Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gay cruise meets protest in Bahamas (Rosie O'Donnell)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 7/16/04 | AP

Posted on 07/16/2004 7:28:46 PM PDT by MikalM

Passengers on a gay cruise were greeted by more than 100 protesters as they stepped off their chartered ship Friday in the Bahamas.

The protesters, led by Christian pastors, gathered in a square in front of the cruise terminal and chanted, "Gay Ways are Not God's Ways!"

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abomination; adoption; bahamas; celebrity; christian; christianpastorslead; cruise; demonstration; fosterchildren; gay; hollywood; hollywoodsvalues; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualbehavior; lesbian; lesbianbulldyke; protectchildren; protest; queer; romans1; rosieodonnell; sadnotgay; sodom; travel; westindies
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 241-251 next last
To: little jeremiah
Why are you carrying this ridiculous non-argument further into twilight?

I'm bored. Sorry.

141 posted on 07/17/2004 11:47:10 PM PDT by Jorge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 140 | View Replies]

To: dsc
It is necessary, therefore, that we cut each other some slack when a comma is misplaced or a finger comes down on the wrong key.

Especially sweaty old men with women's panties on their heads.....and homosexuals pounding out frantic responses. Let us be tolerant.

142 posted on 07/17/2004 11:52:31 PM PDT by Jorge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

Most of my friends have had letters to the editor printed, they are active in local politics, chambers of commerce and living their lives. Being "gay" is not what drives them, they either have jobs or run their own businesses.

I've got nothing but respect for Tammy Bruce and what she is doing......

I have to admit there is no greater theater than to see an agenda loathing gay go after one of the activists...you would have to see it to believe it.

These people I describe are out there, but just like any paid activists for any cause, the "in your facers" are dangerous to those who don't toe the line. And many of my friends are afraid for their businesses........and rightly so. So they do what they do without the cameras in their face.

I don't blame any of them - they saw what happened to themselves and to me regarding the issue of smoking bans - every time we made print or broadcast the hate mail and threatening phone calls skyrocketed. There is only so much abuse anyone can take.

My 2 main super politically active gay friends will not sign up for FR because of the viciousness of how homosexuals are treated here..........they read here on a regular basis and are totally amazed about how much abuse I take because of my stand on the issue. And are even more amazed that I am willing to keep doing so.


143 posted on 07/17/2004 11:54:13 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: dsc
My position is mistaken???????????

Wake up and smell the roses, FRiend.

I also have known many people who were afflicted with this disorder, and it is a sad fact that what they say to straight friends and what they really think quite often have little in common.

You are full of Barbra Streisand. You've got no clue.

The very fact that you know he's a homo tells you that he wants *more* than to be left alone.

The fact that you have no idea how I found that out tells me you want to make *more* of something you know nothing about.

There are few things I despise more than a bigot denying the bigotry.

I've got a major thunderstorm rolling in, and my dogs are not happy about it - I bid you goodnight.

144 posted on 07/18/2004 12:01:40 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | View Replies]

To: Gabz

The point that is important - even if there is a great silent majority of conservative homosexuals who oppose the radical "gay" agenda - is that the "gay" agenda IS having huge success in transforming the moral climate of not only the US but Europe and ultimately the rest of the world.

Homosexuals in the priesthood resulted in boys getting molested. That's the poster child for the "gay" agenda.

Homosexuality is a disorder, and should not be promoted as normal, benign, or as similar to being black or another (in the US) minority. It is a behavior, and it is a non-benign behavior. And people can change not only their actions but their attractions. It can be done, just as heroin addicts, smokers, and adulterers can change. Not all can, but many can - if one is determined.

Furthermore, it is absolutely wrong for homosexuality to be indoctrinated into kids. I know that is odd grammar but I am too tired to figure out a better way to say it. Homosexual activists are targetting kids in schools with clubs, classroom activity, and here in CA, mandatory K-12 pro-"gay" cirricula.

