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Rep. Todd Tiahrt's (R-KS) son found dead (suicide)
Here on FR | 7/26

Posted on 07/26/2004 6:10:15 PM PDT by TheBigB

U.S. Rep. Todd Tiahrt's youngest son, Luke, was found dead Saturday morning in the family's Fairfax, Va., home.

Tiahrt's spokesman Chuck Knapp said 16-year-old Luke apparently committed suicide.

Officers were called to the Tiahrt house around 4:30 a.m. No foul play is suspected, said Fairfax County Police spokeswoman Mary Mulrenan.

A medical examiner will perform an autopsy to determine the cause of death, Mulrenan said.

Luke Tiahrt would have been a junior in high school this fall. Funeral arrangements are pending.

Todd Tiahrt is a Republican from Goddard who represents the 4th District in Congress.

The Tiahrt family is asking for privacy and prayers.

Condolences can be sent by e-mail to Tiahrtcondolences@mail.house.gov or by regular mail to the congressman's Wichita office, 155 North Market, Suite 400, Wichita, Kan., 67202.


TOPICS: US: Kansas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: obituary; suicide; tiahrt
Awful, awful.
1 posted on 07/26/2004 6:10:16 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: Dan from Michigan; henderson field; Slings and Arrows; TruthNtegrity

Truth, I hope you don't mind my posting this. I read what you put in that other thread and thought it was worth wider distribution. The Tiahrt family needs our love and support now.


2 posted on 07/26/2004 6:11:31 PM PDT by TheBigB (OUT OF THE ASHES by William W. Johnstone...READ IT!!!)
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To: TheBigB

Prayers on the way for his soul and his friends and family.


3 posted on 07/26/2004 6:15:04 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: TroutStalker

Ping


4 posted on 07/26/2004 6:19:01 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: TheBigB

How completely sad. Suicide: a permanent solution to a temporary problem.


5 posted on 07/26/2004 6:22:07 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: TheBigB
Indeed sad; privacy and prayers should be given. It is a very hard time for kids to be growing up. I'm glad I'm not young anymore.
6 posted on 07/26/2004 6:33:10 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: TheBigB

Tiahart's grandparents were from my hometown in South Dakota. Prayers and condolances for his family.


7 posted on 07/26/2004 6:38:32 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: TheBigB

Prayers for the family and for everyone who knew and loved the young man. What a terrible tragedy.


8 posted on 07/26/2004 6:40:00 PM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: TheBigB

My prayers are with the family.


9 posted on 07/26/2004 7:00:42 PM PDT by no dems (I obey whatever the voices in my wife's head tell me to do.)
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To: TheBigB

It is possible that it was NOT suicide but an accidental death from "auto-erotic asphysiation." Reports are that the boy hung hinself. no further information has been given. If this was the cause, I hope the Tiharts can find the courage to warn other families of this dangerous practice.


10 posted on 07/27/2004 4:10:19 PM PDT by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: eccentric

Luke's death was definitely NOT auto-erotic anything. Luke had experienced the same chain of events that most guys his age go through and for some reason, thought it was the end of the world. I've seen these boys grow up in the lime light of politics. They sacrifice time after time as their father sacrifices for WE the people of the State of Kansas. Luke was a casuality of war. He lost the chance at a "normal" childhood the same as a child who looses a parent in war. Many of us take sides against candidates to the point of actually hateing their existance but too few are the times we see the sacrifices they are forced to make at their families expenses. It wasn't an erotic fantasy of Luke's that killed him. He was a casuality of the war to keep Kansas from falling into destruction. Todd marched into a war when he went into politics. Whether his ideals are right or wrong he took his sword and shield and marched ahead onto the front line. He gained HIS purple heart through the fatal wounding of his youngest son. Luke will forever be remembered and loved.


11 posted on 08/26/2004 5:36:04 PM PDT by Courier229 (NOT auto-erotic)
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To: Courier229
thanks

I didn't mean the question as an insult. Either way, it is still very tragic

12 posted on 08/27/2004 6:16:24 AM PDT by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: eccentric

I'm sorry. I over reacted. It's so hard to come to grips with something like this when you have so little to go on. I held Luke at the hospital when he was born. I watched him grow up and was so proud of him. To be honest, all of us who knew him are looking for a reason to pin it on; some reason to make our consciences eased from not giving him enough hugs or telling him just how much he meant to us, or even that we loved him. It probably wouldn't have made any difference to him but then again, it might. If anyone knows how an adult can adequately tell a teenage boy how much he is loved to the point that he genuinely understands, please respond. Zig Ziglar said that by the age of 12, American boys have received at least 90% less hugs and kisses than American girls. We stand by. We don't say what's on our hearts because of how it might be perceived. We keep burying those who feel they are unloved. We shouldn't pity Luke any less than we pity ourselves. Go find a teenage boy and let him know hes of value to your life. Take a risk, throw in a hug to boot..... Believe me, it's better than taking flowers to a grave.


