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Will Doom 3 revive the struggling PC Gaming Industry?
CNN:Money ^ | July 14, 2004 | Chris Morris

Posted on 07/15/2004 7:51:30 AM PDT by Paradox

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Since 2000, developer id Software has told the world the next installment of "Doom," the game that kicked off the action genre, would ship "when it's done."

Good news, gamers: It's done. In the lexicon of the industry, "Doom 3" has gone gold.That means with id Software's work done, publisher Activision is duplicating copies to ship to retail. What it all boils down to is you'll be able to pick up a copy at retail on Aug. 5, though some stores could start selling the game as early as Aug. 3.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: doom3; firstpersonshooter; idsoftware; itsdone; johncarmack
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To: Paradox
I don't think the PC gaming industry is going downhill...some of the best games have yet to come out...Doom3, Half Life2, GTR from Simbin. The PC is getting better and better at recreating intense gaming. Unreal Tournament 2004 is incredible. The Onslaught feature is so much fun.

Any racing sim fans should check GTR out, it is going to be fantastic. Not out yet, but they put together a Mod for the F1 racing games that was amazing...

Link to SimBin site.

161 posted on 07/15/2004 9:49:09 AM PDT by Benrand
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To: GreenLanternCorps
HA! Mine had a hand crank for power.

386 DX (oh yeah that MATHCO addition was worth it)
5 megs RAM (I upgraded from 4)
100 Meg HD (Would I EVER use that much space?)
512k Video Card
No Sound Card (Why would I need to hear it?)
1x CD
3.5 and 5.25

And like Bryan Adams guitar, I played it till by fingers bled

Now I'm just finishing college for 3-d Graphics and Animation for Gaming.

The PC game will always come back because of the upgrade ability and the independent nature of the developers. (same reason the US will always be on top when you think about it)

PS most of my classmates are starting to throw off the liberal programming, it's a real wonder to behold AND it's nice to have some company)
162 posted on 07/15/2004 9:49:19 AM PDT by Anvilhead (When danger reared its ugly head, Brave Sir Robin turned and fled)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
HA! Mine had a hand crank for power.

386 DX (oh yeah that MATHCO addition was worth it)
5 megs RAM (I upgraded from 4)
100 Meg HD (Would I EVER use that much space?)
512k Video Card
No Sound Card (Why would I need to hear it?)
1x CD
3.5 and 5.25

And like Bryan Adams guitar, I played it till by fingers bled

Now I'm just finishing college for 3-d Graphics and Animation for Gaming.

The PC game will always come back because of the upgrade ability and the independent nature of the developers. (same reason the US will always be on top when you think about it)

PS most of my classmates are starting to throw off the liberal programming, it's a real wonder to behold AND it's nice to have some company)
163 posted on 07/15/2004 9:49:46 AM PDT by Anvilhead (When danger reared its ugly head, Brave Sir Robin turned and fled)
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To: Archangelsk

It drives it in many ways:

First, the purchase of the game itself.
Second, often people need to upgrade their video cards to play the latest and greatest 3d games. That's anywhere from $150 - $500.
Also, computer ram / cpu upgrades can be necessary. Some people just buy whole new systems.
In the categories above, the higher end the purchase, the larger the profit margin for the manufacturers.

Additionally, there are other smaller impacts, on things like monitor sales (people want a bigger / better monitor), OS upgrades (getting rid of win ME to run on win XP), or internet connections (ditching dialup and getting broadband).

A breakthrough video game is just like any other major innovation - in sparks demand and purchases of related items.


164 posted on 07/15/2004 9:49:48 AM PDT by flashbunny (Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: Xenalyte

Heh heh, they were known for that.

Also, if I recall correctly the cassettes were only good for several loadings. Then the quality of the cassettes degraded to a point where you'd get loading errors.

And forget about graphics. All you got were a bunch of simple ASCII characters.


165 posted on 07/15/2004 9:53:33 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: MDspinboyredux
All you got were a bunch of simple ASCII characters.

Speaking of ASCII characters, I still play Rogue ("You scored an excellent hit on the bat") once in a while, for nostalgia's sake. I wasted quite a few hours playing Rogue on a VAX 11/780 in college in 1982 - that's how I got started with all this gaming stuff!

166 posted on 07/15/2004 9:58:14 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: AAABEST

Doom player AND Latin Mass advocate? Who would have thunk it? ;-)


167 posted on 07/15/2004 9:59:37 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: Badeye
I just finished the veteran level of Ghost Recon last night. Great graphics, and pretty good replayability (if thats a word.....LOL)

My only problem with GR is the realism. Going up against trained military, I usually wind up dying like a dog, crawling on the ground, never knowing who the killer was or even where he was.

