Posted on 07/21/2004 8:51:32 AM PDT by rpage3
Beyond the obvious, I've given this matter some thought and a few questions have occurred to me.
These are (1) why are former NSA's or administration officials allowed to keep clearances to see "classified" materials, shouldn't they be stripped of this once they leave office? We've heard that the reason Berger was at the NA was to sift through documents for the 911 commission, why him? Why not a member of the current administration e.g. Condi Rice? (2) the Democrats and their allies in the media are howling over the "timing" of this but what concerns me more is that Berger, his lawyer and maybe even the Kerry camp knew that this had happened since last October but it has taken 9 months for (a) Berger to offer his version of "I did not have a sexual relationship with that woman" and (b) for Kerry to distance himself from the man. So what's the deal? Berger never told Kerry he was being investigated or did he tell him and it didn't matter? If it didn't matter then, why does it matter now? What did Kerry know and when did he know it? Was he benefiting from the stolen info? The timing then is not about the 911's circus report but rather about when and how Kerry decided to separate himself from Berger. It appears that the only reason he's doing so NOW is because the news has been made public. In my opinion, this is the timing issue that really matters and it's one the Democrats need to ask about - of course, they never will.
Yes, well Breuer gave out a little to much info this am. he said this investigation began LAST Oct. That must mean he was stealing docs BEFORE OCT 2003. Now when did he testify. His story is that he was refreshing his memory. He testified a couple of months ago. When did he give his closed session testimony? I wonder if Kerry used some of the info in these Classified Docs to shut the Things (Clinton's) up? Evil Dums are very nasty, even to their fellow rats.
Darn good questions!
I used to accidental stuff my pockets full of books at the library all the time. I have tons of Classified Material from my years in the USAF SAC. NOT!
This is perfectly innocent and the lost documents weren't important anyway. How do I know this? Sandy said they weren't important. Can we ask for more than that?
It's "Berger", not "Burger".
Your thoughts are worth a great deal. These were things I was wondering too! :)
See also the "Kerry might have committed a crime" thread - there are allegations of Kerry possibly using material from Berger's documents in a Seattle speech.
ditto that!
I think it should be written "burglar".
With a lower-case "b" because he's not a very good one, as any inner city pre-teen shoplifter could have done a better job hiding the goods.
Another question: Why did this appear on the Kerry Campaign website, then mysteriously disappeared when the issue started getting hot?
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John Kerry Unveils Comprehensive Plan to Fight the War on Terrorism
For Immediate Release
Los Angeles, CA –
In a speech today at the UCLA International Institute, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry offered his comprehensive approach to fighting the global war on terrorism. In the second of a series of speeches on national security, Kerry presented a plan to identify, disrupt, and eliminate terrorist networks using all the resources at our disposal. As CIA Director George Tenet starkly reminded us this week, we are threatened by a far-flung terrorist network that will continue to operate even if Bin Laden is caught. Last December, John Kerry addressed the Council on Foreign Relations and outlined a global vision to make America safer and more secure.
Today, he is detailing the terrorism component of that vision, strengthening the nation’s position in the global war on terror.Kerry will act militarily when necessary, build strong alliances with other nations and enhance our intelligence and law enforcement capabilities. Kerry addresses the root causes of terrorism and offers a real plan to secure our homeland by safeguarding our chemical and nuclear facilities, bolstering port and aviation security, restoring 100,000 COPS on the street and adding 100,000 new firefighters in our communities.
“We cannot win the War on Terror through military power alone,” Kerry told an audience at the University of California at Los Angeles. “As President, if necessary, I will use military force to protect our security, our people, and our vital interests. But the fight requires us to use every tool at our disposal. Not only a strong military – but renewed alliances, vigorous law enforcement, reliable intelligence, and unremitting effort to shut down the flow of terrorist funds.”
“To do all this, and to do our best, demands that we work with other countries instead of walking alone. For today the agents of terrorism work and lurk in the shadows of 60 nations on every continent. In this entangled world, we need to build real and enduring alliances.”
“We need a comprehensive approach for prevailing against terror – an approach that recognizes the many facets of this mortal challenge and relies on all the tools at our disposal to do it.”
Kerry also criticized the Bush Administration’s failure to maintain the post-9/11global coalition, inaction in stemming the rise of terrorism and inadequate efforts to defend the homeland.
