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After Crossfire and Hardball Tonight, is There Any Question Remaining? The Media is the Real Enemy.
The Media is the Real Enemy ^ | 8-12-04 | Bob J

Posted on 08/12/2004 9:40:42 PM PDT by Bob J

On the 5th I posted an article title The Media is the Real Enemy - Watch Media Reaction to the Swift Boat Vets Story and be Convinced!. After observing what has happened since and in particular the performance typified by Crossfire and Hardball tonight, is there any question remaining that our primary activism objective needs to be defeating the media hegemony that nourishes the beast?

I've been involved in FReeper activism beginning way back with the March for Justice in '98. I now believe my energies have been nothing but shadow boxing. Every single action that we have undertaken against groups or individuals can trace their existence to an adoring dim media that creates them, props them up and then protects them from damage through propaganda, misdirection and lies.

I think it's time we redirect our efforts to the source that creates, sustains and drives liberalism.

Comments and suggestions?


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters
KEYWORDS: enemy; enemywithin; kerry; media; swiftboat; swiftboatvets
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To: Torie; Bob J
See?! If abject skeptic Torie is pleased with the way this is playing out, Kerry is genuinely, royally screwed...

O'Neill is centered, unflappable. He's cauterizing Kerry's umbilical cord to Vietnam, revealing the Demo lunacy of dumping Dean for a lying cretin; and it's been fun to watch every step of way.

41 posted on 08/12/2004 10:01:42 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Texasforever

Here is the Email that I sent Chris Mathews C/O HardBall:
Dear Chris Mathews,

I am stunned at your treatment of Mr. O'Neill on your show tonight. I have always respected you and your show, and I am completely shocked and dismayed after watching your show tonight.

I am a Navy Vietnam combat Veteran. I served on the Mekong Delta 1970 - 1971. I know a little bit about what went on over there, back then.

Apparently you did not take the time to examine any of the documents that support Mr. O'Neill's position prior to your interview with him. You have done the Veterans of this country a grave disservice by not treating Mr. O'Neill's position regarding Kerry with at least a modicum of respect. You owe Mr. O'Neill a return invitation to your show, and you owe your audience the professionalism of at least being aware of the subject matter.

Remember, it was KERRY that made his Vietnam service the cornerstone of his presidential candidacy, and it was Kerry that invited us to examine his record. Then when presented with an examination of his record (which you apparently did not even take the time to review), you threw it away like so much trash without even giving it a fair hearing.

Mr. Mathews, this is an important issue to Vietnam Veterans. The facts that the Swift Boat Vets for the Truth have about Kerry's Vietnam service, and his Jane Fonda / John Kerry actions following his return needs to be told in an honest debate. The American people deserve to know the truth. After all, Kerry is the one that asked for an examination of his record to occur. The slam -job that you did to Mr. O'Neill was disgraceful, and I am hurt by your actions.

I hope that you take my comments with the honest respect that they are given.

Sincerely,

Real name here


42 posted on 08/12/2004 10:01:47 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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To: GeronL
"Aren't there any rich Republicans who can start a newspaper or a TV news channel??"

Why spend that kind of money when we can bring them to their knees for much less?

43 posted on 08/12/2004 10:02:28 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: jocon307
I THINK the new media is hurting the old media, but the liberals, the leftists, they are in the fight of their lives this go 'round. Their whole world is crumbling.

This is true. They are becoming irrelevant to all groups.

44 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:08 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Bob J; Everybody

I think it's time we redirect our efforts to the source that creates, sustains and drives liberalism.

Comments and suggestions?
1 -Bob J-

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The source that creates, sustains, and drives socialism?

Yes Bob, - how can we rid ourselves of the 'two party' system, if we unconditionally support one half of it?


45 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:49 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: dbwz
"Got kids? Encourage them to major in journalism or education when they get to college. "

How about we force newspapers and television networks (not to mention Universities) to hire conservatives NOW?

46 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:50 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J

No question, none at all.


47 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:55 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Texasforever
Or why Kerry is not suing them.

But that would involve discovery, Kerry can't afford that.

He's done, they're done, and Bush will win in a landslide. As much as the leftist media claim we're a nation "divided" they've disclosed the truth: we're united, just not behind them.

Carville was the icing on the cake. I wish I had a copy of his meltdown from the "Rambo Eruption" of the Swiftees.

All that Vietnam "baby killer" mythology is being exposed to the harsh sunlight of truth. Not a moment too soon, but I imagine the vets have been waiting a long time for the Manchurian Candidate to reach for the brass ring. And they put this one in the bullseye.

Stick a fork in the left, guys like Carville will be selling used cars inside of a year.

48 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:56 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Live Strong)
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To: Bob J
I said what I said, which was that Matthews self immolated. You should have more faith in the American voter to discern BS when it is presented to them. Somehow we elected Reagan and Bush Sr. and some others, when Dan Rather et al had a near monopoly. And we will do just fine as voters in general now, in fact even better, because the way the Internet works, and the multiple media sources work, it is rather more difficult to not get called on lies, bias, etc. I'm think things are grand in the media department. The First Amendment is more secure than ever. America just keeps getting better and better.

That's my leitmotif. I admit it. Cheers.

49 posted on 08/12/2004 10:03:57 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Texasforever; Bob J; Howlin; All

"Bob if FR is going to do anything it first has to stop debating about whether Bush is conservative enough and start a massive response to every media outlet that is actively campaigning for Kerry. We need to flood WP, NYT,CBS,NBC,CNN and now Fox with the other side. We also have to make sure that all of us get off FR long enough to VOTE and take someone with us to VOTE."

Excellent post!

Jim Robinson and I discussed many of these points yesterday.

68 - 69TonkinGulfYachtClub meets fellow Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Vet Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1190423/posts


50 posted on 08/12/2004 10:04:21 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Just say NO to TV and Cable "News" , "Polls" and "Election Results")
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

Great letter.


51 posted on 08/12/2004 10:04:23 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: nutmeg

bttt


52 posted on 08/12/2004 10:04:36 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: jocon307
"I THINK the new media is hurting the old media, but the liberals, the leftists, they are in the fight of their lives this go 'round."

Then let's administer the death blow and put them out of their misery .

53 posted on 08/12/2004 10:05:48 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J

I agree with you comments on the media. It is obvious that so many of the so-called journalist have no intention of abiding by the SPJ Code of Ethics. Not sure some of them have ever taken an Ethics Course and if they did, they forgot it. I keep sending the Code of Ethics to various reporters and tell them to see if they can figure out what it says since they obvious are not abiding by the Code.

Count me in on any activism. Almost done with my daughter's sorority recruitment (ends the 17th) and our Republican Women's Club BBQ on the 21st and then I am free to totally get involved in any project.


54 posted on 08/12/2004 10:06:06 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: mlstier

Arianna? How appropriate.


55 posted on 08/12/2004 10:06:11 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

Have you ever heard of ANYONE in that time gaining the amount of medal hardware in 4 months other than Kerry?


56 posted on 08/12/2004 10:06:18 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

"Very exciting to be a part of this revolution!"

yes, it is! well put!


57 posted on 08/12/2004 10:06:21 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: John Lenin
"The reason they keep getting away with it is because we are not knocking on their doors demanding a unbiased free press and the fact that cable TV is pure communism, ratings don't matter that much anymore to the bottom line."

Ratings always matter. It pays the bills and puts the kids through that lousy liberal college...hey...wait there a sec...

58 posted on 08/12/2004 10:07:02 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J
How about we force newspapers and television networks (not to mention Universities) to hire conservatives NOW

That sounds a bit brown-shirt. Just let the market work its will. Talk radio is now almost a conservative monopoly. It is quite "unfair" to liberals. The market is a harsh and demanding mistress.

59 posted on 08/12/2004 10:07:38 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Republic
"Bob-no kidding-we need to wage a war of our own because truly, a press that operates under heavy bias, can divide and destroy this precious nation.",

And repeatedly come out on top.

60 posted on 08/12/2004 10:08:05 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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