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Another step toward world government (United Nations New World Order)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39172 ^ | June 28, 2004 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 06/28/2004 10:42:43 AM PDT by take

Another step toward world government

Conservatives, alarmed over the erosion of American sovereignty, suffered another setback this week.

The New York Times describes the defeat: "The United States bowed Wednesday to broad opposition on the Security Council and announced it was dropping its effort to gain immunity for its troops from prosecution by the International Criminal Court."

It is a victory for the New World Order, and internationalists see it as such. Both the Financial Times ("U.S. Retreats on Bid for War Crimes Immunity") and The New York Times ("U.S. Drops Plan to Exempt G.I.s from U.N. Court") elevated it to the front-page lead story on June 24.

Several factors brought about the U.S. defeat. NATO allies Spain, Germany and France abandoned us. U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan called for an end to immunity for U.S. troops. And the Abu Ghraib prison scandal undermined the case for any exemptions from war crimes trials for America soldiers.

The prospect of U.S. soldiers being led in handcuffs before the ICC to be prosecuted for war crimes, while Washington impotently wails, is, of course, remote. But Americans had better wake up and smell the coffee. A global bureaucracy is steadily tying this nation down with tiny strands, just as Gulliver was tied down by the little men on that beach in Lilliput.

Globalists are elated and cocky over our defeat. Reports the FT: "International human-rights groups welcomed the Security Council's refusal to extend the immunity resolution.

'''The rule of law has been reinforced: that international law applies equally to all countries,' said William Pace, head of the Coalition for an International Criminal Court."

What is wrong with Pace's contention? Just this. The United States opposed creation of the ICC. And the president and Congress have rejected its claims to jurisdiction over U.S. armed forces. By what right, then, does the ICC claim such jurisdiction?

Can a tribunal be set up and assert a right to prosecute U.S. citizens and soldiers without our permission? In the World Government rising, apparently our consent is not required for us to be subject to a criminal tribunal whose sovereignty supercedes our own. Americans had best discover what these internationalists are up to, or our grandchildren may one day wake up and find out Granddad was napping while they lost forever what their ancestors had won for them on the battlefields of Saratoga and Yorktown.

Consider the claims being made and accepted by nations, by international organizations and by civil servants no one ever elected.

The U.N., a U.S. creation, is now claiming the right to determine when, where and whether the United States may go to war. Secretary General Kofi Annan, a U.N. bureaucrat from a failed state, Ghana, is telling us that U.S. soldiers must be subject to prosecution by a U.N. war-crimes tribunal with jurisdiction we have never accepted.

The World Trade organization, established in 1994 when Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich signed onto Bill Clinton's GATT treaty, ordered President Bush to lift U.S. steel tariffs or face fines, and President Bush meekly complied. Now, the WTO has ordered Congress to end tax breaks for major U.S. exporters and authorized the EU to impose tariffs on U.S. goods – which the EU has done. Now, Congress is rushing to comply.

Has no one considered imposing reciprocal tariffs on the EU and telling it the ball is in its court? Europe, after all, runs a huge trade surplus with us. They are the ones who should fear a trade war.

The question here is not only what is decided, but who decides. Why should laws enacted by Congress and signed by the president be subject to any review, other than by our own Supreme Court?

This year, another U.N. power grab, over the world's oceans and their resources, almost succeeded, until conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Frank Gaffney raised the roof. U.S. accession to the U.N. Law of the Sea Treaty was then interred in Senate committee. The Law of the Sea Treaty was a resurrected version of the one Ronald Reagan had torpedoed in 1983. They keep coming back.

Americans seem unaware that all these institutions with the high-sounding names – the United Nations, World Trade Organization, the Kyoto Protocols, the International Criminal Court, the Law of the Sea Treaty, the North American Free Trade Agreement, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank – have one grand strategic purpose:

To assert the superior sovereignty of international organizations over the government of the United States, to restrict and conscript our power for their purposes and to transfer the wealth of the American nation and people to international civil servants – for their consumption and redistribution.

In the name of humanity, these glorified thieves would rob us of our heritage. We are fools if we let it happen.


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To: general_re
Even if you add in about a million reservists, and the 15 million or so local militiamen - who don't really constitute an offensive threat anyway - you're still way off ;)

I believe the reserve command is a bit larger than that. What if we add all support personell, those who work for 2000 front companies owned by the military and all available conscriptees. Would I be close then?

61 posted on 06/28/2004 2:43:15 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: r9etb
Ixnay on the Bilderberger-ay.

