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International Monitoring of US Election Called 'Frightening'
CNS News ^ | 8-9-04 | Roch Hammond

Posted on 08/09/2004 12:13:06 PM PDT by truthandlife

The State Department's invitation for an Austrian human rights group to monitor this year's U.S. presidential election is a "frightening" development and "an absolute threat" to America's independence and sovereignty, according to the head of a conservative think tank in Washington, D.C.

Tom DeWeese, president of the American Policy Center, said he's especially angry that the Bush administration would reach out to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), which is based in Vienna, Austria.

"Bush continues to give conservatives the rhetoric of sovereignty, independence and strength of the United States, and he continues to give the [opposite] actions," DeWeese told CNSNews.com. "It's just outrageous this administration would allow this to happen," DeWeese added.

The spokesman for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was equally critical of the State Department's reported invitation. "It's exactly the type of entanglement that results from our continued insistence on being a member of the U.N. and having an interventionist foreign policy," said Jeff Deist, press secretary for Paul, a Republican who once ran for president as a libertarian candidate.

Paul believes that the United Nations and other international organizations are illegitimate and threaten American sovereignty.

"We're all supposed to accept this growing notion of world government ... that's obviously the opposite of sovereignty," Deist said, adding that "a lot of Americans are going to take offense" with the decision.

OSCE is "the largest regional security organization in the world with 55 participating States from Europe, Central Asia and North America," according to the group's website. "It is active in early warning, conflict prevention, crisis management and post-conflict rehabilitation" the website states.

OSCE observers will arrive in the U.S. from its Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights. It will be the first time such a team has been present for a U.S. presidential election, though the OSCE monitored mid-term elections in 2002, and the California gubernatorial election last year.

An official with the State Department said on background that the OSCE mission is "more of an assessment" designed to verify election results. "The OSCE-participating states all agreed, including the U.S., in 1990 to allow each other to observe elections," the official said.

However, the State Department's invitation coincides with lingering Democratic charges that George W. Bush and Florida Republicans stole the 2000 presidential race by preventing many African Americans from casting ballots. Bush's eventual 537 vote winning margin in Florida allowed him to gain the state's 25 electoral votes and the presidency.

Earlier this summer, 13 Democratic members of the U.S. House sent a letter to United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan, requesting that the agency monitor this year's presidential election between Bush and Democrat John Kerry.

The spokesman for Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), who was among those who signed the letter to Annan, said the State Department's invitation to the OSCE "represents a good first step."

Stuart Chapman, press secretary for Lee, said the U.S. should set an example for other countries by allowing an independent group to monitor the balloting.

"We bill ourselves as the greatest democracy, so therefore, we should have applied to our own situation what we send out and promote and claim that we are to the rest of the world," Chapman said. "There clearly was a demonstrated, systematic effort to ensure that the votes of certain people were not counted in the last election," Chapman asserted.


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"The State Department's invitation for an Austrian human rights group to monitor this year's U.S. presidential election is a "frightening" development and "an absolute threat" to America's independence and sovereignty, according to the head of a conservative think tank in Washington, D.C."

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Did I miss something?

Since when did the United States of America require the United Nations to VALIDATE the LEGITIMACY of a United States election - OF ANY kind!!?? - - - ping.

41 posted on 08/09/2004 1:43:55 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: DTA

Since when has cold logic and facts ever stopped an emotionally-based, groundless whine from a liberal?


42 posted on 08/09/2004 1:44:45 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Owl_Eagle

"Frightening" is a sissy word!


43 posted on 08/09/2004 1:51:56 PM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Poohbah

Ok Poohbah- If their presence is so trivial, why are they going to be monitoring/observing (Whatever the hell the politically correct term is today)?
If any of them see something they do not agree with, what will be the outcome?


44 posted on 08/09/2004 2:05:55 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: truthandlife
Then there is the old adage "getting a foot in the door". Look where the homosexual "community" is today. Please just leave us alone they said at first. Take homosexuality off the criminal code, just leave US alone. Now hear them.

Canada has considered Sharia law. Good place for observers- except for in Quebec. LOL

45 posted on 08/09/2004 2:07:51 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: truthandlife

Absolutely right. This gives quasi-legitimacy to other countries, and the UN in their quest to undermine our sovereignty. Really, really bad. It's like asking a convicted felon to look over your shoulder while you're putting your valuables away in the safe. Then you wonder how the heck you got cleaned out two nights later.


46 posted on 08/09/2004 2:14:45 PM PDT by hershey
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To: tkathy

It may cut down on Rat voter fraud. Emphasis on the 'may'. That would be a good thing. The down side is hugh. Not a tempest in a teapot. This will be used as a baseball bat to beat us to death over and over in the world press, at the UN, everywhere someone doesn't like us. And these days, and for the foreseeable future, as long as we're the world's sole superpower, there will be those whose only reason for getting out of bed in the morning is to see the US humiliated or destroyed. Nothing good will come of this. The RATs will dig up the dead to vote. The UN and pals will say that's fine.


