Posted on 07/16/2004 4:53:39 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
Edited on 07/16/2004 4:55:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
An Iranian connection is at least as likely as Al Quaeda and/or Iraq but the key point is the obstruction of justice committed by the Clinton administration in this among so many other cases. They and several dozens of their people should be in federal penitentiaries.
In James Sanders "Altered Evidence", chapter 3 reports the eyewitness' observations. Some were offshore, on boats, others were in the air and close by. Other eyewitnesses saw a missile launch from the horizon, streak through the air and explode.
OBL.
His video taped confession was released by President Bush on Dec 13, 2001, just a few days after OBL died.
What made this plane so unique?
bumperoo
You're probably thinking of the stories concerning a Aegis lab in New Jersey, and the claim that they were operating tests that night. They may well have been, but testing Aegis doesn't require firing a missile. I spent nine years on active duty with the Atlantic fleet, all of it on SAM equipped ships. I never once participated in a missile shoot anywhere except the range off Puerto Rico, I never heard of anyone shooting a missile near New York, never participated in a live fire exercise of any kind north of the Virginia cape. The military isn't stupid, regardless of what people think. And conducting a live fire exercise of any kind near the most heavily travelled air corridor in the world would be way past stupid.
It wasn't unique. In fact, almost every Boeing aircraft and some Airbus aircraft use a similar fuel system configuration. Every fuel tank is like a bomb sitting inside the aircraft. Heated, pressurized fuel is very explosive. But it only explodes if it is exposed to a source of ignition. The design philosophy of Boeing is to eliminate the threat of explosion by eliminating all sources of ignition inside the fuel tank. This has proven a relatively safe design philosophy as evidenced by the incredibly small numbers of fuel tank explosions. But there isn't a human engineered system ever created that isn't without flaw. Since the Wright Brothers, aircraft have crashed because in the life of an aircraft, things happen that engineers can't predict. And sometimes, they never figure out what happened. Especially when the aircraft involved is almost completely destroyed and soaked in sea water for several weeks.
"So why didn't Boeing ground all 747s and any other planes with a tank like this?"
That would be the decision of the NTSB, and they generally don't ground fleets of aircraft (its happened only once in the last 30 years). Usually, they just order inspections on all aircraft of the type being investigated. This was done several times during the course of the TWA 800 investigation.
That, in fact, is the evidence.
Regarding the probabilities, I posted a story about a meteor that destroyed a Chevy Nova parked in a driveway not far away from this area.
What do you think the probability of a meteor hitting a Chevy Nova might be?
You take your basic meteor streaking along at 24,000 MPH and smack that sucker into a jet airplane and you are going to have all sorts of new chemical compounds formed.
Kahlstrom was mentioned as a key FBI agent in the investigation of the Mafia. There is no doubt that he has had a distinguished career. If we had jets that blew up so easily, there would be a string of cases, like the Pinto and the police version of the Crown Victoria. I know one other case was cited, but that was not the same thing. (Do you remember the battleship explosion? They were finally able to figure it out, down to the klutz who had trouble doing the right thing with the powder versus the shell. He even got a letter from his girlfriend or wife, advising him that he was not the guy to ride the bicycle. Kaboom.)
We have reached the point where everyone would rather have a factual Valium than the real truth.
The big question here is why did Clinton cover? Grant it I believe he is cahoots with the commies because he is a commie and they are in cahoots the heads of the ME terrorists (the foot soldier terrorists are usefule idiots/nuts). But why the cover? terrorists want the world to know when they do something, that is the whole point of terrorism. I can't buy Slick covering it up because he didn't want to go after the terrorists. Slick would have blamed it on right wing extremists to thwart the movement to the right. No, Flight 800 was a hit on someone on that plane. After the crash I saw a story on a guy that was on the plane, he stayed behind an extra day to wrap up an Indonisian deal. He was then going to meet the rest of his family in Paris. Also I recall rumors that Netanayu was suppose to fly out at that time but left a day before or a day after. That's my theory.
Great analysis. Thanks for the summary and perspective.
So few people on FR actually go to the trouble to look for facts which will lead them to truth; it's easier to look for facts that support your own ideas or just ignore facts and go with your emotions.
Thanks for the time and effort you put into this.
Like a SAM-7?
If all those hundreds of eyewitnesses did not see a missile, what did they see?
Swamp gas?
Or are all people stupid except for representatives of the federal government?
The range in question was south of the air corridor and was reserved for a P-3 Orion to do some low level training. F-14s were built on Long Island, but the last one build was delivered in 1991 or 1992. Besides, the manufacturer wouldn't be conducting missile tests, that would be done at the squadron or test center level. And never around other traffic.
Heat seeking missiles guide to engines. Not internal fuel tanks.
"If all those hundreds of eyewitnesses did not see a missile, what did they see?"
Ask them. Almost none of them claimed they saw a missile.
"Or are all people stupid except for representatives of the federal government?"
Nope. Only people who make stuff up to support their theories.
Thank you for that information .... a P-3 is pretty innocent.
I actually once saw a daylight meteor entry and the light was blindingly bright and the trajectory was across the sky. It didn't appear at all to have originated from the ground level moving up. I suppose anything is possible but most people would consider the idea that a meteor collision, with the object appearing to rise in a criss cross trajectory into the aircraft, caused this is a bit, shall we say "far fetched". Certainly more so than the possibility of a SAM, terrorist launched or otherwise.
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