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'YOU DIDN'T ONLY LIE TO ME, SCOTT, YOU LIED TO A NATION'
The NY POST ^ | Aug 17,2004 | Howard Breuer

Posted on 08/17/2004 5:31:58 AM PDT by runningbear

August 17, 2004 -- REDWOOD CITY, Calif. — Stunning new phone tapes from Scott Peterson's slay trial yesterday depicted his miffed mistress demanding to know if he slept with wife Laci the night before she vanished — and Peterson insisting he told Laci about their affair after their first date.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: avoidingchildsupport; conner; deathpenaltytime; dontubelievemyalibi; getarope; ibefishing; laci; lacipeterson; sonkiller; wifekiller
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To: SheLion

Hi She!!
The first time the offender called and I told him he was being recorded was the LAST time he called.
Worked like a dream!


101 posted on 08/17/2004 10:01:35 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
The first time the offender called and I told him he was being recorded was the LAST time he called. Worked like a dream!

Hehe!!!

102 posted on 08/17/2004 10:02:38 AM PDT by SheLion (The terrorist are here.......living among us. It's too late to close the borders.)
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To: Devil_Anse

Yes, oh guru of all things legal, I note you have zip on your profile.

I am just a casual observer of these proceedings, but in the reports I have read, I have seen NO hard evidence the police had prior to the questioning on the phone by Frey. Maybe you are aware of such evidence, and would be willing to share it with us? It is my understanding that the prosecution has absolutely NO concrete evidence linking Peterson to this crime, other than a hair found on his fishing boat, which could have stuck to his clothes when he left the house. Everything else is related to motive, and subject to interpretation. Even the concrete anchor question was not satisfactorily explained by either side.

Further, I HAVE been questioned by LE about a crime, but I was NOT in custody. They had to Mirandize me nonetheless, as I was a suspect by dint of mere association with the victim.

By-the-by, where did your get your law degree? I got all my knowledge of this from my Connecticut State Policeman father. But I guess you know more than him...

And further, where do you get the idea that I am a middle-aged 'bully'? At 33 years of age, I am hardly middle-aged, and I fail to see in my previous posts where I 'bullied' you, unless you consider disagreement with you as bullying?


103 posted on 08/17/2004 10:04:43 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Devil_Anse; runningbear; Canadian Outrage; Jackie-O; All
on Jan. 8, 2003, less than two weeks after she was reported missing, Peterson ordered the Playboy Channel and four days later he ordered channels that played even more hard-core adult entertainment................................................................ "On the 12th he canceled the Playboy channels and orders two hard-core pornography channels. We're not talking about HBO at night here," Distaso said.
Scott ordered TV Porn

LOL! Now we know what Scott was doing after he told Amber he was at the mailbox on 1/8 and then she never hears from him again until 1/12 and her first comment is "Hey, that's a late afternoon.

Dev, I agree with you that Scott seems to have a strange interest in Aiyanna. Very interested that she will be out of diapers soon.

104 posted on 08/17/2004 10:05:21 AM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Devil_Anse
I saw that mentioned on Nancy yesterday afternoon, but didn't catch any details. Did anyone elaborate on what Sharon said to that fool?? I hope she ripped him a new a$$hole.
About the zanax...I think Snotty must preferred that Sharon be a little numbed out...maybe she would not have been calling and drilling him about the last time he was with Laci. It was all he could do to avoid Sharon's and Brent's questioning....
105 posted on 08/17/2004 10:07:55 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: juzcuz

Excellent points, juzcuz. This is something I wish all these young, insecure women like Amber would think about before bringing a strange man into their homes. And leaving their children alone with these men!! What WAS she thinking?


106 posted on 08/17/2004 10:07:56 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Devil_Anse

Well, one thing we do know: we don't know how Laci was killed, just that she was. It could have been poison, among other ways. Certainly, a poisoning death would not leave bloodstains and other evidence in the house--as was the situation in this case.


107 posted on 08/17/2004 10:11:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Spunky
Very interested that she will be out of diapers soon.

There was a taped discussion where he was interested in how expensive they were....

I hate to hit and run here...but lunch is over and I have to jam on this work around here!!!

School's in session in one week!!

BBL...bookmark.

108 posted on 08/17/2004 10:12:03 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Devil_Anse
He says, "I was at that house the other day, the house Laci disappeared from."

Hellluuuu, Scott? You were also at that house the very day Laci disappeared.

