WWJD???

19 posted on 06/20/2004 12:53:11 AM PDT by formerDem (veritas)
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To: formerDem

I didn't think of this angle the first time I read the article, but as some of you pointed out it does seem a bit suspicious now - I think O'Connor may have known from the start what he had.


20 posted on 06/20/2004 1:01:32 AM PDT by Michael2001 (Every man lives, and every man dies, but not every man truly lives)
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