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Yes, it's an abortion
Herald Sun ^ | 8th August 2004 | Andrew Bolt

Posted on 08/07/2004 6:42:40 PM PDT by naturalman1975

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1 posted on 08/07/2004 6:42:40 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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2 posted on 08/07/2004 6:47:40 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: cpforlife.org; Salvation

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3 posted on 08/07/2004 6:49:20 PM PDT by no more apples (God Bless our troops)
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To: naturalman1975
Mind you, her faith was shaken, not least when a doctor described what it was like for him to kill an older fetus in the womb, and then dismember it so it could be pulled out, limb by small limb.

At the very least I hope they have hellacious nightmares for the rest of their lives.

4 posted on 08/07/2004 6:49:47 PM PDT by lawgirl (is RNC bound! W here I come!)
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To: GetZarqawiNow
Technology will solve the abortion problem. As more and more women see what is kicking around inside them they will see the truth. Isn't computer enhanced ultrasound just neat?

Fighting a loosing battle ___AT THIS TIME___ with the media is a looser.

After a few more years, technology will have educated people to the truth and abortion will fade away as an issue. Abortion will simply ban itself.
6 posted on 08/07/2004 6:56:14 PM PDT by snooker
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To: GetZarqawiNow

I will always be haunted by a film of a forced abortion done to a Chinese rural woman who was over the limit. (I can't remember if it was her 2nd or 3rd).

Our social studies teacher showed it to us in high school. I'm glad he did but with me it was like 'preaching to the choir'.

She was at least 5 or 6 months along by that point. Very upset, of course. That was the worst part. They didn't show the actual abortion, just her laying on the stretcher waiting. Just the thought of someone killing my baby would be enough to send me over the edge. By that far along the baby has been kicking for quite some time and one grows rather attached.


7 posted on 08/07/2004 6:58:02 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: naturalman1975

I'm stunned.
They called "it" a baby.


8 posted on 08/07/2004 6:58:26 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - you've been warned.)
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To: naturalman1975
Abortion is the vilest murder possible. The slaughter of innocents made palpable by the self serving lie that the baby is not a baby but a collection of tissue, a "Choice". When the Supreme Court ruled that Roe V. Wade made abortion legal and a choice, we truly turned our back on God. The last time we did that was Dred Scott.
9 posted on 08/07/2004 6:58:36 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: no more apples; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

10 posted on 08/07/2004 7:01:15 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (am I) a part of the cure, or am I part of the disease, singing…You are, you are)
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While the program mentioned is not available in the US at this time you can see a very powerful one on the subject from a Pro-Life and Christian perspective. It is on-line and only 9 minutes long. See below.

Introduction to video:

"The video you are about to see, unmasks the terrible truth that abortion is an act of violence which kills a baby. And the violence is spreading. As happened to black civil right activists in the 1960s, peaceful pro-life demonstrators are now routinely being savaged by police attacks. If you think that's just inflammatory rhetoric, the next 6 minutes may change your mind.

Some of the children we'll show you represent typical nine and ten week abortions. Because abortions are never committed prior to the sixth week of pregnancy, every child abortion kills is already so fully formed that her heart's beating and her brain’s producing brain wave activity. Many of the babies you'll see however range in age through the second and third trimesters of pregnancy. Most were taken from garbage bags, removed from a dumpster behind an abortion clinic in Houston, Texas. They've been included to emphasize the sickening fact that the vast majority of all abortions are committed simply as a means of birth control.

We also want you to understand that convenience abortion is legal throughout all nine months of pregnancy.

Some might ask why a video of this sort should even be necessary. The answer can be found in the gruesome films, used to teach about a Nazi holocaust against the Jews. Teachers don't show bloody World War II footage to manipulate students emotionally. They use it because the Nazi death camps represented an evil so inexpressible that lectures alone could never adequately describe it. The abortion holocaust is no different. Everyone instinctively knows that abortion is evil, but many mistakenly believe it's often the lesser of two evils. Until you've seen the pictures we're about to show you, you can't begin to know how evil it actually is.

By making this video short and eliminating the narration, we've structured the presentation to allow you to avoid its contents by simply looking away. But we hope you'll watch, because ignorance sustained by denial is crippling this nation's response to abortion, and when somethings so horrifying we can't stand to look at it, perhaps we shouldn't be tolerating it."

END Introduction to video TRANSCRIPT

Freepers,

I ask everyone to please forward this to everyone you know on both sides of the battle, as it has a major impact on the majority of those who see it. Our country is desperately in need of a major wake up call and I believe this can help if seen by large enough numbers.

This is not an easy video to watch; but after seeing it I quickly realized how necessary it was to watch, because no matter how well I thought I “understood”, seeing it gave a perspective that mere words could “never adequately describe”. To watch, click Abortion Videos then the link to Hard Truth . It is perhaps the most powerful film ever produced on abortion.

The video is produced by Gregg Cunningham with the Center For Bio-Ethical Reform. Additionally go to http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/index.htm , and see the horrible reality of abortion via color photographs.

I also highly recommend reading Abortion: the Silent Holocaust. It was written by Fr. John Powell, S.J. (Click on “abortion: books” then scroll.) I believe it is one of the most important books on the subject ever written. This book has overwhelming importance for readers from high-school age onward, as well as adult study. The author speaks directly to the reader as few writers can. He takes you along his personal journeys from his studies in Germany and tour of the death camp in Dachau, through his work in the pro-life movement.

