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1 posted on 07/01/2004 10:11:08 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme

Bill is just talking reality. Not illusion.


2 posted on 07/01/2004 10:13:33 PM PDT by eternity (From here to...)
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To: missyme
Wow, what's gotten into Cosby's puddin' lately?


3 posted on 07/01/2004 10:16:40 PM PDT by MrJingles (So the world hates us? "Oderint dum metuant." -Seneca)
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To: missyme
Bill Cosby went off on another tirade against the black community Thursday...

My God, what a racist comment! Cosby was speaking against ignorance, slackery noninitiative, lack of discipline, the lack of goals, hip-hoppish thuggery, etc., etc. CNN, I guess, considers all of these negatives as characteristic of the "black community." African-Americans should be more upset with CNN's characterization than anything Bill Cosby said.

4 posted on 07/01/2004 10:19:46 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: missyme

I'd say he's telling it like it is, especially in the inner cities. So much wasted potential.


5 posted on 07/01/2004 10:22:25 PM PDT by Az. Mike
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Cosby is a very brave man. The "black community" has some fine role models -- including Cos -- but the lionizing of thugs which has gone on over the past 20 years is a tragedy. More power to Bill in his efforts to inject some sanity.


9 posted on 07/01/2004 10:32:47 PM PDT by JennysCool ("I'm not worried about the deficit. It's big enough to take care of itself." - RWR)
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To: missyme

You just know Je$$e is wondering what's in it for him. Although he doesn't look really happy about being there....

12 posted on 07/01/2004 11:02:56 PM PDT by Watery Tart (Chant to achieve total grammatical nirvana: “Whooooooooom”)
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Well, we can be sure that Bill Cosby won't be invited to NAACP and Congressional Black Caucus functions anytime soon.
15 posted on 07/01/2004 11:29:42 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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Man, dat Cosby dude be gittin' on my nerves for real. If I see him in da hood I be gonna steal off on dat boy. Know what I'm sayin'? I don't be slappin' my baby mama 'cause I can't find work. I be slappin' da b*tch cause she be a ho.


18 posted on 07/01/2004 11:35:37 PM PDT by no dems (Does the Bush/Cheney camp monitor the Freep website?)
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Bill Cosby is a philanthropist, too. My little corner of Massachusetts tends toward rural poverty, and he has visited some of our poorest schools to encourage the kids to work hard in school to build a good life for themselves, and he has given money to help these schools. And our poorest schools are almost all white. He does it just to help our community, not because he wants publicity, as some philanthropists do...

Thank you, Bill Cosby!


23 posted on 07/02/2004 6:31:28 AM PDT by ladyrustic (seek truth, beauty, goodness)
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He shot back Thursday, saying his detractors were trying in vain to hide the black community's "dirty laundry."

"Let me tell you something, your dirty laundry gets out of school at 2:30 every day, it's cursing and calling each other n------ as they're walking up and down the street,"

I think that this portion of his speech is the most crucial...the black community has been fearful of going public with the problems within their community for fear of feeding the stereotype...unfortunately 10 to 20 years of neglect has ravaged a couple of generations of poor urban children...I teach in an inner city school in Brooklyn...it is positively daunting trying to undo some of the damage of parental neglect.

25 posted on 07/02/2004 11:19:21 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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Hey, hey, hey...!


27 posted on 07/02/2004 5:07:58 PM PDT by quark
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black children are running around not knowing how to read or write and "going nowhere."

Here's my take on why Blacks are going nowhere (posted earlier on another thread).

While the White community, in my opinion, has been more than "giving" in providing programs and financial support to bring Blacks out of poverty and ignorance, unfortunately many Black leaders (and those who seek their political support) have not been willing to expect much of their constituency. Thus Black on Black crime abounds, as does Black racism (against non-Blacks) single parent households, out of wedlock children, low levels of learning, inability to work in the real world, and rampant drug abuse.

