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Elton attacks 'censorship' in US
BBC (via Drudge) ^ | July 17 | BBC

Posted on 07/17/2004 7:56:58 AM PDT by mcg1969

Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out against war in Iraq because of "bullying tactics" used by the US government to hinder free speech.

"There's an atmosphere of fear in America right now that is deadly. Everyone is too career-conscious," he told New York magazine, Interview.

Sir Elton said performers could be "frightened by the current administration's bullying tactics",

The singer likened the current "fear factor" to McCarthyism in the 1950s.

"There was a moment about a year ago when you couldn't say a word about anything in this country for fear of your career being shot down by people saying you are un-American," he told the magazine.

The singer said things were different in the 1960s.

"People like Bob Dylan, Nina Simone, The Beatles and Pete Seeger were constantly writing and talking about what was going on.

Backlash

"That's not happening now. As of this spring, there have been virtually no anti-war concerts - or anti-war songs that catch on, for that matter," he said.

He voiced concern that it appeared acceptable to speak out if you were pro-Bush, using the example of country singer Toby Keith, but not if you were critical of the President, as in the case of country rock band, the Dixie Chicks.

"On the one hand, you have someone like Toby Keith, who has come out and been very supportive of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq - which is OK because America is a democracy and Toby Keith is entitled to say what he thinks and feels.

"But, on the other hand, the Dixie Chicks got shot down in flames last year for criticising the president. They were treated like they were being un-American, when in fact they have every right to say whatever they want about him because he's freely elected, and therefore accountable."

Sir Elton is currently in New York playing a series of concerts.


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Elton can kiss my butt... no, scratch that.

Seriously, these guys just need to get over it. The backlash, if any, is coming from the PEOPLE, not the government. And that is entirely justified---and it is certainly not unconstitutional censorship.

If an entertainer wants to entertain, fine. But if they want to mix politics in, too bad for them if people just don't like it, and suddenly they aren't entertainers anymore.

1 posted on 07/17/2004 7:56:58 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969
The singer said things were different in the 1960s

Yes, thank God, things are different from the 60's.
2 posted on 07/17/2004 7:59:05 AM PDT by x1stcav (http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/photo_gallery.asp)
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To: mcg1969

Good......


3 posted on 07/17/2004 7:59:25 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: mcg1969

What a wanker


4 posted on 07/17/2004 8:00:10 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: bert

One more thought......Anti war is politically incorrect.


5 posted on 07/17/2004 8:00:11 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: mcg1969

The jerk should follow Laura Ingraham's advice.


6 posted on 07/17/2004 8:00:24 AM PDT by x1stcav (http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/photo_gallery.asp)
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To: mcg1969
Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out...

(shrugging shoulders) Yeah? So?

7 posted on 07/17/2004 8:02:15 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: mcg1969

How fast he has forgotten who made him famous.....and who could take all that away from him just as easily. These famous stars just continue to shoot themselves in the foot.....and blame W for their own problems.


8 posted on 07/17/2004 8:04:21 AM PDT by illiac
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To: mcg1969

As far as I know, the government has completely ignored the Dixie Chicks, not even commenting on their behavior. If they have suffered, it's because they have offended their fans.

If there is any censorship in the arts today, it all comes from the left. People can wreck their careers by coming out in favor of President Bush, but nobody in Hollywood is going to wreck their careers by supporting the Two Johns, unless they happen to have a conservative fan base.

As for the charge of McCarthyism, maybe Sir Elton hasn't heard that Anne Coulter has pretty cut the ground out from under that creaking leftist canard in "Treason."


9 posted on 07/17/2004 8:04:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mcg1969
It isn't that things were that different in the 60s, it is just that, back then, we didn't realize that the marginally talented folks who were sided with the enemy were faggots, communists, anti-Americans or being paid by other interests to try to destroy the US.

Back before this flamer got wealthy and began to believe his own highly paid PR, he probably spoke only of things he knew something of, unlike today.

10 posted on 07/17/2004 8:05:06 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: x1stcav
"He voiced concern that it appeared acceptable to speak out if you were pro-Bush, using the example of country singer Toby Keith, but not if you were critical of the President, as in the case of country rock band, the Dixie Chicks."

You'd think he'd figure out that this means that Americans don't agree - in fact very much disagree - with today's Hollywierd lefties.

11 posted on 07/17/2004 8:05:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: mcg1969

Just STFU and sing.


