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Why don't white people mind being stereotyped?
The Charlotte Disturber ^ | 7/25/04 | TONYA JAMESON

Posted on 07/25/2004 7:20:04 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2

can't believe nearly a month after the Wayanses released "White Chicks," the only public criticism has come from a white country singer who was defending a comedian in blackface.

In the film, Marlon and Shawn Wayans play bumbling FBI agents who basically don whiteface to impersonate two rich white sisters. The movie parodies Hampton socialites, but it also perpetuates stereotypes that apply to whites of any economic level: whites can't dance, they're nonconfrontational, and the women are clueless and easy.

Blacks still face cultural stereotypes in entertainment, but picking on whites is annoyingly pervasive in entertainment geared toward African Americans. Too many young black comedians rely on the same stale white people jokes. Many black-oriented sitcoms, such as "The Parkers," have token stereotypical white people. But few whites speak out.

Okay, one. But if Ray Price is the voice of the concerned, then white people are in trouble. The 78-year-old country singer came under fire after a comedian in blackface opened his Louisiana show in July -- that's July 2004, not July 1940. Criticism from the Lafayette chapter of the NAACP prompted Price to complain about the double standard regarding the Wayans' film.

At least blacks had someone to challenge Price. Whites don't have a group such as the NAACP watching the media and speaking out against how whites are portrayed in entertainment. About the only groups speaking up for whites are white supremacists -- and their credibility is, well, you know, zero. I was recently an adviser at a summer camp for high school students. One exercise involved the high schoolers dividing into their ethnic groups. The goal was for them to define their culture, identify what makes them proud and create a performance that illustrates pride in their ethnicity.

As it happens each year, the Caucasian group had a difficult time defining their culture and finding things to be proud of.

"White Chicks" gives these students one less reason to be proud.

An NAACP for whites could speak out against "White Chicks" and provide an alternative voice to the movie critics who praised the film.

The 1986 movie "Soul Man" came under some criticism from the NAACP. It starred C. Thomas Howell as a white student who posed as a black man to win a minority scholarship to Harvard.

The NAACP's national office sent letters advising its chapters to ask members not to support the film. Benjamin Hooks, NAACP president at the time, publicly criticized the movie.

Granted, the protest of "Soul Man" wasn't a national boycott, but it was better than nothing. And nothing basically is all I've heard regarding criticism of "White Chicks."

It doesn't even take something as egregious as a white person wearing blackface to anger African Americans. In the last year, journalists criticized white reporters at two newspapers who wrote stories in hip-hop vernacular. The game Ghettopoly was pulled from youth-oriented retailer Urban Outfitters because some black clergymen and the NAACP complained it stereotyped blacks.

Yet "White Chicks" can degrade whites and rake in nearly $50 million.

I'll admit the movie has some funny scenes. The "You Got Served"-style dance-off at a night club and the big black guy singing Vanessa Carlton's "A Thousand Miles" cracked me up.

Those moments, however, don't excuse the movie's obvious stereotypes and the more underlying notion that two black men can somehow teach white females how to be better women. In the movie, the Wayans brothers pose as the Wilson sisters and teach real white socialites how to stand up for themselves against other snobby rich girls and how to dump an undeserving boyfriend.

Negative portrayals of whites in entertainment isn't as detrimental as the consistent degradation of blacks in the media. I doubt a white man lost a job at Bank of America because he couldn't dance. But the silence from whites regarding television shows, movies, comedians and music that belittle white culture sends a subversive message to Caucasian kids that they shouldn't speak up when their ethnicity is being insulted.

I want white children to take as much pride in their culture as I take in mine.

Tonya Jameson

tjameson@charlotteobserver.com; (704) 358-5047.


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KEYWORDS: moviereview; naalcp; racism; turass; whitechicks
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The writer is black. She asks a lot of good questions - questions that have gone (publicly) unasked for generations. I think they deserve well-intentioned Freeper feedback.
1 posted on 07/25/2004 7:20:05 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Eccl 10:2

Sticks and stones.


2 posted on 07/25/2004 7:22:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Apologies. The article starts with:

"White people -- rise up.

I can't believe nearly a month after the Wayanses released "White Chicks"..."


3 posted on 07/25/2004 7:23:16 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Eccl 10:2

We learned from our mothers, "Sticks and stones..."

Also, I know who I am. The claims of others don't change who I am.


