Posted on 07/26/2004 5:26:27 AM PDT by runningbear
At least the fishing expert guy appears to have been a success. He said yes, it was quite possible to push a living 150 lb. sturgeon out of a 14-foot boat.
The defense is acting like he went out there on the Bay on an air mattress or something.
Well, when we have a legal luminary like Geraldo insisting on calling Geragos "the master lawyer", what can we conclude?
Ans.: That there is no proof Geragos is anything of the kind--considering that Barrister Geraldo cannot even define the difference btw circumstantial and direct evidence.
Now, let's see... I heard that Cuanang established that he should've had bait (which he didn't), he had a totally inadequate anchor (should've used one that had a claw to grip the bottom of Bay), his fishing rods were for freshwater, not saltwater, he was trolling and trolling at that season is illegal....
Oh, but that doesn't MEAN Scott wasn't innocently fishing for sturgeon!!!
HEY! Just because he doesn't have a clue how to fish for sturgeon doesn't mean he's a MURDERER!
Don't feel bad! Even Scott's SIBLINGS are probably confused about Scott's siblings!
Jackie and Lee got together in a sort of "yours, mine, and ours" type of union. Lee had something like 3 children from his wife, whom he divorced. They were Joe, Susan, and another one whose name escapes me.
Rumor has it that Lee's wife was pregnant at the time he left her for Jackie. Don't know if this is true or not.
Jackie, whose own upbringing sounded essentially like a shambles, had a child out of wedlock who was adopted and lives now in PA. Name is Don Chapman, and long ago he took to the airwaves to defend Scott. Then Jackie had another child out of wedlock, also given up for adoption. She is Anne Byrd, who reportedly adores her baby half-brother Scottie and Anne lives in BERKELEY.
Then, apparently around the time she was beginning to date Lee (?), Jackie had another child named John. I have no idea who John's father was.
Then Lee and Jackie got together (John was preschool at the time, I think) and it is said they married. Then they had Scott. See how simple it is?
I know that legally Scott is "cloaked in the presumption of innocence" (as judges like to say), but his cloak is becoming increasingly like the Emperor's new clothes!
Whether one likes or dislikes Fuhrman, it is obvious that he is a very clever investigator, with a very good mind. There is no doubt that the defense saw that early on, and decided they had to "assassinate" Fuhrman. Which they proceeded to do.
Oh, are they back on that business about how he thought his you-know-what was too small??
No, silly! The rumor was that Lee's wife was pregnant when Jackie and Lee first took up together--not when Jackie and Lee were having Scott!
Anyway it's just a rumor.
People wonder if the two kids being given up for adoption might have affected Scott. I doubt it, since he was probably not told about it when he was a young child. But one thing's for sure: it has to have affected Jackie.
And I can't help but think that what it did to Jackie ultimately colored the way she treated her youngest, Scott.
I'd like to ask those those who keep parroting that Geragos is a great lawyer: What has he done that is great?
Grandstanding, nastiness, asking the obvious questions (some no doubt fed to him by others), making false promises and accusations, having hissy fits, and deliberately distracting the jury from the prosecutors points does NOT make a great lawyer.
This (especially the last point and his unreasonable requests for a mistrial) do, however, indicate he fears losing and the exposure of his own competence.
In the unlikely case that there is a hung jury, it will be in spite of Geragos rather because of him.
Oh, and let's not forget how Geragos has manifested his considerable legal talents in other cases! Let's see, back b/f Michael Jackson fired him, he went on TV and essentially THREATENED potential witnesses against Jackson.
Wow, wow, wow, what TALENT! Yeah, it takes real finesse to threaten people...
I can't believe that it's such a controversy whether he could dump his wife's 150-lb. pregnant body off that boat w/o tipping it!
As they said on misfitting.com a month or so ago, all he'd have had to do was push her over the back end of the boat!
People can stand up in those boats, too. And also Geragos spent a lot of time asking one witness if the water actually got quite shallow between Brooks Island and the shore. The witness agreed that it does. Scott might even have stood at the side of the boat, in the water. They found that he had waders!
Keeping this thread for the day.
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Scott Peterson's Alibi Attacked at Trial
Scott Peterson's Alibi Attacked at Trial
Scott Peterson's Alibi on the Day Laci Disappeared Under Question As Jury Hears From Fishing Expert
The Associated Press
REDWOOD CITY, Calif. July 27, 2004 Scott Peterson's alibi was attacked at his murder trial as prosecutors questioned his choice of bait and anchor the day he said he went fishing on San Francisco Bay, the same day his wife was reported missing.
Prosecutors maintain Peterson wasn't fishing for sturgeon and striped bass on Christmas Eve in 2002, but instead used the story as a cover to dump his pregnant wife's body into the bay.
Commercial fisherman Angelo Cuanang led the jury Monday through his conclusions about the defendant's story: Peterson's gear was all wrong and his homemade cement anchor wouldn't have held his boat against the bay's currents.
During cross-examination, however, Cuanang conceded that it wasn't unusual that an amateur angler such as Peterson might make a trip without preparing like a professional.