12 posted on 07/17/2004 8:05:57 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Were those magic grits?)
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To: mcg1969
These people just can't seem to grasp the fact that the "war" lasted about 4 weeks (ending in May 2003), and what we've had since then is little more than a glorified police action against Islamist terrorists. And now that the power transfer is complete there really isn't too much to whine/protest about anymore. This is what sickens them more than anything -- our success.
13 posted on 07/17/2004 8:06:06 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: mcg1969
if he were HONEST, he would say those flitty stars are scared to speak out because they realize their views are CONTRARY to the views of the "little people," to quote her majesty martha......that free speech ISN"T free...there is a price for everything.

whether they are willing or not to pay the price reveals how much more they care about money and a career rather than defending something they believe to be true.

14 posted on 07/17/2004 8:06:23 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: mcg1969
Sir Elton said performers could be "frightened by the current administration's bullying tactics",

Elton, you are a flaming idiot.

The administration is doing absolutely nothing. WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who are deciding that we will or will not support big mouthed idiots by buying their products.

If they are willing to alienate half their customer base as were the dixie twits that is their right. And it is my right as a alienated fan to stick my hard earned dollar back in my pocket and go elsewhere.

But unlike your friend BC speaking out against this administration does not result in a visit from the IRS or USSS. Put down the crack pipe and learn the difference.

The administration didn't get Whoopi fired, I did.

The administration didn't get the dixie chick off Country radio, I did.

Me. Jane Q Public. And I am proud of it.

15 posted on 07/17/2004 8:06:30 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (This uniform needs something; something that says I'm here to destroy you, but with a sense of fun)
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To: mcg1969

Who is Elton John to come over here and open his ignorant yap about censorship??? This idiot and all of the Hollywierd leftists don't seem to understand the difference between CONSUMER backlash and government censorship.

To date, not a single leftist entertainer has faced government censorship or even government suppression of their anti-war/anti-Bush comments.

Perhaps if a few more of them were as smart as they think they are, they would spend a little more time reading their Civics books and develop a better understanding of government, rights, etc., etc. - all the stuff they have become self-declared experts about.

As for Elton - he has just proven that all he is is a KNIGHTED British twit.


16 posted on 07/17/2004 8:06:44 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: mcg1969
But, on the other hand, the Dixie Chicks got shot down in flames last year for criticising the president

And who shot them down? The PEOPLE!

'Celebrity' is nothing more than a popularity contest, so if you say something unpopular, (bzztt) you lose.

The sooner these my-poo-don't-stink cankers learn that, the better.

17 posted on 07/17/2004 8:06:55 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Freedom is NEVER negotiable!)
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To: mcg1969
What freakin' planet is Elton John from?

All I hear is anti-war, anti-Bush bigotry from the American Left by the minute.

Several months ago, he calls American Idol racist. The top two contestants were Black!

Perhaps bending over too much results in loss of blood to the brain.

18 posted on 07/17/2004 8:06:56 AM PDT by lormand (Save the Whales? Call a Democrat! Save the World? Call the Republicans)
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To: bourbon; WKB; wardaddy; onyx; dixiechick2000

Memo to Elton Jane:

You are not an American Citizen. Your opinion about American politics means nothing.

No one here gives a rip what a fat grandma foreigner like you thinks.


19 posted on 07/17/2004 8:07:49 AM PDT by Yudan (FRY Mumia)
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To: mcg1969

I didn't change channels quick enough after Dennis Miller last night, and caught his intro on the McEnroe show....Elton John is approaching Michael Moore in the tonnage department.


20 posted on 07/17/2004 8:08:01 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: mcg1969


>>>"There's an atmosphere of fear in America right now that is deadly. Everyone is too career-concious."<<<

I clearly remember that day I read about Elton John marrying a woman. Valentines Day late 80's. I laughed so hard and to this day, I call him Little Rock(Hudson). Talk about "career-concious"!


21 posted on 07/17/2004 8:09:19 AM PDT by ishabibble
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To: mcg1969
The difference between now and the 60s? The rock stars in the 60's didn't hire themselves out to shill for products---and they didn't license their music for commericial use.

When you do that, you run the risk of having your lucrative paydays shut down when the "little people" complain about your obscene, hate-filled rants.

22 posted on 07/17/2004 8:09:48 AM PDT by John Thornton
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To: mcg1969
Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out against war in Iraq because of "bullying tactics" used by the US government to hinder free speech.

