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Swift Boat Vets on Hannity Radio Show after 4PM EST

Posted on 08/05/2004 12:59:35 PM PDT by Darkwolf377

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: hannity; swiftboatveterans; talkradio
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Comment #181 Removed by Moderator

To: Interesting Times
To me this proves the Kerry campaign (DNC) as tone deaf. Most people don't leap to the rolodex/Outlook to throw a 36 page lawyerly rebuttal when they are accused of a falsehood.

Who is going to be the first interviewer to ask Kerry directly about this?

Somehow, I think Mr. O'Neill is quite capable of defending himself in court.

The better angle of this is "When confronted by an opponent the Kerry campaigns FIRST response was to threaten to sue. Do you Mr/Ms Voter think Al Queda is afraid of lawyers?"


TS Regards,


182 posted on 08/05/2004 3:04:32 PM PDT by The Shrew (A dollar a day won't cure your addiction to FR but it will make you feel better. Join me!)
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To: whatever___whatever

I appreciate you noticing. It is consuming me at the moment to say powerful things in a playful manner.

As far as Kerry goes, I'd sooner have Bill Clinton back. Clinton was just a draft dodger. Kerry is a traitor. Clinton knew when he was lying. Kerry believes his own lies.

Even the libs I know don't like Kerry. I will pray for a Bush landslide victory this November.

I got to drive home now.


183 posted on 08/05/2004 3:09:39 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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To: Interesting Times
The book is loaded with jarring material. I expect it's going to get quite a bit of attention.

I ordered my copy a few days ago. At that time, I figured that it would get the same media treatment as Gary Aldrich's book. After reading Chapter 3,however, I agree that it will get plenty of attention from all sides. It will be very difficult to refute and hopefully, will pressure Kerry to authorize complete release of his military records. This book is a blockbuster. It shows how shallow and unscholarly Brinkley's book, Tour of Duty, is. If I were Brinkley, I would stop calling my self an historian.

184 posted on 08/05/2004 3:11:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Bahbah
He knows he's really got the goat of many of the Vets because of the lies he told about them when he came back. Did he honestly believe they would not step up when he started trying to ride this pony to the White House? These are Vets, not some bunch of cowards or America haters. Why didn't someone see this coming. I am utterly baffled.

IMHOKerry's people DID see tyhis coming that is why they took the tact they did to try and blunt the accusations up front
They had no other choice cause it was comin
This effort by the vets had to be started long before the convention
185 posted on 08/05/2004 3:12:39 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Darkwolf377

You're GREAT! Thanks for the play-by-play. Bookmarking for indepth reading later.

186 posted on 08/05/2004 3:13:57 PM PDT by shezza (Rice up the butt, huh?)
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To: Darkwolf377

>>Hey, I want full credit for the RICE UP THE BUTT WOUND phrasing! I'm calling John Edwards to copyright it this minute!!! :P <<

My FRiend, you deserve it!
I did medical transcription and I could not have done as great a job as you did!

187 posted on 08/05/2004 3:14:25 PM PDT by netmilsmom (A penny saved is a government oversight.)
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To: Interesting Times

Thank you for the site. You are doing very important work for our country and most especially for the men who have served her honorably.

188 posted on 08/05/2004 3:15:23 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: Paloma_55




189 posted on 08/05/2004 3:21:17 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Sola Veritas

One of them was obviously holding the camera for him. If they were in "combat", how could they work the camera and their weapons??? Nobody in my squad operated a camera while we were taking fire.

190 posted on 08/05/2004 3:29:30 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: Darkwolf377

Hannity: ... served with John Kerry in Vietnam, and Scott Swett is with us, he's a webmaster for Swift Boat Vets and, uh, they came out with this ad.  Now ... let me play the admission of Kerry, where he admits he committed atrocities and get your reaction to this, guys:

Kerry: ... yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities that thousands of other soldiers have committed, in that: I took part in shootings in free-fire zones; I conducted harassment and interdiction fire; I used 50-caliber machine guns which we were granted, ordered to use; I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages ...

Hannity: He also admits he violated the Geneva Convention.  Uh, Admiral Hoffman, what do you think of what you just heard?

Adm. Hoffman: ... well, I think he's lying.  He may have com... what he did himself, that's his business.  But when he starts accusing his shipmates, we have in that division he was in, there were 23, uh,  officers - there were 25, 2 are now deceased - of those 25, only one supports him to this day.

Hannity: Admiral, you mean one of the 25 Swift Boat guys

Adm. Hoffman: That's correct, his peer ONC's, the officers in charge, the same, uh, same position that he held

Hannity: Only one in twenty five?

Adm. Hoffman: One in 25 ... well, 2 are deceased, so we'll say one in 23.

Hannity: One in 23 ... Van, I mean ... I mean, is it possible - you were serving with him - you never saw him commit an atrocity, you never saw him burn a village.

Van: I never, I never saw a village, a friendly village burn.  What I saw was, when we found VC hootches full of weapons or contraband, we burned those.  But to go into a village or to fire in a village didn't happen.  As a matter of fact, there were times that we withheld fire even though we were receiving fire because civilians were in the way.  Ah, we weren't going about there willy-nilly; we had missions, specific missions, and we went and carried those out in the highest traditions of the Navy.