Cuanang first said he wouldn't look for sturgeon near the Berkeley Marina, where Peterson launched his boat. Furthering the prosecution's theory, Cuanang said a knowledgeable fisherman would use bait to catch sturgeon, but Peterson only brought artificial lures.
"Would you say this rod is rigged .........
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FISHERMAN SAYS SCOTT'S STORY SMELLS
FISHERMAN SAYS SCOTT'S STORY SMELLS
By HOWARD BREUER
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July 27, 2004 -- REDWOOD CITY, Calif. Scott Peterson didn't have the right rod, reel, bait or anchor necessary to catch the roughly 100- pound sturgeon that he told police he was fishing for the day his pregnant wife, Laci, disappeared, a professional fisherman testified yesterday. Commercial fisherman Angelo Cuanang, who writes books and teaches seminars about fishing, testified on the 29th day of Peterson's double-murder trial that Scott needed a seven-foot pole with a 40- to 50-pound test line, a leader of 60-pound test cable, a four-ounce weight, and a double-hook with large live shrimp.
Peterson used two light-action rods and an artificial lure when he traveled 90 miles to the Berkeley Marina on Dec. 24, 2002.
"Inside the bay, no, I wouldn't use this kind of lure," Cuanang told the jury.
He added that Peterson needed a heavy claw-style anchor to avoid drifting. Instead Peterson used a homemade, pail-shaped cement anchor.
The bodies of Laci and the couple's unborn .......
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More witnesses heard at Peterson trial
More witnesses heard at Peterson trial
7/27/2004 8:33 AM
By: Capital News 9 web staff
Jurors heard testimony about life insurance and fishing gear in the Scott Peterson case Monday.
A life insurance salesman said he sold the Peterson's $250,000 worth of life insurance policies in 2001. He testified that the policies he recommended to the couple were made out to each other and it was Laci, not Scott, that pushed for the $250,000 figure.
In other testimony, a commercial fisherman said the San Francisco Bay spot where Scott Peterson claims he was fishing for sturgeon when his wife disappeared, is not known for sturgeon. He also said the best way to catch sturgeon is with bait, but Peterson had only artificial lures.
Peterson's rod and ........
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Fishing expert says Peterson had wrong tackle
Fishing expert says Peterson had wrong tackle
Scott Peterson faces the death penalty if convicted of the murders of his wife and unborn son.
By Harriet Ryan
Court TV
REDWOOD CITY, Calif. The San Francisco Bay's preeminent sturgeon fishing expert testified Monday that it was all but impossible for Scott Peterson to catch one of the massive fish with the equipment he carried to the bay the day his wife vanished.
Prosecutors called Angelo Cuanang, a commercial fisherman and author of two guides to sturgeon fishing, to cast doubt on the double-murder defendant's angling alibi.
The prosecution contends the 31-year-old fertilizer salesman used the Christmas Eve 2002 fishing trip as a cover story to dispose of his wife Laci's body.
When initially asked by police what he was fishing for in the bay, 90 miles from his Modesto home, Peterson could not answer, officers have testified. Later, Peterson said he was in search of sturgeon and striped bass.
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Fishing Expert Used Against Peterson's Alibi
Fishing Expert Used Against Peterson's Alibi
Scott Peterson's boat took center stage in court Monday.
Simon Perez
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A fishing expert took the stand in the Scott Peterson double-murder trial Monday, and told the jury that one person could dump a 150-pound fish from a boat like the one Peterson owned without tipping over into San Francisco Bay.
The testimony from Angelo Cuanang is important because Laci Peterson weighed about 150 pounds when she went missing on Christmas Eve 2002. The prosecution contends that Scott Peterson dumped Laci's body from his boat into the bay.
Cuanang also testified that Peterson went to the wrong place with the wrong bait and poles to catch sturgeon on Christmas Eve. Perhaps more importantly, the experts said that an anchor found in Scott Peterson's warehouse wasn't heavy enough to hold the boat still.
"The anchor was too small to be used as an anchor for that boat," said legal expert Michael Cardoza. "Therefore, they want the jury to believe it was used to weigh down Laci Peterson when she was thrown overboard by Scott Peterson."
The Petersons' financial advisor also testified Monday. Brian Ullrich said he suggested that Scott and Laci take out life insurance policies on each other. Ullrich also said it was Laci's idea to increase her policy's value from $100,000 to $250,000 -- not Scott's -- and that Scott never made a claim on Laci's policy...........
LOL.....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
LOL! He probably thinks only an insane person would be this stupid.
LOL, he's the fool, then! Crazy people can be very smart!
IIRC, Brian Ulrich was also a personal friend of Scott's.
IMO, that may have colored his testimony.
When I listened to Geragos shouting at the cameras that "he was going to come down like a hammer on anybody who said anything about his client" I thought he sounded so foolish. That is NOT Lawyer/legal talk. That's a big mouth attempting to pass as Lawyering by bully tactics. Never works in the end. As we see, he was fired.
In fact I do believe that there has been testimony that the particular model of Game Fisher boat that Scott bought is actually quite stable.!!
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