I do not hate people who act or identify as being homosexual. I do hate the radical "gay" agenda, and if I am condemned by you or others for speaking my mind, then I can only conclude that those who condemn me approve of the "gay" agenda.


145 posted on 07/18/2004 12:03:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | View Replies]

To: Gabz

I resent you calling disapproval of homosexual promotion 'bigotry". Nothing but Newspeak. Read Orwell and you'll know what I mean.

Considering same sex acts unhealthy, and their promotion wrong, is not bigotry.


146 posted on 07/18/2004 12:05:12 AM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | View Replies]

To: agrarianlady; rintense

Cayman's are changing...
Homosexuals and lesbians
are touring Grand Cayman
more and more.
My daughter manages this place
and the Hyatt's condos.

http://ticondos.com/


147 posted on 07/18/2004 12:06:46 AM PDT by onyx (Kerry/Edwards: It's the hair, stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

As a smoker, you putting me in the same category as heroin addicts, adulterers, and homosexuals costs you much respect in my book.

I will reread your post later........the storms are getting closer and my dogs are getting antsier - I must log off and bid you a goodnight.


148 posted on 07/18/2004 12:06:55 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 145 | View Replies]

To: Gabz

I am merely comparing habits which are known to not be benign, and can be changed. I used to be a cigarette smoker, pot smoker, alcoholic, and serious serial fornicator. I am not any more, because I decided I didn't like doing those things any more, and changed.

I am not equating the seriousness of those various habits. Obviously heroin is in a different league than Marlboros, or whatever people smoke nowadays.


149 posted on 07/18/2004 12:11:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

LJ,

I have been struggling with witnessing to homosexuals myself. I try to do it at least once a day while at work. At first I was unsuccessful until one day I sat down and really prayed about this. What I realized is that my entire approach was just an argument to whatever the these people were doing or saying.

Now what I do is share what it is like to have "true freedom" under Christ. THEN as they ask...which they usually do....I counter all the lies of their behavior. Which I must say is quite easy because of FReerepublic. I'm lucky because these people have to deal with me everyday at work. LOL...they can't run away and hide so that just have to listen to me when I walk by. I know that I have planted a seed deep in their heart. Hopefully I can get them into a church soon. Just think about the support they would get if we could get them into good church.


150 posted on 07/18/2004 4:11:59 AM PDT by I got the rope
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Jorge
Do these same "Christian pastors" lead protests against gambling on cruise ships?

They might: if there were some Scripture showing that it is wrong.....

151 posted on 07/18/2004 4:59:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | View Replies]

To: twgiles
Gay bars exist so these people can comingle and enjoy time with like-minded people, and the cruise served the same purpose. And in my opinion it would be poor Christian behavior to shout at patrons coming out of gay bars and it was poor Christian behavior to shout at gay people hopping off a cruise ship.
 
But when they got OFF the ship and co-mingled with the natives, they placed themselves into THEIR country.
 
Shoulda stayed on the ship, then all would have been happy.
 
Is it 'poor Christian behavior' to 'shout' at children playing in a busy street?

152 posted on 07/18/2004 5:02:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies]

To: dsc; All
Wrong key indeed... AMEN! This method of communication leaves a LOT a be desired, since we CANNOT 'hear' the tone of voice that is being used. Many times I has been misunderstood as well as myself misunderstanding others on these threads. Slow down guys, as I know quite well what crow tastes like from the feathers in my mouth on many occasions...

;^)


153 posted on 07/18/2004 5:07:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur
These demonstrators accomplished exactly nothing.

I disagree. Normally I'd agree with you that disrupting someone's vacation would be a waste. However, this was also a very public celebration intended to legitimize what many would consider deviancy. If the demonstrators slightly tainted the celebration of a much publicized vacation of aberrants and deviates, I'd say something was accomplished.