109 posted on 08/17/2004 10:29:12 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: MEG33

The Talented Mr. Peterson


110 posted on 08/17/2004 10:36:51 AM PDT by H.Akston (It's all about property rights.)
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To: churchillbuff

Yep... there is not a shortage of 25 to 35 average looking, single women with kids.


111 posted on 08/17/2004 10:43:06 AM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: Publius6961

No, you're not the only one. There's at least me too.


112 posted on 08/17/2004 10:49:07 AM PDT by H.Akston (It's all about property rights.)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
Loyola. And my father-in-law was also a policeman, in New Orleans. And yes, I remember the scandals with the N.O.P.D. He was dead by the time those happened, but yes, there were other funny goings on, back when he was a cop. He saw a lot. I also got to know homicide and other investigators in two district attorneys' offices, while working with them as a prosecutor.

It is my understanding that the prosecution has absolutely NO concrete evidence linking Peterson to this crime.

Interesting choice of words. "Concrete".

You want me to give you a rundown of all the "hard evidence" that's accrued to date? First, let me know the legal meaning of that terminology: "hard" evidence. I don't recall having run across that phrase in law books. The word "evidence", yes, but the phrase "hard evidence", um, not really.

The "hair" turned out to be two hairs, and it was not, as I previously thought, that one hair split into two pieces. Testimony showed that it was two distinct hairs. On one of them was found a small, cut blade of a very common CA grass. Coincidentally, this same grass very likely was found on the Petersons' lawn, and the grass had been cut just about 2 days before Laci disappeared, before Laci was somehow magically transported from her house (where her car was still safely parked in the driveway), to San Francisco Bay.

They had to Mirandize me nonetheless, as I was a suspect by dint of mere association with the victim.

Are you sure they "had" to Mirandize you--or could it be that they did it out of caution? Or did they tell you they "had" to? They could have been lying, you know. As I tried to point out to you, cops can tell a person any number of lies while interrogating him, and the interrogation will not fail to be admitted due to the lies.

Everything else is related to motive, and subject to interpretation.

I'll go you one better, and say that the presence of the hair in the pliers is also subject to interpretation. That's what circumstantial evidence is: evidence which must be interpreted. It is not evidence which tells the jury directly what happened, as an eyewitness would recount an event. But I hope you are aware that in the majority of such crimes, there is no eyewitness. I don't know why, but people who commit serious crimes have this tendency to not do them where people can see what they're doing.

I shouldn't do this... I should insist that you read up on the evidence yourself before pontificating, and not take so much time doing it for you. But--and I have no illusions that this will make you say you are convinced--try just some of the known facts on for size:

Laci was last seen (other than by Scott) wearing tan maternity pants and a patterned top. Scott helped the FBI put together a poster with what he said he last saw her in: black pants and a white top. When the remains were found, they were wearing tan pants and no top.

The remains were, however, clad in bra, panties, and the remnants of the tan pants. But no top.

So where was the top? Well, a police picture taken about Dec. 27 shows it hanging out of Scott's hamper, at the house. When the police returned on Feb. 18, the top was found balled up in the back of a drawer.

Scott left his home on Dec. 24 at just about 10:06 a.m. We know this because the cellphone towers (as usual, he was on the phone) show that he was proceeding between his home and his warehouse a minute and a half after 10:06, going in the direction of the warehouse.

Scott said Laci was alive and well, and going to walk their dog, when he left. He said she was then wearing black pants and a white top.

At 10:18, the next-door neighbor found the dog wandering in the street, in front of the house, with his leash on. She took the dog up to the back gate--which was standing open--and put him in the Petersons' backyard and closed the gate.

Scott told everyone that apparently Laci was abducted in the park while walking the dog.

Okay, well, if it happened that way, then it MUST have happened between 10:08 and 10:18 a.m. Laci was accounted for before that time, and the dog was accounted for after that time. Twelve minutes for her to change her outfit(and remove her shirt, since she must've gone out without a shirt), put on shoes (Scott told one person she was barefoot when he last saw her, and they seem to have had a custom of removing their shoes while in the house), get the dog's leash on, then bound down the street like a beach ball, pulled by a Golden Retriever, past the neighbors many of whom were home for Christmas Eve Day, and get abducted, w/o anyone ever seeing or hearing a single thing.

Much testimony was adduced that proved that during that period, Laci had had dizzy spells while walking out, had been advised not to walk at all or not till late afternoon, and had finally accepted this medical advice.

Laci and Scott had gone to a Disney park in about Sept., and she had been at the point where Scott had to put her in a wheelchair and wheel her around. Laci's "maternity yoga" teacher said that days b/f Laci disappeared, Laci had had to be helped to her car.

Scott told Amber's friend on Dec. 6 that he had "lost" his wife, b/c the friend confonted him about dating Amber while being married. Scott then told Amber the same thing on Dec. 9--that he had "lost" his wife. But Laci was alive at the time.

Scott was laughing and joking at the vigil in Modesto for Laci, a missing person, one week after the disappearance, on New Year's Eve. He also called Amber then and told elaborate stories about how he was near the Eiffel Tower in Paris and the celebrations were really exciting and beautiful. You can listen to his voice if you want. He sounds very happy and carefree.

No one really knows what Scott was doing the night of Dec. 23. The only person who could give him an alibi is, sadly, dead.

Lest you think she was abducted from inside the house, let me tell you that $10,000 worth of diamond jewelry (she was one of the named heirs to approximately $2.1 million) was left sitting on the dresser in plain sight, cash was left in her purse, and Scott's fairly extensive gun collection was still right where he had left it.

Oh, and then there's Scott's escapade when they finally arrested him down in San Diego. He had $10,000 of camping equipment and $15,000 cash in the car with him. He had bought the car in his mother's name, telling the salesman with a straight face that his name was Jacqueline Peterson. The bodies had washed ashore days b/f Scott's arrest. He was in San Diego, or Ocean Beach, CA, when the word came out that they'd washed ashore in northern CA. Did he rush up to where they'd been found? Nope. His only reaction appears to have been to get his sh** together quickly so he could get the hell out of Dodge. With his family's help. (Why didn't they say, "Scott, you have nothing to hide! Don't run away! How dare they accuse you of this! We'll sue their sorry behinds!")

Ha ha, sorry, the 30's qualifies as middle-aged. Been there, done that.

I'm a bit disappointed, truth be told. I have to admit that I have a bit of a soft spot for the hypothetical "old" (they seemed so at the time) guy who is sitting in front of the TV with a beer, in his undershirt and an old pair of pants, telling off the damned politicians, and haranguing anyone who doesn't agree. I remember when my Uncle Bob couldn't resist yelling out the window to a longhaired teenager, "Get a haircut!!!" Those irascible old guys, seriously, you gotta love 'em.

113 posted on 08/17/2004 11:06:00 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: MizSterious; Devil_Anse

OR that he installed a secret video camera in her house.


114 posted on 08/17/2004 11:17:12 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Devil_Anse

Hmm, consider me duly chastened...

That top found in the drawer I hadn't heard of, but it makes me ask the question, did the police have it before or after the Frey tapes? Or better, could you please direct me to where I might find such info?


115 posted on 08/17/2004 11:17:25 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: SheLion

These tapes will NOT be thrown out. The Police obtained a legal warrant approved by a Judge to do the wiretapping. They obviously provided enough "probable cause" for the Judge to sign the warrant(s)!!


116 posted on 08/17/2004 11:24:33 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (IAll us Western Canuks belong South!!!)
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To: drjulie

Your post #61 is absolutely right!! Remember How he BEGGED Shawn Sibley to set him up with a girl "FOR A SERIOUS, LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP"??? This is what Peterson was looking for and frankly, it looks to me like Amber swept him off his feet. Whether he would have stayed with her is another matter. I doubt a man like that could ever be faithful forever to ANY woman.


117 posted on 08/17/2004 11:41:09 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (IAll us Western Canuks belong South!!!)
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To: runningbear

Seems like fetilizer salesman sums it all up for Scott Peterson.


118 posted on 08/17/2004 11:51:30 AM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Arthalion

I'm glad you had that opportunity to actually "observe" Peterson. If we, who watched his televised non-reactions, got the chills and realized that this man was COMPLETELY disconnected and NOT grieving at all, I'm sure that Laci's family was literally shell shocked!! December 24, 2003 just after 5pm, Sharon Rocha and her family had their lives changed FOREVER!!


119 posted on 08/17/2004 11:51:46 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (IAll us Western Canuks belong South!!!)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Check your freepmail for a link to the prelim transcripts.

BTW, they've just come out with another tape. Scott takes an inordinate interest in Amber's 1 1/2 year old daughter. If he isn't a murderer--or for that matter, if he is--I think he might at least be something else unsavory, and I'm becoming more and more convinced.


120 posted on 08/17/2004 11:56:31 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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