Hey, Sir Fag-a-lot! Name ONE thing the USG has done to hinder free speech -- especially in music! Just ONE! Can't do it? That's because the rejection of anti-American hate speech is coming from the people themselves!

This is not 'Nam. This war was brought to US. And we intend to win it. And that starts by supporting the war efforts.

Compare this to the 40's not the 60's.

23 posted on 07/17/2004 8:10:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: mcg1969

Elton,you are such a fancy lad.


24 posted on 07/17/2004 8:11:03 AM PDT by brad76
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To: mcg1969
Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out against war in Iraq

Apparently not scared enough .... yet.

25 posted on 07/17/2004 8:12:10 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: mcg1969
The only "stars" afraid to speak out are anyone who's remotely conservative for fear of being blacklisted culturally and economically by the self-righteous "liberal" fascist management of tinsel town.

Being conservative or Republican in Hollywood is professional death.

26 posted on 07/17/2004 8:12:16 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: ishabibble
>>>"There's an atmosphere of fear in America right now that is deadly. Everyone is too career-concious."<<<

When talking about Elton, I think the correct quote would be "Everyone is rear-concious..."

27 posted on 07/17/2004 8:12:59 AM PDT by jscd3
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To: mcg1969
Artists should be afraid to speak out if by doing so their idiotic anti-Americanism offends their customers.

On the other hand, think of what Elton is saying here: "I have strong beliefs, but I'm willing to compromise them for money."

28 posted on 07/17/2004 8:13:15 AM PDT by Petronski (Twenty-nine Helens agree: Promptness is very important.)
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To: mcg1969

Boo hoo.


29 posted on 07/17/2004 8:13:19 AM PDT by hershey
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To: mcg1969

Yeah, right...the government MADE us send those e-mails to SlimFast


30 posted on 07/17/2004 8:13:48 AM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: Veggie Todd

Actually, don't sing. I never liked Elton John save for that song "I'm Still Standing" back in the early 80s which is kinda cool.


31 posted on 07/17/2004 8:18:49 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: Cicero

It never ceases to amaze me how these morons twist the facts and lie.

HEY ELTON & THE BBC:
IT WAS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT SHOT DOWN THE DIXIE CHICKS.


32 posted on 07/17/2004 8:20:53 AM PDT by Selene
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To: DustyMoment

He lives in Atlanta. He's been doing his "Red Piano" show in Las Vegas. He pays US taxes, why can't he speak his mind here too?

Maybe he'll use some of this invective on his next album? At least it has the chance of being vaguely social redeeming and *melodic* unlike the current Hot 100.


33 posted on 07/17/2004 8:21:01 AM PDT by newzjunkey (No more Floridas: Can "W" actually win this thing outright?)
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To: mcg1969
The mere fact that Lady Elton was unafraid to lay on this screed belies his premise. There is nothing more ironic than a celeb standing up and making a speech about being silenced.

If a star falls in a forest,
will anyone give a rat's arse?

34 posted on 07/17/2004 8:21:11 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: mcg1969
"Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out against war in Iraq because of "bullying tactics" used by the US government to hinder free speech."

Perhaps the simpering idiot will provide a single example of the *government" hindering free speech in this manner.

No? You mean the distinction between the government and the people is lost on this fool?

35 posted on 07/17/2004 8:21:26 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: mcg1969
Elton can kiss my butt... no, scratch that

Good thing you did, elton would have probably taken you up on that offer.

36 posted on 07/17/2004 8:22:49 AM PDT by Dane (Trail lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: mcg1969
Elton, of course, has stood tall with the Dixe Chicks, Bruce Springsteen, et al., by making antiwar, anti-Bush statements at his concerts and by the release of his smash hit single, "Give Saddam a Chance."

Oh, he didn't speak out and put his career on the line? Never mind.

37 posted on 07/17/2004 8:23:02 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: mcg1969
Uh....look Elton, the government isn't censoring anybody. It's the people who pay their hard earned money who are telling these idiots to STFU. We have that right you know, here in America WE can decide what to spend our money on and we choose to stop spending on idiots who are too dumb to realize that we're in a fight for our lives.

These silly "entertainers" are too dumb to realize that there is a difference between the 60's and today. They all thought it would be such a lark to become the heroic anti-war protesters and they're probably quite confused about the fact that most of America is smart enough to see the difference.