“Day in and day out, President Bush reminds us that he is a war President and that he wants to make national security the central issue of this election. I am ready to have this debate. I welcome it. I am convinced that we can prove to the American people that we know how to make them safer and more secure – with a stronger, more comprehensive, and more effective strategy for winning the War on Terror than the Bush Administration has ever envisioned.”
John Kerry outlined a seven-point comprehensive plan to fight the war against terror:
I. Use Direct Military Action: Kerry will use military force when necessary to capture and destroy terrorist groups and their leaders. He will also increase active duty end strength and tailor forces to be better prepared for post-conflict and stability operation.
II. Improve International Intelligence and Law Enforcement: Kerry will strengthen communication networks between intelligence agencies, build cooperative capacity with international law enforcement agencies, increase the number of linguists trained in critical languages and create a real Director of National Intelligence with budget and personnel power.
III. Cut Off the Flow of Terrorist Funds: Kerry will impose tough financial sanction against banks or nations that engage in money laundering or fail to act against it and will launch a “name and shame’ campaign against those that finance terror.
IV. Control the Spread of Weapons on Mass Destruction: Kerry will appoint a high-level Presidential envoy to lead the effort and expand the Nunn/Lugar program to buy up and destroy stockpiles of loose WMD materials.
V. Win the Peace in Iraq and Afghanistan: Kerry will bring real security in Iraq by broadening the coalition, including the United Nations, and creating a real Iraqi security force that can take care of itself and the people it is supposed to protect. In Afghanistan, Kerry would put forward a major increase in security and fund the promised a Marshall Plan for reconstruction.
VI. Win the War of Ideas and the Future of a Young Generation: Kerry will build bridges to the Arab and Islamic world by supporting and assisting human rights groups, independent media, and labor unions dedicated to building a democratic culture.
VII. Secure America's Homeland: Kerry will restore funding for the COPS program, add 100,000 firefighters to our streets, secure and protect our nuclear and chemical facilities, bolster port and aviation security.
John Kerry: Winning the War on Terror
I. An Integrated Strategy to Destroy Terrorists Groups
Terror is the principle threat we face. John Kerry will deny terrorists sanctuary in every cave and with every tool, by:
1. Direct Military Action. John Kerry will always be prepared to use military force when necessary to neutralize terrorists and drain the swamps where they breed.
• Deploy the Best-Equipped Forces Backed by the Most Accurate Intelligence. Kerry will increase the size of the special operations forces; and, increase training for peace-keeping missions so that failed states can be secured and terrorist sanctuaries denied. He will ensure that America’s fighting men and women always have the best equipment and information.
• Tailor Forces to be Better Prepared for Post-conflict and Stability Operations. Kerry will add more engineers, military police, psychological warfare personnel, and civil affairs teams to the military to ensure combat forces are not drawn away to fill roles that stability forces should fill -- and that a security vacuum does not threaten hard-won victories.
• Increase Active Duty End Strength. To better meet the needs of the War on Terror and America's global obligations, John Kerry has called for a temporary increase of about 40,000 active-duty Army troops: 20,000 in such specialties as military police and civil affairs, and 20,000 combat.
2. Improve International Intelligence and Law Enforcement. John Kerry will lead our nation in building strong international cooperation to ensure that America has the best information available and works effectively to cut financing for terrorist organizations.
• Strengthen Communication Networks Between Intelligence Agencies. Kerry will ensure that our intelligence agencies receive the most accurate and timely information through established channels with intelligence and law enforcement agencies in other countries.
• Build Cooperative Capacity with International Law Enforcement Agencies. Kerry will ensure that we are able to impart the latest and most effective techniques in battling terror to law enforcement agencies abroad as appropriate.
• Increase the Number of Linguists Trained in Critical Languages. A Kerry Administration will increase funding and training for linguists competent in critical languages like Arabic so that American intelligence agencies have the best, most timely and translated information about terrorist planning and staging.
• Create a Real Director of National Intelligence with Budget and Personnel Power. John Kerry will make the Director of the CIA the true Director of National Intelligence with real control of national intelligence personnel and budgets. John Kerry will also undertake and complete a national intelligence review immediately.
3. Cut Off the Flow of Terrorist Funds
• Impose financial sanctions against nations or banks that fail to cooperate in the effort to control money laundering. This is an urgent step to ensure that rhetoric is backed by the tough action required to cut the stream of terrorist financing.