Fine, but if I get demoted down to 23rd level Freemason, I'm never going to forgive you.

62 posted on 06/28/2004 2:46:17 PM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Modernman
Are you a goldbug?

I do go pan some now and then just for a little distraction.

63 posted on 06/28/2004 2:48:11 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: eskimo; dighton
I believe the reserve command is a bit larger than that.

Believe as you wish; reality is very different.

What if we add all support personell, those who work for 2000 front companies owned by the military and all available conscriptees. Would I be close then?

Nope, not even.

Also note that the ChiComs want to cut the active force in half because they can't afford to have both a modern army and a big army. They can either have a peasant conscript army, or a small professional force. The small professional forces are the ones that win wars.

64 posted on 06/28/2004 2:50:36 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: general_re

One does wonder how the nefarious Chinese plan to invade us. Gasp! They're gonna deforest Central America and build invasion rafts! The b@stards!


65 posted on 06/28/2004 2:51:34 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Nope, they'll retain Louis Farrakhan as an advisor for "The 300-Million-Man Swim."


66 posted on 06/28/2004 2:54:42 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: eskimo
There are more people in the Chinese army than in the entire US.

No kidding?

So there are only 2.5 million people in the United States?

Ground Force (Army) (1.9 million men; 14,000 tanks; 14,500 artillery pieces & 453 helicopters)
Introduction and General Information
Ground Force Aviation

Navy (250,000 sailors; 63 submarines; 18 destroyers; 35 frigates)
Commander: General ZHANG Dingfa
Political Commissar: General HU Yanlin
Introduction and General Information
Marine Corps
Naval Aviation


67 posted on 06/28/2004 2:57:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Texas Federalist
Hate to use a cliche, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need additional facts to tell whether it is showing the wrong time beyond the fact that it doesn't work.

I guess I believe the clock needs to be viewed as working and correct at least one since it was last observed as wrong in order to prove that it is still not broken since then.

68 posted on 06/28/2004 3:04:35 PM PDT by eskimo
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To: r9etb; Modernman
What is going on on this thread? Do these other posters just like to spread lies?

U.S. Rewords a Resolution on Immunity for Its Troops
By WARREN HOGE
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/23/international/23NATI.html?ex=1088568000&en=05d0331a2974eff4&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
Published: June 23, 2004

NITED NATIONS, June 22 — The United States circulated a reworded resolution among Security Council members on Tuesday evening to try to overcome broad opposition to its effort to keep its troops immune from any prosecution by the International Criminal Court.

The measure, introduced last month and then withdrawn, would extend such protection to American soldiers participating in United Nations-approved peacekeeping forces. The current expiration for such immunity is June 30.
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That same day, next Wednesday, Iraq regains sovereignty and the mostly American force there becomes a United Nations-mandated one. The United States is pressing hard for a vote beforehand.

This is the third year in which the United States has sought the exemption, and though there were three abstentions last year and several more expected this year, American diplomats in May said they felt confident they could obtain support for a "technical rollover" of the measure.

The Bush administration says the protection stops people from using the court to bring politically motivated war crimes prosecutions against Americans abroad.

Last week, Secretary General Kofi Annan called on the Security Council to turn back the American move, saying it was "of dubious judicial value" and particularly objectionable in the aftermath of the prisoner abuse cases in Iraq.

Mr. Annan said that passing the measure would discredit the council, the United Nations and the "primacy of the rule of law," and he appealed to the 15 members to maintain the common purpose they had shown earlier this month in voting unanimously on a resolution affirming the arrangements for transferring power in Iraq.

That appeal caused several nations to rethink their backing of the original resolution and of their reluctance to be seen as defying the United States.

The version that American diplomats circulated on Tuesday dropped language in the original proposal that expressed the intention to renew the one-year exemption each July 1 for further 12-month periods "for as long as may be necessary."

Mr. Annan had protested that the clause would perpetuate United Nations approval of what was meant to be a temporary emergency departure from international law.

The new language pledges that this request for a one-year exemption is the last.

James B. Cunningham, the American deputy ambassador, said the ambassadors would consult with their governments overnight and that the United States would wait to hear how the compromise was received before deciding whether to put it to a vote.

Richard Dicker, director for international justice at Human Rights Watch and an opponent of immunity for American troops, expressed doubt that the compromise would change enough minds. "I wonder how one reconciles support for even one year's exemption with the very strong words of the secretary general," Mr. Dicker said.

But Abdallah Baali, the Algerian ambassador, said he thought otherwise. "A number of countries have been looking for a gesture from the Americans," Mr. Baali said, "and this could be that gesture."