154 posted on 07/18/2004 5:17:00 AM PDT by BraveMan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: lentulusgracchus
Let's do the HEBREW    ;^)
 
 
 
I'm just using a little CD with 5 versions on it:
 
NIV, KJV, ASV, literal (with Strong's  numbers) and something called ROMANIZED [but I do not know what to make of it: see samples]
 

NIV John 3:16
  "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,  that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
 
KJV John 3:16
   For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
 
ASV John 3:16
   For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
 
LIT John 3:16
  |3779| so |1063| For |0025| loved |3588| - |2316| God |3588| the |9999| {people of the} |2889| world, |5620| so as |3588| the |5207| Son |3588| - |3439| one and only, |1325| He gave, |2443| so that |3956| everyone |3588| who |4100| believes |1519| into |0846| him |3361| not |0622| will perish, |0235| but |2192| have |2222| life |0166| everlasting.
 
ROM John 3:16
   Ho toos g r eeg peesen ho The s t n k smon, ho ste t n hui n t n monogene dooken, h na p s ho piste oon eis aut n me ap leetai all chee zooe n aio nion.
 
Let me see what the CD says about 'stench' or 'cry'.....
 


NIV Genesis 18:21
   that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know." 
 
KJV Genesis 18:21
   I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.
 
ASV Genesis 18:21
   I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me. And if not, I will know.
 
 
 
 
 
LIT Genesis 18:20-21
 20. |0559| And said |3068| Yahweh, |2201| The outcry of |5467| Sodom |6017| and Gomorrah, |3588| because |7227| it is great, |2403| and their sin, |3588| because |3513| it is heavy |3966| very,

 21. |3381| I will go down |4994| now |7200| and see |6818| if according to its outcry |0935| that is coming |3588| to Me |6213| they have done |3615| at all. |0518| And if |3808| not, |3045| I will know.
 
Strong's Ref. # 2201
 
Romanized  za`aq
Pronounced zah'-ak
 
and (feminine) zoaqah {zeh-aw-kaw'}; from HSN2199; a shriek or outcry:
 
KJV--cry(-ing).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Strong's Ref. # 6818
 
Romanized  tsa`aqah
Pronounced tsah-ak-aw'
 
from HSN6817; a shriek:
 
KJV--cry(-ing).



NIV Genesis 19:9
   "Get out of our way," they replied. And they said, "This fellow came here as an alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We'll treat you worse than them." They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.
 
 
Not much has changed, has it! 
 
Sounds as though Lot's PROTEST riled their feathers way back then just as today's protest have agitated their pink boas now!

155 posted on 07/18/2004 5:33:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah; Gabz; Moosehead; sinkspur
The only homosexual who speaks out against the "gay" agenda is Tammy Bruce.

Well, there's Camille Paglia, who is a libertarian gay -- that drives the total to two! But Camille's a libertarian, not a Leftie. She's more a blue-collar, union-label Democrat with a girlfriend. It's the Left tradition, not the libertarian tradition, to bash people over the head and pull all that Saul Alinsky attention-getting crap.

You're right about the cruise -- it's a kind of demonstration. "Hey, look at us, we're lovin' life and havin' fun --- and screw all you hets who aren't HRC-positive!" It definitely has a political dimension. And the Bahamians were well within their rights to object to being made scenery in a gay street play.

One other quibble: "Nazi" does not equal "right wing". The National Socialist German Workers' Party was a Left party -- a socialist party that, with themes of nationalism and national betrayal, reached out to former Army officers as part of their program of power-seeking.

Moosehead: Actually, discussing the Nazis in a context where we are discussing gay-radical politics and propaganda (and the cruise had a propaganda element, otherwise Rosie would have advertised it to lesbians in lesbian media and not gone public about it) is fully appropriate, inasmuch as the founders and leaders of the NSDAP and their "street" wing, the SA, were overwhelmingly homosexual or bisexual. Ernst Roehm, the leader of the SA, was a brutal and sadistic pederast who went through the Hitler Youth like a hot knife through butter, and the SA command staff were all pretty much the same way -- when they weren't catamitizing for Roehm.