38 posted on 07/17/2004 8:24:17 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: mcg1969

In the early part of WW II the Brits were getting their collective ashes bombed to pieces by Hitler. The hired a guy to run their Air Force and fight back. The first thing he said was " The Nazis are under the mistaken impression that they will bomb our cities but we won't bomb their cities. They are wrong." The liberals always assume that they can attack us and we won't attack back. They are wrong and they don't like it.
By the way, the feckless Brits fired Sir Arthur Harris about two mins after the war. They were embarrassed at the way he bombed the Gerrys into the stone age.


39 posted on 07/17/2004 8:24:52 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Ben Chad

Sir Elton is a sad old poofter..


40 posted on 07/17/2004 8:24:55 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: mcg1969
"...As of this spring, there have been virtually no anti-war concerts - or anti-war songs that catch on, for that matter," he said.

Golly, we could borrow Old Man Turner's barn and build a stage. Jane and Helen could decorate the old place up real nice. Jimmy could play Gramp's piano and we could get Tommy, Suzie, and the twins to do those routines from the Spring Dance. Joe could print up some tickets.

Gosh, we could have us a real anti-war concert and people would pay good money to get in. What 'ya say, gang? This could get take care of that old war thing forever.

41 posted on 07/17/2004 8:25:05 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant
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To: NonValueAdded
There is nothing more ironic than a celeb standing up and making a speech about being silenced.

Yeah remember when that goofy Mr. Sarandon gave the "chill wind" speach. I almost died laughing.

42 posted on 07/17/2004 8:26:06 AM PDT by Selene
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To: mcg1969

The gummints got nothin' to do with rejecting retards like Whoopee. There isn't much of an anti-war movement here because the reasons for war are clearer. What idiots we have are still speaking out. Some of them make movies, Elton.


43 posted on 07/17/2004 8:26:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: mcg1969

Political correctness is the Liberal's method of censorship. They created PC for the purpose of infringing on free speech.

Notice how many times and ways they raise PC issues when they are in an ideological argument.


44 posted on 07/17/2004 8:27:10 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: x1stcav

'The singer said things were different in the 1960s

Yes, thank God, things are different from the 60's"

Actually things aren't that different from the 60's. This is just more of the same only its older, spoiled, rich, brats complaining and protesting. Thankfully, some of us actually grew up.


45 posted on 07/17/2004 8:28:03 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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To: mcg1969
Sir Elton is out of touch, and out of facts. He doesn't realize that the type of "America" he supports has been giving lessons daily in "censorship" over the past 40 years; but now wishes to whine and complain about "censorship"? lol. Go back to Benny, Elton. Stay there.

P.S. I NEVER liked Elton John's music, even as a teen. Why? Too whiney.

46 posted on 07/17/2004 8:28:51 AM PDT by Alia
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He voiced concern that it appeared acceptable to speak out if you were pro-Bush, using the example of country singer Toby Keith, but not if you were critical of the President, as in the case of country rock band, the Dixie Chicks.

These people are delusional if they can not see the difference between what Keith said and what the Dixie chicks said.

And they are paranoid if they think it is the government that is shutting them up. It is the public and that includes and my Right To Free Speech to tell Elton to go ^%$%$# Himself and his music if I don't like what he says politically.

The greedy #@$@#$% doesn't even have the strength of his convictions to put his career at risk. How dare we make it so tough on him. Why, he should be able to say anything his little heart desires without any retribution from his fans or the public whatsoever.

Everyone, stand at attention and salute Saddam Elton John.

47 posted on 07/17/2004 8:28:58 AM PDT by BJungNan (RELEASE THE CELEBRITY HATE TAPES)
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To: mcg1969
Censorship?!? I think not. At least in this country we can still criticize homosexuality and Islam without being arrested.

For the time being, anyhow.

48 posted on 07/17/2004 8:29:39 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: mcg1969
Put a cork in it, Elton!

Oops. Nevermind.

49 posted on 07/17/2004 8:30:07 AM PDT by catpuppy (Kerry-Edwards! The vet and his pet.)
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To: mcg1969
Elton John has said stars are scared to speak out against war in Iraq because of "bullying tactics" used by the US government to hinder free speech.

This dumb@ss remark says it all. This freak is too stupid to figure out that it is the CONSUMERS who make their voices heard when dimwits like himself draw the ire of the masses. Too bad he doesn't really have anything to sell anymore, or he'd straignten up, shut his big mouth and behave in a NY minute.

Nothing to see here... Move along. Just another mega rich out of touch liberal elitist. Yawn.....

50 posted on 07/17/2004 8:30:09 AM PDT by demkicker
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