• Launch a "name and shame" campaign against individuals, banks and foreign governments that are financing terror. Those who fail to respond will be shut out of the U.S. financial system. There will be no sacred cows as we take the steps that are necessary to protect America.
4. Control the Spread of Weapons of Mass Destruction.
• Appoint A High Level Envoy to Lead the Effort. John Kerry will ensure that the urgent and critical challenge of controlling the spread of WMD does not fall prey to inter-agency differences, and that a single individual is empowered to rally other nations to join an American-led effort to secure nuclear weapons and nuclear materials around the world.
• Keep WMD from terrorists by aggressively refocusing and expanding efforts to secure stockpiles of loose WMD materials. Kerry will lead in this effort, and create a new international protocol to track and account for existing nuclear weapons and deter the development of chemical and biological arsenals.
• Create a U.S.-Russian Commitment to Secure Russia’s Nuclear Weapons. Kerry will ensure that all of Russia’s nuclear weapons and materials are effectively secured within four years. He will significantly increase funding for Comprehensive Threat Reduction programs.
5. Win the peace in Iraq and Afghanistan. John Kerry will bring real security in Iraq and Afghanistan to prevent terrorists from reemerging in Afghanistan or establishing a base in Iraq.
• Broaden the Coalition in Iraq, Include the UN and Create Real Iraqi Security Forces for Stability. Kerry will do the tough diplomacy and hard bargaining to get more international boots and dollars and get the target off the backs of American troops. Kerry will rally the UN to help forge a transition to Iraqi sovereignty based on the need to build a stable democracy in Iraq. Kerry will be upfront about the costs, and he will make sure we meet our obligations fairly by rolling back tax cuts for the wealthiest and getting real international contributions.
• Restore Security in Afghanistan and Undertake the Promised Marshall Plan. Kerry would expand the ISAF force and extend its reach into the provinces; and increase the trainees in the Afghan National Army (ANA). Kerry would pressure donor nations to meet the aid commitments they made at the Bonn Conference. He would double our counter-narcotics assistance to the Karzai government and make available a team of American counter-narcotics experts to provide technical assistance.
II. Win the War of Ideas and the Future of a Young Generation
John Kerry’s plan for building bridges to the Arab and Islamic world recognizes the key challenge posed by burgeoning youth cohorts. America’s security demands that young people have a future of promise and opportunity that is a clear alternative to terror and extremism.
• Build Networks to Improve Education and Fight Brain Drain. Kerry will build closer integration between business communities and educational institutions so that curricula are developed and tailored to impart marketable skills to students. The project should build an infrastructure of knowledge and excellence that has suffered from brain drain and a dearth of important materials – from textbooks to news programming.
• Assist Civil Society Through Human Rights Groups, Independent Media, and Labor Unions. Kerry will ensure that the U.S. government works with the private sector and international institutions to help civil society groups and governments aid democracy, public participation, free expression, transparency and efficient economic management.
III. Secure America's Homeland
Recent reports have revealed alarming gaps in security procedures at our nation’s most critical facilities. John Kerry will secure out nuclear weapons storage sites, nuclear power plants and chemical facilities. Kerry will ensure our first defenders are equipped, that we can respond to biological attacks, and air transportation security is made safer.
1. A New First Defenders Initiative to Ensure Local Responders are Equipped and Ready. John Kerry will ensure that first defenders have the gear to do their jobs safely and effectively. John Kerry has proposed creating a new fund for fire fighters – named after a September 11th hero, Father Mychal Judge, the chaplain of the New York City Fire Department who died delivering last rites. The Father Judge Fund would be similar to the COPS program and will hire up to 100,000 new firefighters and to provide the equipment necessary to assure firefighters are prepared. Kerry also believes we must restore funding to COPS to realize its initial mission of 100,000 new police officers. This initiative would also develop appropriate standards for preparedness in our cities and provide resources so communities can meet these goals.
2. A National Homeland Health Initiative. America’s public health system has risen to important challenges before, but it lacks the advances necessary to detect or contain a major outbreak. John Kerry believes we must connect the nation’s public health systems with a real time detection system to pool patient data across the country. This initiative would also provide training in developing plans for a surge in patients. We also need to increase research – and bring together the best of the public and private sectors to develop broad-spectrum designer antidotes so that our first responders and our population can be protected and treated from the widest possible range of attacks.