Hannity: Alright, let me ask you this, then, because this new book and we're going to have the first interview on this program next week, Unfit For Command, Swift Boat Vets speak about John Kerry with John O'Neill, in this book, in ah, it is claimed that Kerry earned his Silver Star by killing a lone, fleeing teenage VietCong in a loin cloth [garbled] that upon his command, numerous small animals were slaughtered by heavy caliber machine guns, and, uh, that he ran around with a Zippo lighter, burning up an entire innocent village. Is that, er, I mean he admits to doing that, is that the case; were you there for that?

Van: I was not there for any of those incidents.  I do know that he, he shot the Vietnamese in the loin cloth, who had already been shot by his machine gunner ..

Hannity: Wait a minute, you saw this?

Van: No, I heard of it happening from his crew.

Hannity: Now explain what you heard had happened

Van: that, uh, that the young boy had already been, been aiming a rocket at them but the machine gunner had caught him in, in the legs and had shot him up pretty bad.  And that Kerry went around and then fired and, and killed him at that point.

Adm. Hoffman[???]: Sean, that probably doesn't qualify as a war crime and I'm not sure anybody is claiming that ...

Hannity [talking over]: yeah, that doesn't sound like one to me ... I would openly admit that but, ah

Scott[?]: Sean, I was, I was involved in helping put the book together, and uh, one, one of the things that it focuses on is, Kerry is trying to blame the atrocities - he's not admitting to atrocities - he's saying that the entire US military structure was systematically committing atrocities ...

Hannity: No, no, no, that's a separate thing, he said, you just heard him in his own voice saying "I commited atrocities" ...

Scott[?]: Yes, "as did thousands of others"

Hannity: Yeah,  but he says "I burn villages" so, I'm uh, you know I ...

Scott[?]: "that we were ordered to do"

Hannity: Ok, so

Scott[?]: Its the orders he wants to place the focus on

Hannity: Alright, so, but the point is if he did these things and he violated the Geneva Convention, and he committed atrocities, does he not have a responsibility to say no ... I mean, Admiral? I mean, do you know of any orders to burn villages? ... of innocent people?

Adm. Hoffman: No, of course there were no such orders.  It's also worth noting that since Kerry was running around with a film crew all the time that, if he had atrocities to film its astounding that he didn't get any footage of that, instead of just him walking around with a gun.

Hannity: Alright, I got a lot more to get to with you guys, um, and I got to take a break ... we have a hard break coming up here ... and, uh, Van, by the way is a gunners mate, served with Kerry, you're gonna be on TV tonight ... and we got the other side of that debate ... and we're going to show you the latest poll numbers on Hannity & Colmes tonight [segue into break]

191 posted on 08/05/2004 3:50:38 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I actually was going to throw like a man before I threw like a girl." JFK 7/25/2004)
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To: NonValueAdded

You're a lot better at this than I was! Well done!

192 posted on 08/05/2004 3:57:46 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377
Yes, but I'm transcribing from a tape recording and you were doing it live. Your part was great for the live thread and helping all those cubicle bound FReepers. I'm doing this for the record to catch all the nuances, as it were :)

What a team!

193 posted on 08/05/2004 4:01:44 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I actually was going to throw like a man before I threw like a girl." JFK 7/25/2004)
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To: faithincowboys

> That DNC muzzle letter is really disgusting.

Yep. It will cause lots of people to go to the
site, and if unresponsive, go to:
right-click, save-as, and share with friends.

194 posted on 08/05/2004 4:07:36 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Searching4Justice

Check out post #156!! Copy of fax from Dim Attorneys regarding Swift Boat Vets ad....

195 posted on 08/05/2004 4:10:41 PM PDT by BossLady (Kerry/Edwards - They talk so much crap you need two Johns.......)
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To: 1066AD
What did Hoffman say ?


Retired Adm. Roy Hoffmann, head of the Swift Boat group, said they respected McCain's "right to express his opinion and we hope he extends to us the same respect and courtesy, particularly since we served with John Kerry, we knew him well and Sen. McCain did not."


196 posted on 08/05/2004 4:23:53 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("It's just a movie. ... I'd rather go to the bar across the street." - Kid Rock, on Fahrenheit 9/11)
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To: SquirrelKing
they respected McCain's "right to express his opinion

I predicted several days ago McCain would pull this BS
197 posted on 08/05/2004 4:26:25 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: NonValueAdded

Drudge has it all:
Swift Boat Veterans For Truth Responds To Senator McCain
Thu Aug 05 2004 17:10:20 ET

"Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has more than 250 members, many of whom were wounded or highly decorated in Vietnam.

We purchased with our blood and service the right to be heard, to set the record straight about our unit, and to tell the truth about John Kerry's military service record.

We respect Senator McCain's right to express his opinion and we hope he extends to us the same respect and courtesy, particularly since we served with John Kerry, we knew him well and Senator McCain did not."

Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann (ret.), Founder and Chairman of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

198 posted on 08/05/2004 4:34:42 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: BossLady

sounds like the Clintoon thing all over again ......guess its the same folks behind the new LKL is going to bring down the DEMONcrats ?.........just fed in 566 coke cans in the machine....MEDIC !!!!

199 posted on 08/05/2004 4:47:47 PM PDT by Searching4Justice
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To: stumpy

"Nobody in my squad operated a camera while we were taking fire."

Amen! Certainly not and live to talk about it.

200 posted on 08/05/2004 4:48:15 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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