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McCain: Hanoi Hilton Jailers Used Kerry Speech Against Us
NewsMax .com ^ | 8/05/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 08/05/2004 5:11:24 PM PDT by kattracks

Sen. John McCain attacked a group of Vietnam veterans on Thursday for their appearance in a campaign ad condemning Sen. John Kerry for betraying his fellow soldiers, calling the commercial "dishonest and dishonorable."

But McCain himself complained about Kerry-led anti-war protests when he was released from the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" 31 years ago. In piece he wrote for the May 14, 1973, issue of U.S. News & World Report, the POW-turned-senator charged that testimony by Kerry and others before J. William Fulbright's Senate Foreign Relations Committee was "the most effective propaganda [my North Vietnamese captors] had to use against us."

"They used Senator Fulbright a great deal," McCain wrote - a reference to Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony that U.S. soldiers were committing war crimes in Vietnam as a matter of course.

He said Kerry political ally Sen. Ted Kennedy was "quoted again and again" by his jailers at the Hanoi Hilton.

"Clark Clifford was another [North Vietnamese] favorite," McCain told U.S. News, "right after he had been Secretary of Defense under President Johnson."

"When Ramsey Clark came over [my jailers] thought that was a great coup for their cause," he recalled. Months earlier, Sen. Kerry had appeared with Clark at the April 1971 Washington, D.C., anti-war protest that showcased his testimony before the Fulbright Committee.

"All through this period," McCain told U.S. News, his captors were "bombarding us with anti-war quotes from people in high places back in Washington. This was the most effective propaganda they had to use against us."

McCain biographer Paul Alexander chronicled the Arizona Republican's anger toward Kerry during their early careers in the Senate together.

"For many years McCain held Kerry's actions against him because, while McCain was a POW in the Hanoi Hilton, Kerry was organizing veterans back home in the U.S. to protest the war."

In his 2002 book, "Man of the People: The Life of John McCain," Alexander says that the two Vietnam vets finally reconciled in the early 1990s after having "a long - and at times emotional - conversation about Vietnam" during a mutual trip to Kuwait.

Later, Kerry sought to minimize the rift, telling Alexander: "Our differences occurred when we were kids, or at least close to being kids. It was a long time ago, and we both came back and realized that there were a lot of difficulties in the prosecution of that war."



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hanoihilton; hanoijohn; kerry; mccain; vvaw
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1 posted on 08/05/2004 5:11:26 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

It's important for John McCain to explain himself.

The swiftboat veterans for truth issued this formal reply to McCain today:

SWIFTBOAT VETERANS RESPOND TO MCCAIN
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | August 4, 2004 | Swiftboat Veterans


Posted on 08/05/2004 10:15:28 AM PDT by RobFromGa


Quote from Drudge Report

Swift Boat Veterans For Truth Responds To Senator McCain
Thu Aug 05 2004 17:10:20 ET


"Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has more than 250 members, many of whom were wounded or highly decorated in Vietnam.

We purchased with our blood and service the right to be heard, to set the record straight about our unit, and to tell the truth about John Kerry's military service record.

We respect Senator McCain's right to express his opinion and we hope he extends to us the same respect and courtesy, particularly since we served with John Kerry, we knew him well and Senator McCain did not."

Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann (ret.), Founder and Chairman of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.


2 posted on 08/05/2004 5:14:58 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: kattracks

How does McCain know it's dishonest? What does this hack know about honor? Who cares about anything he says?


3 posted on 08/05/2004 5:20:54 PM PDT by isrul
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To: kattracks

I posted several days ago McCain would pull this BS


4 posted on 08/05/2004 5:30:24 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: kattracks

McCain has "Senatitus".

Nobody is allowed to say anything bad about the sacred 100 in the Senate.

How McCain can say the Swift Boat guys are lying when he wasn't there is beyond me.

Arizonans, when will you finally rid us of this jackass RINO?


5 posted on 08/05/2004 5:34:41 PM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: zip; BOBWADE

ping


6 posted on 08/05/2004 5:37:52 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: kattracks

McCain stays up nights trying to think of something to get his face in front of cameras. IMHO he is weird and creepy.


7 posted on 08/05/2004 5:40:21 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: isrul

Send McCain an email asking why he didn't denounce Moore's movie and demand Kerry do the same. This is no time for conservatives to stand down.


8 posted on 08/05/2004 5:42:54 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: isrul

Wouldnt be the first time McCain has broken faith with Vietnam Veterans or the American People...
Even McCain Feingold - CFR (the almost laughable Campaign Finance Reform for example)

Of course anyone who voted for it or signed it broke faith with America

imo


9 posted on 08/05/2004 5:44:54 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: kattracks

Of course once upon a time Kerry was the 'Ken Star' of
Iran Contra Mena
Perhaps the PTB owe him "A Solid"
imo


10 posted on 08/05/2004 5:46:48 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: uncbob; BOBWADE
I posted several days ago McCain would pull this BS

Many of us have felt this way for a long time. We wondered how long it would be before he would bash President Bush (who he hates) and now we see the back door move backing sKerry which is the slap at W that we expected. </ramble off

11 posted on 08/05/2004 5:46:59 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: kattracks
This article has been posted to DoctorZin’s New News Blog!


12 posted on 08/05/2004 5:51:46 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: kattracks
Hey, I'm no fan of McCain's. He's Captain Queeg as far as I'm concerned. "The strawberries, the strawberries..."

But, by making a big deal out of this McCain has shed a LOT of light on it. That's good as as I'm concerned. McCain is putting Kerry in a position where he has to defend himself.

If Kerry has any guts, if he is a real brave man, I'd like to see him sit down with John O'Neill and debate again as they did so many years ago.

13 posted on 08/05/2004 5:51:52 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: isthisnickcool
If Kerry has any guts, if he is a real brave man, I'd like to see him sit down with John O'Neill and debate again as they did so many years ago.

GREAT idea! I'd pay $$ to see that debate.

14 posted on 08/05/2004 5:54:38 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: kattracks

McRino can't help it, it's who he IS!

15 posted on 08/05/2004 5:58:14 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: lonevoice

We respect Senator McCain's right to express his opinion and we hope he extends to us the same respect and courtesy, particularly since we served with John Kerry, we knew him well and Senator McCain did not."

McCain is a Flip-Flopper just like Kerry. He'd be better served to keep his mouth shut on this matter. He wants to be a pubbie today and a dimocrit tomorrow. Kerry's actions only hurt him, but he seems to defend him at every juncture. It's BS.


16 posted on 08/05/2004 5:58:42 PM PDT by conshack
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To: kattracks

Senator McCain,
What is it that you don't like about the Swiftboat Vet's advertisement?
Are you in a position to question ANYTHING those vets have to say about Kerry?
Are you upset that the ad is effective?
Did Kerry promise you a job if he's elected?
If you had been on any of those swiftboats working with Kerry, or in his command, wouldn't you feel qualified to assess his performance?
Do you approve of Kerry's behavior after returning from Vietnam?

Former USAF Sgt. 1971-1974
(46350)
Sincerely,
Laurence J.


17 posted on 08/05/2004 6:00:55 PM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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To: kattracks

keep this quote going. Maybe McCain doesn't remember saying it after he said it. Mmm, sounds like someone else we all know.


18 posted on 08/05/2004 6:01:31 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: kattracks

WHERE'S THE VIDEO????? Seems the "uncrusted younger and more honest" McCain speaks a different language than the "good ole boy" club member he's become.


20 posted on 08/05/2004 6:06:50 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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