47 posted on 08/09/2004 2:20:06 PM PDT by hershey
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To: SealSeven
If any of them see something they do not agree with, what will be the outcome?

Nothing. They have zero <Cartman Mode> AUTHORI-TAAY </Cartman Mode>

48 posted on 08/09/2004 2:29:07 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Poohbah
Ahhh!!!... AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!<^Sam Kinison scream mode> Awe, come on, Poobah- Do you really believe that? Dont you think the Dems would have a field day if they did? And if they are so insignificant, why are they even going to be here? The reason they were "invited" was to make sure the same doesnt happen this election as what was thought to have happened with the previous Presidential election.
49 posted on 08/09/2004 2:41:42 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: SealSeven
Ahhh!!!... AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!<^Sam Kinison scream mode> Awe, come on, Poobah- Do you really believe that?

Yes. Unlike you, I actually read the articles about this. Only Lazamataz gets a pass on posting without reading the article.

Dont you think the Dems would have a field day if they did?

No worse than they did in 2000.

And if they are so insignificant, why are they even going to be here?

It's called "strategery." It defuses the call for "international observers" and ensures that all such observers actually come from reasonably civilized countries.

The reason they were "invited" was to make sure the same doesnt happen this election as what was thought to have happened with the previous Presidential election.

Then you really don't understand what's going on, or why. Please do one of two things: (a) get a clue, or (b) go back to your Y2K bunker and confine yourself to eating MREs.

50 posted on 08/09/2004 2:46:35 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: truthandlife

International monitoring of European elections will be next, and the observers will be from the US. ;')


51 posted on 08/09/2004 2:57:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Happy2BMe
State Department? Is Colin Powell back to his old tricks like appeasing Arafat? Or is this the idea of some other idiot over at State?

This is the kinda stuff we read in Weekly World News
52 posted on 08/09/2004 3:02:10 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Poohbah

Well excuse the F**k outta me, your hein-ass -
With all due respect (which you obviously have for no one but yourself), take your condescending attitude and stick it. I attempt a civil conversation and you end it with your BS. At one time I had respect for your opinion- No more.
I stand by my interpretation of the article and will do so without a Poohbah-type holier than thou attitude.


53 posted on 08/09/2004 3:02:53 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: truthandlife

I mean they already have California, isn't that enough?


54 posted on 08/09/2004 3:31:40 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: truthandlife
Your post #34 on the goals of the Communist Party noted. If persons would at least carefully peruse #16 through #34 , they might consider.

Many of these goals have now been actually reached? Today, many many people might regretfully find some, or all, to be only too true. If it was drastically tried in the 1950's, it would have brought immediate action against the perpetrators. How did much of it (#16 thru #34) come to what it is today?

I say it was because the Communists got a "foot in the door", because of "their rights". Still, that may be debatable I will agree.

55 posted on 08/09/2004 3:38:25 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: truthandlife
Tom DeWeese and Ron Paul are right.

at this point I think the Bush apologists would dismiss, justify and excuse anything, and I mean ANYTHING the GOP does. It's pretty pathetic. we don't keep the GOP conservative by bowing down and conceding on every point, simply because "the dems are worse!" We all know the dems are worse. That doesn't mean you bow down to every leftist abomination that comes down the pike from the 'almighty GOP'.

Many people seem to embrace the motto 'PARTY BEFORE PRINCIPLE®'. No thanks!

56 posted on 08/09/2004 3:48:33 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: Buffettbassman

Powell doesn't do things without approval from Bush.


57 posted on 08/09/2004 3:55:08 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
They did it to concede to the leftists because in reality, Bush is an internationalist/globalist just like his pappy- look up UNESCO, LOST, FTAA and various other degenerate, anti-American programs that Jorge Bush embraces. His rhetoric may seem okay at times, (and many times even the rhetoric matches that of the dems). but in reality both corrupt parties are leading the republic to the same goal.

A great number of people on this forum who are informed on the sovereignty issue and border invasion inevitably come to this exact same conclusion. People are not as gullible and naive as the paid pundits and political operatives (hacks) think.

Our founders repeatedly warned us of corruption within govt and taught us that 'patriotism' is NOT blind allegiance to a politcal party or candidate. I will post some of these quotes, if anyone is interested.

58 posted on 08/09/2004 4:03:50 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: Digger

amen to that!


59 posted on 08/09/2004 4:04:52 PM PDT by MindFire
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To: truthandlife
This is totally unacceptable.

The oil-for-food-to-line-pockets alliances are in immediate overdrive hearing they may get a crack at corrupting a USA presidential election, or at the very least have a US Government backed presence in one giving them global credence .

If this flies, it will open the door to the world courts and bye-bye sovereignty.
60 posted on 08/09/2004 4:16:24 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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