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And

There was an article on this posted at today's nationalPost. It ends with the following:

Besides seeking a new exemption from arrest or prosecution of U.S. peacekeepers, Washington has signed bilateral agreements with 90 countries that bar any prosecution of American officials by the court and is seeking more such treaties. Mr. Cunningham said the United States is “more comfortable” with a final year-long exemption given Washington's progress in signing bilateral agreements and status of forces agreements.

IOW, the administration apparently feels the blanket immunity from the UN is irrelevant, given these bilateral treaties. HOWEVER, I would feel more comfortable if our ambassador to the UN would forcefully reiterate that : 1. it is a gross insult to national sovereignty to claim that a nation is bound by a treaty it specifically rejected-that goes against the UN's own bylaws re: sovereignty; 2. that our laws state that the US Constitution is the supreme law over US citizens ; and 3. Any attempts to bring US citizens before this tribunal, by ANY country or countries, will be considered a hostile act which the US will retaliate against with all means at its disposal, NOT excluding war.

We must make it clear to the scum of the earth that we are willing to see large numbers of their soldiers die , if that's what it takes to have our national sovereignty respected.

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U.S. Ends Bid for Protection From War Crimes Tribunal (Update1)

69 posted on 06/28/2004 3:06:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RWR8189

Can you weigh in here?


70 posted on 06/28/2004 3:07:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Poohbah
"The 300-Million-Man Swim."

I hear they all plan to jump in at once. The term "assault wave" takes on an entirely new meaning.....

71 posted on 06/28/2004 3:08:59 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Howlin
What is going on on this thread? Do these other posters just like to spread lies?

Nah -- It's just that Pat Buchanan's like a bowl of Life Cereal. First bowl tastes great, and it's tastes progressively worse from there.

72 posted on 06/28/2004 3:10:53 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: babaloo999
We should be much more worried about our elected officials in DC.

That's for sure, they are much more of a threat to our liberty.

73 posted on 06/28/2004 3:11:41 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Howlin

Good post, H.


74 posted on 06/28/2004 3:13:07 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Texas Federalist
Pat is right on the money with this editorial.

Pat is right on the money with most of his editorials. Thats why the neo-conservatives, and other assorted open border, new world order types hate him.

75 posted on 06/28/2004 3:13:23 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: eskimo

Many believe that whichever establishment faction (Dem/GOP) is installed next will likely make massive concessions to the UN, and we may even see the formal beginnings of a UN Army.

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/9/6/112634
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_118230.html

"What I'm trying to do is to promote a process of reorganization of the world ..." President Clinton, interview with Argentine reporters, October 17, 1997.


I feel better at this time with the GOP in there...


76 posted on 06/28/2004 3:13:56 PM PDT by mcar
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To: Mr. Mojo

I'm tired of these people who completely ignore the FACTS and continually post disinformation on this site.


77 posted on 06/28/2004 3:15:44 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: r9etb; Poohbah

I note with some satisfaction that 25 years ago, the Chinese managed to sustain and supply an invasion of Vietnam - for about three weeks. The US is not next door, as the Vietnamese were, and the US military is somewhat more capable than the Vietnamese, so I'm not losing too much sleep about the Yellow Peril driving T-72s down Broadway just yet... ;)


78 posted on 06/28/2004 3:18:10 PM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: eskimo

There are more people in the Chinese army than in the entire US.


Ahahahahahahahahaha Thats rich did ya ever use a calculator when you were a kid ! no better time to start !

Besides i estimate 85% of the U.S. is armed i dont think they would get very far even if they got here!


79 posted on 06/28/2004 3:34:05 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("In America, our origins matter less than our destinations, and that is what democracy is all about")
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To: r9etb
Nah -- It's just that Pat Buchanan's like a bowl of Life Cereal. First bowl tastes great, and it's tastes progressively worse from there.

Let me guess, it's the "Pats against the Jews" conspiracy again eh?

Funny how some of you go out of your way to pretend to mock Buchanan with the endless "he hates the jews" thing, calling him a leftist among other things. In reality, most jews are the liberal leftist. Hehehe...

Fact is, the biggest, most threatening thing facing this nation is the endless attack on our sovereignty and our borders by literally millions entering illegally. Pat is one of the very *few* that speaks out against this and the UN. IMO, anyone that's against Pat is a, well lets just say they have other interest in mind, and I am sure it's clear to most that decline to join in your propaganda parade against Buchanan.

80 posted on 06/28/2004 3:36:49 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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