13 posted on 08/27/2004 10:01:10 AM PDT by Courier229 (NOT auto-erotic)
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To: Courier229

I am so sorry for your loss, Courier. Prayers to the Tiahrt family as well.

Sometimes there just aren't answers, as hard as that is to accept. After more loss than I care to think about in the past seven years -- to include both parents, other family members and too many good friends -- I wish I had the answers. And I am only 37 years old but loss seems to be part of my world at the moment! Only thing that has gotten me through is faith.

As for raising boys, I have two beautiful sons and I faithfully try to follow Dr. Dobson's advice in his books, particularly on raising boys.

Perhaps, in a way, the loss I have experienced has brought me to a very important truth -- that there is nothing, absolutely nothing more important than being a wife and mother. It won't say on my tombstone that I wrote really great press releases. It will say, Wife and Mother. And my legacy is those two precious boys. Indeed, they are the legacy for their entire ancestry.

So whenever things start to encroach upon my world a bit too much, I stop and play with the boys. Nothing quite put things into perspective like playing with toddlers.


14 posted on 08/27/2004 10:17:07 AM PDT by ConservativeGadfly
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To: Courier229
You are SO RIGHT about giving boys hugs. I have six nephews and I don't care if they like my hugs or not. They have gotten use to it because I started from their birth. They NEED hugs just like anyone else. I don't care what anyone says or what THEY SAY. They NEED them.

BTW, it doesn't make "sissies" out of them by hugging them. All six of mine are ALL BOY. Feminists have tried their best to trash every male on the face of the earth. I will NOT tolerate it! "Girls Rule" came directly from feminists. NO THEY DO NOT RULE! I happen to be a female and I DON'T want to "rule". I want men, in my life, to be respected. We all live in this world TOGETHER. Everyone should be respected and NO ONE sex should "rule". Being told that from birth makes for a very selfish person whose demands and realities will NEVER be met.

As I was shopping recently almost every display window had some type of girl's trashy clothing with STUPID remarks about girls being superior to boys and slutty sexual remarks. It makes me sick! What kind of "parent" ALLOWS their children to wear this junk?
15 posted on 08/27/2004 10:24:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: TheBigB

I'm nearly crying as I type this. NOTHING can be so bad that a 16 year old should take his life.

As others have said, sometimes there are no explanations, preventions, or cures.

I think back to being 16 as pretty much about the most wonderful time of my life. Free of (serious) responsibility, chasing girls, driving my Jeep around town like I owned it, etc.

Some kids want to be grown-ups. Take it from a "grown-up", kids - more adults want to be kids again. I'd go back in a heart beat.

Live your life, go to football games (and the parties that ensue afterwards), pine after cheerleaders, learn about the world.

YOUR'S is the life, trust me. Don't ever, EVER give it up so willingly. No problem is so big that it can't be solved.


16 posted on 08/27/2004 10:28:03 AM PDT by FlJoePa (Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.)
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To: eccentric
I have to admit, I've overwhelmed with the responses here. A lot of really nice things have been said. I talked with the surviving son the other day. His world came crashing to a halt. He's 19 and he needs to make some solid decisions about his life and now he has this fog of darkness that has come over his entire family. I'm a Christian and I believe in the power of prayer. That's out advantage, we can cruise the net and find those in need and instead of just pity, we can actually do something real in their lives, so if you're out there and want to help, pray for John that somehow all this doesn't have a negative affect on his plans for the future.

By the way, I saw John. I stood 6 feet away when I said goodbye and left. I did NOT hug him. I did NOT look him in the eye and say how much I care about his life. Pray for me too. Why is it that in America, males have to put on this stupid "tough guy" persona? I talk big and know what's the right thing to do, I just am so afraid of how it will be perceived that I don't do it.
17 posted on 09/02/2004 7:47:59 AM PDT by Courier229 (Thanks)
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To: Courier229

Prayers coming for this devastated family. I cannot imagine their pain. As for your own feelings of guilt, let it go. There was nothing you could have done and I'm sure this young man would be the first to tell you that.


18 posted on 09/02/2004 7:50:59 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Helen Thomas, Molly Ivins, Maureen Dowd - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: Courier229

Something for you all to consider that hasn't been addressed here yet. Imagine a conservative, anti-gay senator's son having to deal with his own sexuality, especially if he were, as Luke was described, "sensitive, artistic...". Might Luke have been trying to come to terms with his own homosexual feelings, perhaps?
Could anyone even begin to imagine how that subject would have been dealt with by his parents? Teenage suicide is still often seen as an option to those who are unable to come to terms with their sexual identity. Faced with being an embarassment to his own father, it wouldn't be too difficult to envision Luke seeing suicide as a solution, would it?


19 posted on 01/30/2005 4:04:27 PM PST by resideinthe4th
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