11 posted on 08/07/2004 7:08:52 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (am I) a part of the cure, or am I part of the disease, singing…You are, you are)
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To: naturalman1975
No abortions are allowed to be shown on TV. Period.

It doesn't matter that all other procedures are. Period.

Ask Matt Drudge. He was fired by FOX News, of all people, for wanting to show not an abortion, but an in womb operation to save a fetus' life.

He wanted to show a picture of the fetus' hand reaching out and grasping the finger of the doctor performing the operation. (Can someone please post that beautiful picture?)

No dice. He was fired. Period. No appeals. Very little discussion except a couple of threads on FR at the time.

So that is the rule: No Fetuses on TV. Period.

(Unless it's a medical documentary about fetal development created by Liberals, of course, in which case, it's not a fetus, but a baby.)

To Matt Drudge: I've always admired you for your courage, at least.

12 posted on 08/07/2004 7:20:49 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (www.protestwarrior.com)
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To: Dec31,1999

IN ORDER TO CHANGE AND REBUILD AN ENTIRE CULTURE, WE MUST FOCUS ON THE CHILDREN AND TEACH THEM.

How many students have heard of Samuel Armas? Telling his story would be another example of how to impress students with the truth that the unborn are just as human as we are. Samuel was operated on at 21-weeks gestation in utero for a spinal cord defect. Pictures of his hand grasping the surgeons are among the most powerful and unforgettable in recent years. He was born on Thursday, Dec. 2, 1999 weighing 5 lbs 11 oz. Samuel's mom, Julie later wrote, “He was born at 36 weeks but came into the world screaming his head off! He did not have to spend any time in a neonatal unit and came home with us on Monday, Dec. 6.”

The Armas story and his pictures should be part of this program in every grade from at least sixth and repeated annually through to twelfth. Students will have a personal story of “Life Before Birth” that simply cannot be denied or forgotten.

Above: Samuel Armas summer of 2003 at 3 1/2 years old.

THE MISSING KEY OF THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT

13 posted on 08/07/2004 7:32:20 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (am I) a part of the cure, or am I part of the disease, singing…You are, you are)
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To: agrarianlady

and i was stunned and traumatized by a photo of the dead and still bloody corpse of a woman who tried to self abort prior to the legalization of abortion. she was on the floor, blood seeping from her body.

i will never forget it and will always believe that a woman is entitled to a safe medical abortion.


14 posted on 08/07/2004 7:39:44 PM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: Dec31,1999; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
BTW--That picture (8 x 11) and the accompanying story is in a matted and gold framed display hanging in the back of my parents Parish Church.

The Pastor was given a poor quality photocopy from a newspaper clipping and asked my dad what he thought about putting it on the bulletin board. My dad asked if I could do better.

I received permission to use the image for educational purposes from the copyright holder, http://www.michaelclancy.com/index.html he's happy to oblige all pro-lifers.

He sent me a hi-rez computer copy which I printed out & then printed the story on heavy stock parchment.

I brought these to a friend who owns a small gallery.
She's a wonderful Pro-Life Christian Lady who fell in love with the story and idea for Church. The best double Mat and beautiful gold frame--at no charge. LOL Her husband said my bill is to "go make another copy for me so I can frame another one for another Church!" That was great.

It's been up for about 3 years, even w a new Pastor.
15 posted on 08/07/2004 7:49:33 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (am I) a part of the cure, or am I part of the disease, singing…You are, you are)
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To: contessa machiaveli

So because you saw the negative side effects of a woman murdering her own child you think all women should be free to have a professional murder their children for them?

"safe medical abortion."

Do you hear yourself? Abortion is not safe-- the result is one dead baby and one wounded Mother. "Abortion kills twice. It kills
the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the
mother." Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters
of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers." Mother Teresa of Calcutta -


16 posted on 08/07/2004 7:59:01 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (am I) a part of the cure, or am I part of the disease, singing…You are, you are)
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To: naturalman1975
And it is only because we do not see that we allow abortions such as the following: In Darwin, a 22-week-old fetus - a girl - was aborted, still alive, and left to die in a steel dish. That took 80 minutes, and nurses later told a coroner they could hear her cry and cry, but no one held or helped her.

My God, this is the single most horrible and barabaric act I have ever read about. The nurses and doctors should be locked up for the rest of their lives, and consider themselves fortunate.

17 posted on 08/07/2004 8:15:55 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: contessa machiaveli

Are you serious? You can't be. There will always be desperate people doing desperate things, but you can't possibly think, as a reasonable person I will assume, that this is not murder. It is just so profoundly simple to see. I will pray that you see the light.


18 posted on 08/07/2004 9:01:24 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: montag813
It's happened in America, as well. Hence the need for the Born Alive Infant's Act -- which sickeningly enough didn't pass unanimously.
19 posted on 08/07/2004 9:02:43 PM PDT by stands2reason (Kerry/Edwards: TERRORISTS FLEE FROM BETTER HAIR!!!)
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To: Dec31,1999

If they can show this in Britian where the press is practically a socialist advertisment, and in Australia where they have deprived people of their self defense rights, you would think there would be a way to get it on the TV here.

Do they have more lax standards as far as violence goes? I mean, are they more likely to show a brutal act on the news than we are?


20 posted on 08/07/2004 9:08:15 PM PDT by I still care (Have you heard about the Democrat cocktail? It's ketchup with a chaser.)
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