3. Increase Port Security and Accelerate Border Security. Currently, 95% of all non-North American U.S. trade moves by sea, concentrated mostly in a handful of ports. John Kerry believes improvements in port security must be made, while recognizing that global prosperity and America’s economic power depends on an efficient system. Kerry’s plan would develop standards for security at ports and other loading facilities for containers and assure facilities can meet basic standards. To improve security in commerce, John Kerry believes we should accelerate the timetable for the action plans agreed to in the U.S.-Canada and U.S.-Mexico “smart border” accords as well as implement security measures for cross-border bridges. Finally John Kerry will pursue modest safety standards for privately held infrastructure and will help owners find economical ways to pay for increased security.
4. Secure Nuclear Power Plants, Nuclear Weapons Facilities and Chemical Facilities. John Kerry will appoint an Energy Secretary who takes nuclear plant security seriously and ensures meticulous follow-up to any security violations. He would also order an immediate review of engagement orders and weaponry for plant guards, and ensure attack simulation drills be as realistic as possible. A Kerry Administration would ensure that security of our nuclear weapons facilities is a U.S. government responsibility – not cede it to private contractors as the Bush Administration considered doing. A Kerry Administration will tighten security at chemical facilities across the nation that produce or store chemicals, focusing first on facilities in major urban areas where millions of Americans live within the circle of vulnerability.
5. Tighten Aviation Security and Combat Threats to Civilian Aircraft. John Kerry will close loopholes in existing regulations on cargo carried by passenger flights and increase the reliability of new screening procedures. Kerry will increase perimeter inspections of U.S. airports and work with international aviation authorities to make sure the same standards are in place at all international airports. He will work with our allies to crackdown on the sale of shoulder-fired missiles that could be used in an attack on civilian aircraft, and are sold on the black market.
Apparently the Kerrorist web site had what al Kerry would do to prevent terror here and his "plans" where very similiar to objectives/wording in the stolen documents.
That disappeared from his website yesterday afternoon.
However some freepers have copies of what was there. I'm sure that Homeland Security, the FBI, and the AG's office had copies before it was removed.
What did Berger steal, that ended up within the Komrade Kerrorist Kamp, (the new KKK)!
When did Kerry know about the data being stolen?
What did he use it for like for his political advantage like the Feb 2004 press conference with reporters and the stuff that disappeared from his website.
If he did any of the above, he has made Watergate look like a kindergarden kickball game.
Thanks for posting that as I was trying to explain what was on the Kerrorist Web site and then disappeared.
2. The investigation has not been continuing for 9 months because there is more evidence of the theft to be found. The eye witnesses, tapes, admissions, returned documents etc.. provide all of the evidence necessary to prove he intentionally took classified documents. It doesn't take the prosecutors more than a couple days to review the evidence, research the law and make a decision.
The reason for the 9 month delay is that Berger has been cooperating with the DOJ on a much wider investigation involving higher ups and foreign connections.
They frequently enter into consulting jobs for the government (such as Congress) that require a clearance.
We've heard that the reason Berger was at the NA was to sift through documents for the 911 commission, why him?Why not a member of the current administration e.g. Condi Rice?
Neither would be a good choice; a third party not associated with either administration should've done it.
What did Kerry know and when did he know it?
I asked this question yesterday.
Did you see that ghoul Arlen Specter comment on how the TIMING was suspicious??? Sheesh, he can't be counted on to support his own party EVER. To her credit, E.D. Hill steered him back onto the substance of the issue, otherwise Specter would have stuck with his Democrat-issued talking points. What a dolt.
We should all cut and paste that article, and send it to everyone we know, including all the talk shows, news media, etc. Above all, I want the Kerry campaign to explain which parts of his "policy" were directly stolen from the documents hidden in Berger's underwear?
Now who pray tell would make those assurances and who would have that authority????
Enquiring Minds Want To Know!
The investigation has not been continuing for 9 months because there is more evidence of the theft to be found. The eye witnesses, tapes, admissions, returned documents etc.. provide all of the evidence necessary to prove he intentionally took classified documents. It doesn't take the prosecutors more than a couple days to review the evidence, research the law and make a decision.
The reason for the 9 month delay is that Berger has been cooperating with the DOJ on a much wider investigation involving higher ups and foreign connections.
Do you know this for a fact ? If Berger is cooperating with the DOJ this could be the tip of a very ugly iceberg.
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