4 posted on 07/25/2004 7:23:35 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: cripplecreek

lol...we think alike.


5 posted on 07/25/2004 7:24:13 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Another good question: Why don't Jews mind laughing at themselves? (I know the answer, but I'm Jewish.)


6 posted on 07/25/2004 7:25:03 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: bannie

You might be a redneck.... if you can get over it.


7 posted on 07/25/2004 7:30:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: Eccl 10:2
It's been my experience that many stereotypes are rooted in a bit of truth. By definition alone, a stereotype is a gross exaggeration or oversimplification of something.

If one wants to change how people see them, then one must change themselves, from either an individual or pluralistic point of view.

8 posted on 07/25/2004 7:30:35 AM PDT by PurVirgo (Never fight with a pig. You only get dirty, and the pig loves it!!)
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To: Eccl 10:2
I want white children to take as much pride in their culture as I take in mine.

In today's regime of political correctness, that isn't permitted. Whites - and all elements of traditionally White culture - are actively suppressed. If one so states, one risks being accused of being a Nazi.

9 posted on 07/25/2004 7:32:27 AM PDT by neutrino (Hermes: God of trade and thieves.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I have noticed that Jews make fun of themselves all the time. There is nothing really unusual about that except they are probably better at it than most.


10 posted on 07/25/2004 7:32:37 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Eccl 10:2

Can't dance? Dead on and who cares....clueless? Debate me and find out. Easy? Hit on me and find out the hard way. Non Confrontational? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA keep thinking it...and go back to all the above :-) Why don't I care? Bc the stereotypes are ludicrous.


11 posted on 07/25/2004 7:33:08 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (Why are you looking at me so funny? He's just a rat...)
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To: Eccl 10:2
Why don't white people mind being stereotyped?

Could be, they [we] have better things to do than get ooooo-fended over name-calling.
12 posted on 07/25/2004 7:33:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Eccl 10:2
In the first "Men in Black" movie, Will Smith's character, during his testing, shoots a carboard cutout of eleven year old white girl in the forehead. His explanation is that she's a little white girl in the ghetto at 2 am with Quantam Physics books, and that those books are way too advanced for her.

I've always wondered what the reaction would have been if Tommy Lee Jones' character had shot an eleven year old black girl in the forehead, and explained that she was in a white neighborhood with books that were too advanced for her.

BTW, I think the reason there hasn't been that much reaction to the "White Chicks" movie is because it bombed, and also, of course, because reverse discrimination is acceptable to the media elite.

13 posted on 07/25/2004 7:34:01 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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14 posted on 07/25/2004 7:34:05 AM PDT by mhking (John Kerry & Al Gore: Cut from the same tree.)
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To: bannie

Well, actually, that old "sticks and stones" things is NOT true. Words can AND DO hurt; it just depends on who speaks the words.

Words from some anonymous twit don't matter. Words from family/friends do hurt. Children especially.

That said, whites have better things to do than stand around and be "offended."


15 posted on 07/25/2004 7:35:05 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Eccl 10:2
I'm a white, green-eyed, natural blond but I'm not a victim. I think a lot of blond jokes are hilarious and because I'm blond, everyone sends me blond jokes. I don't take offense because I don't think I'm a dumb blond but I HAVE done a few dumb things in my life. I can laugh at myself. If anyone is stupid enough to believe in stereotypes, I probably don't want to know them.

Humor is usually just taking the every day occurrence and exaggerating it. It contains some truth but it isn't the truth and we all recognize someone or ourselves in it and that's what makes it funny.

16 posted on 07/25/2004 7:35:44 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Eccl 10:2

Perhaps the real question to be asked here is "Why is everyone ELSE so damned thin-skinned?"


17 posted on 07/25/2004 7:36:35 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Under the personal care of the Great Physician...full coverage.)
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To: Eccl 10:2
...small price to pay for being born white....wink...nudge...snicker....
18 posted on 07/25/2004 7:37:24 AM PDT by AndrewB
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To: Eccl 10:2

Who says I don't mind?


19 posted on 07/25/2004 7:38:13 AM PDT by beef ("Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth.")
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To: tiki
I don't think I'm a dumb blond but I HAVE done a few dumb things

So, would that include using white-out on your computer screen? :-)

(Ducking for cover).

20 posted on 07/25/2004 7:38:53 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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