Posted on 08/02/2004 3:58:04 PM PDT by Renfield
>>These so-called "crevo" threads serve as a perfect example of the extra-scientific nature of the "debate".<<
I believe that is part of the authors point...
You remind me of Bible thumpers like Sharpton.
I'm not going to defend the Koran or discuss it after this post. But since you asked, here are some links about prophecies in it and of other religions. Consider the gauntlet thrown back at you. You are welcome.
http://www.crystalinks.com/islamic2.html
http://www.sahajayoga.org/propheciesfulfillments/
http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/islam/IS3W0400.pdf
Sir, you can present mud in a courtroom. That doesn't make it evidence. You can present evidence, and that doesn't mean it supports your case. These are technicalities which I'm sure are lost on you; but, which are not lost on people who use their heads for more than hat racks. How you can make something appear isn't what makes the case. And as another similarly stated here - describing the walls of a nonexistant house doesn't present to us the house that we may touch and walk through. I Double-majored in Math, Majored in science because of my interest in physics. I do very much understand these ideas. Hype and theory are not proofs either.
So you can present something and call it evidence, but that don't make it evidence. Nor does it mean it lends you any support. I took logic too. You might look at the 1st chapter of any good logic book on how to construct an argument.
This is not a process which will enhance our understanding of the universe.
I see we've slipped away from the subject "origin of species."
Show me the fossils!!!!
I'm really interested in those of god and the 'missing link'. If there is no fossil record of a missing link = none ever existed. No fossil record of god = he/it never existed.
He's just tired of the long fight against lies and ignorance, such as your earlier statement that evolution can't be duplicated in the lab.
"you aren't going to defend your statements". Wrong. Again.
"Nothing of worth in Hindu prophecies". How do you know? You haven't even read a SINGLE Hindu book. And, all the prophecies about physics and mathematics, that have come true - worth nothing? Amazing what blinderss some folks have on. Facts should not interfere with dogma after all.
"Maths and physics evolve separate from religion" Just shows how ignorant you are. Both Vedanta and Buddhism consider physics and mathematics to be integral to spiritualism. Which is why they both support evolution and the Big Bang.
The rest of your post is worthy of a sermon in a church, but gives no credence to the discussion at hand.
That last link is incredibly damning of the Koran. The other two are interesting to a degree. The middle one reminded me: Did you know there is a lot of investigation going on right now about the Christianity that seems to have interjected itself into Hinduism in some regions of the east since Peter headed east?
Heh, heh... Needing the "big guns" are we? 8^>
There are no transistional forms. Except the ones that so called scientists make up, and that changes from time to time becuase they discover "evidence" that disproves their previous guesses. So they come up with new guesses and the baloney from them starts all over again.
The author neither defines "species" nor gives evidence for such a claim.
And a good thing too! Just in the area of North American birds, of which there are less than a thousand species, I can recall at least ten major disputes about speciation. It used to be thought that Baltimore orioles and Bullock's orioles are the same species. Molecular biology now shows they're not even closest relatives. The common towhee was one species, and now is two. The slate colored Junco was several species, and now is one. Ditto the yellow rumped warbler. The crossbill may actually be a complex of at least nine almost indistinguishable but reproductively isolated species.
Nobody with the slightest practical experience of biology would make such an idiotic statement as the one you quoted.
I, and thousands of others, cite Archaeopteryx as an example of a transitional fossil; it has a mix of reptilian and avian features. Explain to me why I'm wrong.
Let me ask you a question, and please answer as honestly as possible:
What piece of evidence, if found, would you consider convincing (concerning evolutionary theory)?
Maybe he enjoys the elegance of the process. It seems that you are anthropomorphizing God to a blasphemous extent. What makes you think that God has the same motivations as you?
This reminds me of my little sister, who when hearing something she didn't like would stick her fingers in her ears and chant 'La La La, I can't hear you'.
Archaeopteryx is a tranjsitonal form. There are scores of others known. Deal with it, and reserve the chanting for whatever superstition you adhere to.
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