There have been lots of fascist movements -- Belgium had one, there were the Falangists in Spain and Mussolini in Italy (his daughter Alessandra is living testament to Il Duce's heterosexuality -- he typically had 10-12 women a day), there were the Silver Shirts in America (the Nazi Club at Harvard was the biggest in America, in 1940 -- and it was big!), and even Britain had Oswald Moseley. But none of them ever remotely approached the viciousness and bloodthirstiness of the Nazi upper crust. The $64,000,000 question is -- did the viciousness of the Nazi leadership have something to do with their homosexuality rather than their political programme? They were studiedly antisemitic -- now why was that? Couldn't have been a way of "getting even" for Leviticus and Judaeo-Christian norms of propriety, could it?

So the next time someone draws a comparison of the "Human Rights Campaign" to the Nazi Party, think before you answer. The tactics are very similar -- hell, Madsen and Kirk told their gay readers in The Guide that they were going to copy Goebbels -- the ferocity is very similar, the Act Up! tactics are very similar, and quite frankly the hatred of mainline, "non-reconciling" Christianity mirrors the ferocity with which the Nazis, in power, bullied dissenting Christians, consigning many of them to concentration camps. And the pink triangles? Homosexuals who wound up in the camps weren't there just because they were homosexual -- oh, no, it wasn't quite that simple. They were homosexuals who didn't toe the Nazi line, gays like Tammy Bruce and Camille Paglia who didn't go along for the ride. That's who got the pink triangles.

The Nazis were objectively evil; their acts personified it. The gay "rights" campaign is doing many of the same things the Nazis did during their rise to power, and I predict that they, too, will attempt to persecute "non-reconciling" congregations and individuals. Fred Phelps may be a cranky circus act, and he may even be a provocateur as someone suggested up the thread -- but if the gays win it all and Hillary becomes president, there's a prison cell in Fred's future.

And if I thought there was a prison cell in my future because of what I believe, I'd be cranky, too!

156 posted on 07/18/2004 8:24:18 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Honi soit qui mal y pense.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur
Oh, great. You're a self-labeling "Whatever" Republican.

[You, quoting me] I'd rather spend time arguing with Michael Moore

[You, dumping a shoulder] Then argue with him, dummy. Instead, you argue with me.

I argue with you because you're the kind of Republican who's worse than an enemy. Guys like you give the store away, mumbling "whatever" as you turn over the keys to West Point.

157 posted on 07/18/2004 8:27:53 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Honi soit qui mal y pense.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: dsc
If all a homo wanted was "to be left alone," you wouldn't even know he was a homo--because he'd keep it to himself. The very fact that you know he's a homo tells you that he wants *more* than to be left alone. He wants good called evil and evil called good.

And if you don't go along with him, he'll try to get your job -- or at least get you to shut up, whatever that takes.

Bingo bump.

158 posted on 07/18/2004 8:29:43 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Honi soit qui mal y pense.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | View Replies]

To: Gabz
It is the vicious, outspoken positions such as you take that makes many of those who just wish to be left alone to start becoming vocal about being left alone.

Then why are you complaining about dsc and not the gay fascists? They started all this, they've been merchandising their cause for 15 years now with heavy, committed media support for the last 10, and it's completely their issue?

And you pick on a defender?

159 posted on 07/18/2004 8:33:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Honi soit qui mal y pense.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
I do hate the radical "gay" agenda, and if I am condemned by you or others for speaking my mind, then I can only conclude that those who condemn me approve of the "gay" agenda.

I have no idea where you think I am condemning your for your position on the "gay" agenda, nor where you get the idea that I approve of it. I do neither.

What I do condemn is the broad brush many use to paint all homosexuals as approving the activist agenda. It is no different than saying all Democrats are leftist socialists and all Repbulicans are members of the religious right.

Generalizations in general are not a great way of convincing others of one's position.

160 posted on 07/18/2004 8:36:11 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 145 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 241-251 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson