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U.S. at War With Beijing, Reports Cite China as No. 1 Threat
newsmax.com ^ | June 17, 2004 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 06/21/2004 12:55:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sadly, I'm happy to see that the administration is taking the Chinese threat seriously. We are going to need all the Mexicans we can get if we decide to bring our manufacturing back.


41 posted on 06/21/2004 3:05:28 PM PDT by playball0
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To: Dead Dog

Yea, I saw this. Crazy huh, shooting war maybe by next year?!?!? Did you see the nice little quote about American companies paying for PLA military expansion. About time someone said it!


42 posted on 06/21/2004 4:12:23 PM PDT by walkingdead (easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Don Joe
How does our Navy defend against an attack that consists of a call from Peking to all COSCO ships, ordering them to turn around?

You have no idea what our navy is capable of. You havn't even factored in our submarines. Their military equipment and strategies are still geared in the WW2 era. Their only hope is to do their damage and get out before we show up.

I give us 30 days of non-supply from China before we're on our knees.

How long can china last without our influx of money? It works both ways. We can get the same items elsewhere for a little more money. Who the hell is going to pick up the buying spree if the US stops spending? Where will china turn to buy their crap? If the US trade stops, the chinese economy will go in a tailspin compared to the hit the US economy would suffer. And our economy is free enough to rebound from that. Can you say the same for china?

We've exported our manufacturing infrastructure. We have placed ourselves at the mercy of our avowed foe. We have made ourselves dependent on an enemy for our very survival.

Vote for Kerry if you actually believe this one.

I think China is a threat to Taiwan and to the US, but they have a whole lot of problems on their own right now.

43 posted on 06/21/2004 4:23:27 PM PDT by rudypoot (Rat line = Routes that foreign fighters use to enter Iraq.)
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To: Alberta's Child; hchutch; Tailgunner Joe
It's 2010. China invades Taiwan in an attempt to re-unify it with the mainland. China is successful, though at a tremendous cost.

So what happens next? What do they gain by doing this, since Taiwan doesn't exactly have a pile of resource wealth that makes it a worthwhile military target?

Here's the next question: two weeks after the last organized resistance ends in Taipei, several nuclear weapons detonate in Beijing. An organization styling itself as "The Avengers of Taiwan" claims credit and demands the immediate withdrawal of all ChiCom forces from Taiwan, plus payment of an enormous indemnity by China, or more cities will be destroyed. The PRC is given 12 hours to start retrograding their troops, without their equipment.

What do the ChiComs do at that point?

44 posted on 06/21/2004 4:31:31 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Don Joe; hchutch
How does our Navy defend against an attack that consists of a call from Peking to all COSCO ships, ordering them to turn around?

Send boarding parties to capture the errant ships...

So, what will our Navy do? Mount an antiblockade?

Hint: There ain't no such thing.

Hint: we can capture all oil tankers headed for China.

I give us 30 days of non-supply from China before we're on our knees.

China would last less than 15 without oil imports.

Oh, and they'd discover that those funny green pieces of paper are cut to the wrong size to use as toilet paper.

45 posted on 06/21/2004 4:35:56 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Don Joe; hchutch
I suggest all the tut-tutters in this thread take a look at China's book "Unrestricted Warfare", and let the message sink in.

I suggest that all the people hyperventilating about "Unrestricted Warfare" read enough history to understand what happens to countries that try to apply "Unrestricted Warfare."

46 posted on 06/21/2004 4:37:56 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Don Joe

Yes. And we continue to ignore them at our growing peril.


47 posted on 06/21/2004 4:41:43 PM PDT by Petronski (Ronald Reagan: 1015 electoral votes.)
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To: Terpfen
Taiwan is a major center of electronics technology and manufacturing. Most of the parts in your computer were manufactured in Taiwan. If the ChiComms get Taiwan, not only will their economy expand by leaps and bounds, but they can seriously impact the high-tech trade.

And, of course, they will capture all of the manufacturing and laboratory facilities intact after an intense shooting war through the streets of Taipei.

48 posted on 06/21/2004 4:45:15 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: playball0

With the latest upgrade, the Dong-Feng 41 should be able to hit all US targets by 2010 with a projected range of 12,000 km.


49 posted on 06/21/2004 4:52:16 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Rockitz
With the latest upgrade, the Dong-Feng 41 should be able to hit all US targets by 2010 with a projected range of 12,000 km.

We've been able to hit all ChiCom targets since 1960. Whoop-de-do.

50 posted on 06/21/2004 5:02:00 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If the Chinese are producing below cost, every good and service exported results in a reduction of the Chinese national wealth. Such scenario will catch up with them sooner or later.
51 posted on 06/21/2004 5:08:34 PM PDT by fso301
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To: neutrino
The U.S. government has cited China as the No. 1 threat to global security for the second time in less than a month.

PING
52 posted on 06/21/2004 5:24:18 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: fso301; hchutch
If the Chinese are producing below cost, every good and service exported results in a reduction of the Chinese national wealth. Such scenario will catch up with them sooner or later.

Oops, you weren't supposed to notice that little detail.

53 posted on 06/21/2004 5:39:46 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Poohbah

The ability to strike all US targets will most certainly give them more confident that we would not volitionally respond to a Taiwan offensive or be capable of responding should they venture a first strike against us. You can bet our war gamers are very concerned about this advent in capability.


54 posted on 06/21/2004 5:41:07 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Rockitz

confident = confidence

Maybe we need grammar check, too. Arghhhh! ;o)


55 posted on 06/21/2004 5:43:27 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; iamright; AM2000; Iscool; wku man; Lael; international american; No_Doll_i; ...
Thanks for the ping, Hedgetrimmer!

This is exactly the scenario we've been warning the free traitors about - only it isn't in the distant future. It is here and now.

It isn't just investors who are making the Chinese army stronger - those who buy Chinese goods at Wal Mart have a portion of the blame also.

Folks, we have to end the transfer of our industrial base to China or they will use those factories to kill our allies, our troops, and our civilians.

If you want on or off my offshoring ping list, please FReepmail me!

56 posted on 06/21/2004 5:45:10 PM PDT by neutrino (Against stupidity the very Gods themselves contend in vain.)
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To: Poohbah
"And, of course, they will capture all of the manufacturing and laboratory facilities intact after an intense shooting war through the streets of Taipei."

I sense sarcasm. Fine, let's say the factories are destroyed and the Chinese don't get the manufacturing industries. Well, if the factories are destroyed, we don't get our computer parts, we're out of a high-tech economy.
57 posted on 06/21/2004 5:48:26 PM PDT by Terpfen (Re-elect Bush; kill terrorists now, fix Medicare later.)
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To: Terpfen; hchutch
I sense sarcasm. Fine, let's say the factories are destroyed and the Chinese don't get the manufacturing industries. Well, if the factories are destroyed, we don't get our computer parts, we're out of a high-tech economy.

I didn't realize that Taiwan was the only place in the world to get those components. The things you learn on FR...

59 posted on 06/21/2004 5:54:08 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Rebelbase

When Red China invades Taiwan it will not be overt--it will be something more like a Trojan Horse operation. There will be problems in Taiwan--rival presidents and riots. The Chinese will come to restore order. Some will welcome them. The "fifth Column" and Red Chinese agents will seize the airports and plains will bring in the troops--who will also come by ships. Some Taiwanese will welcome them as liberators. It will all be over in 48 hours. They will use their new naval power to hold us back until the war is over. Then, they will march on Viet Nam seeking the oil reserves and keep heading south. Will we risk Nuclear war for Indonesia and Malaya? Nope. They will have the oil and resorces they need. For all we know they might make life better for the people they take over. It will not be an empire just a unified communist block. By then we will be so dependent on China that we couldn't live without their stuff. That's what I see.


60 posted on 06/21/2004 6:07:29 PM PDT by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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