Immigration has built our country. And while we have Irish Americans, Italian Americans, Polish Americans, Native Americans, and now, the new "majority minority", Mexican Americans, they have all adapted (mostly) to the real world. They hold jobs, they earn a living, they build families, they obey the law.

But not so with Blacks. Even for those who have "risen out of the ghetto", it is OK for those who have not to make demands on the community as a whole. Thus crime rates rise, drug use abounds, contempt for the law is acceptable, "ghetto-speak" is permissible. The rest of the "minorities" see American freedom and opportunigy as more than this, but Blacks don't.

It’s almost as though while they have been freed, all they want to be is slaves. The Black who has left the ghetto accepts society’s rules, and lives by them (for they must after all earn a living, do something useful, come to work on time, not break the law, pay taxes and using "ghetto speak" at work won’t take them anywhere). But still they think it’s OK for other Blacks to not follow those rules, to remain slave-like in their approach to life. Cosby's is a lone voice.

My question is why must Mexican Americans obey the law, why must the Asian American, why the Irish American, but not the African American? Should we ignore this dichotomy and advocate such irresponsibility? Can society function with those discrepancies and inequalities? Is nothing more expected of the "freed slave" than to merely exist and take handouts? On the plantation, the master provided all the essentials of life. But even there work was required, and laws had to be obeyed (except in the "quarters" where more laxity was allowed). The "freed slave" wants the laxity of the "quarters" but none of the restraints of "life off the plantation".

Should this "freed slave" be allowed to prey on those trying to climb out of "ghetto-think"? Does compassion require us to accept, even to advocate such inequalities? Just what is "social justice" – is it no law and order for the Blacks, but law and order for the rest of us?

Until the "freed slave" is willing to accept the responsibilities of citizenship, he will remain as useless as Cosby says they are, and a drag on society. No wonder they use the "N" word to describe themselves, for that is what they have remained.

28 posted on 07/02/2004 7:33:03 PM PDT by capocchio (Entitlements are still slavery to White Democrat masters, just like before)
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About damn time somebody said it.


31 posted on 07/02/2004 10:20:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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This is a great thing for Bill to do. He's telling truths to/about scoundrels that the race hustler/race problem solvers are threatened by. And he's got enough gravitas that it works.


32 posted on 07/02/2004 10:26:23 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle.")
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Cosby appeared Thursday with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, founder and president of the education fund, who defended the entertainer's statements.

So Jesse Jackson is trying to ride Bill's jock now?--ROFLMBO!--now I've seen everything. . .

34 posted on 07/03/2004 12:03:27 AM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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This is not just a "black" problem. Kids of all races try to take the easy way out by slipping into street behavior.


39 posted on 07/03/2004 9:52:20 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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I was surfin' the cable channels and ran across "The Flip Wilson Show". He and Bill Cosby were successful black entertainers who "broke the color line" and moved our society to a more homogenious culture. Now they've been superceded by the black angst of the ghetto where their example is ignored. Dr. Cosby has a right to question the ludicrous lamentors!


40 posted on 07/03/2004 9:53:21 AM PDT by Young Werther
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The black community in our society are struggling to survive in our modern life. Society jeopardizes there future in succeeding in our world. they disclosed blacks from interacting and communicating in jobs which leads to violence and gang related problems. Bill cosby's approach has being blowed way out of proportion. it has led to an uprise and controversy on his comments. He extends his concern by criticizing the parents for not taken part in there child's education, which is correct and the truth for most parents. parents need to step there parenting skills in our black community , they need to take part in there childs progress in learning and not just waiting for that D+ in there report card. they need to consider that fact bill Cosby is speaking the truth for those who ain't taken part in there child future.
42 posted on 09/18/2004 1:16:39 PM PDT by JnF
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BTTT


44 posted on 09/18/2004 3:38:04 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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"...You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth."
Sure ya can. Hasn't Bill heard about hiring preferences, the EEOA, Affirmative Action, race-norming...
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