That game is TOUGH.

168 posted on 07/15/2004 10:01:20 AM PDT by Palmetto
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To: Xenalyte
Why is it that some games provide us frustration that we enjoy working through, and others we toss aside after a couple hours and never pick up again?

Hm...maybe it's whether or not you feel like you accomplished something? I'm insufferably smug after I get past something nasty playing Thief (ask Moose4, who had to put up with me after I took out four guards the other night), and I think that's largely because it's a well-designed game with lots of surprises. On the other hand, I played Master of Orion 3 and am thoroughly unimpressed - I've never been able to do anything other than fumble my way to a win, and it doesn't feel like you do anything other than push buttons.

And I've never been good at FPSs. I can play the Thief games because there's little to no combat involved, but twitch-gaming isn't my style. :shrug:

169 posted on 07/15/2004 10:01:32 AM PDT by Foxfire4
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To: Paradox

I used to DOOM online up to 12 hours a day.

I used to have too much time on my hands.


170 posted on 07/15/2004 10:02:18 AM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: MDspinboyredux

I had an Atari 400 (McDonald's Cash register keyboard, no keys) with a cassette drive.

Used to play Avalon Hill's "B-1 Nuclear Bomber" with it. No graphics, just text messages....


171 posted on 07/15/2004 10:03:11 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: BrooklynGOP
Because spending four grand on an idiot box that allows the idiot watching it to count the nose hairs on a steriod enhanced athlete is stupid and laughable.

The new economy is making this country soft and squishy around the middle.

172 posted on 07/15/2004 10:06:19 AM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: Paradox

I haven't bought a game in 3 years or so because nothing really comes out that excites me.

I like games (am 21 and still play them sometimes), but am too cheap to get Playstation or something like that. There just aren't that many good games out there it seems like.


173 posted on 07/15/2004 10:08:43 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Paradox
"Will Doom 3 revive the struggling PC Gaming Industry?"

Static Shooter games are dying hard and fast on PCs becaue they can't compete with Consoles.

However MMORPG's are making the PC market Rock!


174 posted on 07/15/2004 10:10:00 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: BrooklynGOP

My word........that is some awesome graphics.


175 posted on 07/15/2004 10:10:04 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Crusher138

Yeah, it can be a bit addicting. I just had to put it down myself (catching a glimpse out of the corner of my eye, Morrowind gleaming with an inner light). It's been months since I've played it. I'm sure I'll pick it up some time later(as my hand reaches over to caress the game box...........)


176 posted on 07/15/2004 10:10:29 AM PDT by BigBlueJon
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To: Strategerist

I had Hammurabi. No graphics either. You entered in how much food you'd distribute, how much you'd save, etc. Depending on how you answered, your population would either grow or starve out.


177 posted on 07/15/2004 10:11:56 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: No.6

Doktor? Is that you? Hehe...

I'm a very active WW2OL gamer...it needs improvement...but hands down...the most immersive game out there. Steepest learning curve...but most rewarding experience out there.

I will buy Doom 3 for nostalgia though...


178 posted on 07/15/2004 10:15:40 AM PDT by jamz
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To: Palmetto

"My only problem with GR is the realism. Going up against trained military, I usually wind up dying like a dog, crawling on the ground, never knowing who the killer was or even where he was.

That game is TOUGH."

Try the following. In the set up screens, select the modern sniper rifle for your TWO snipers, one for each "team". Select the option that gives you extra ammo, unless its a scenario that requires going through a town or village, if thats the case select the grenades (great for clearing those small buildings and huts).

Next, immediately upon entering the scenario, take a kneeling or prone position for both teams. Then select one of the snipers, and begin to scan the surrounding area. Don't stand til you identify exactly where the target(s) are and you take them out.

Normally, I use the sniper's 85% of the time. End of scenario stats from last night were along the lines of "32 kills" for the sniper, and the remaining few divided between the rest of the "team".

I also normall switch out any "team member" who's accuracy is registered as a "one". When playing campaign, I always give one point to accuracy, then use the remaining point as needed (stealth for the snipers is a big plus, leadership points for the team leaders magnifies all the teams attributes).

btw, make sure you switch initially between both teams to give the "prone" command, else the "other team" will remain standing or kneeling.

Its worked for me.


179 posted on 07/15/2004 10:15:51 AM PDT by Badeye ("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
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To: Mad Dawgg
Static Shooter games are dying hard and fast on PCs becaue they can't compete with Consoles.

Where do you guys get this stuff from? Counter-Strike/Condition Zero is the most popular online multiplayer game in the world and has been for quite some time. It's a first person shooter, btw, and the XBOX version blows.

180 posted on 07/15/2004 10:16:49 AM PDT by Smogger
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