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But What About My Job, Mr. Warmonger, Sir?… [Germans meant withdraw from IRAQ, not GERMANY]]
Medienkritick ^ | August 18, 2004

Posted on 08/19/2004 6:53:06 AM PDT by John Jorsett

The staff of ver.di, Germany’s largest service-sector union and the largest independent, individual trade union in the world, is worried. Its leaders now realize that there won’t be enough warmongers around to adequately support members’ Socialist way-of-life. They rightfully “fear” that the planned withdrawal of tens of thousands of US military personnel and their dependents from Germany will result in thousands of lost union jobs, particularly in areas surrounding affected bases and installations.

“But…warmongers?” You ask. Well sure, that is exactly how ver.di’s chairman, union kingpin Frank Bsirske, described the American government and military just last year. And that wasn’t all Mr. Bsirske had to say on behalf of the union and its members about the United States. Here are some quotes from recent public speeches he made:

“What it (the US government) puts in place of the UN order is an order which follows its imperial gusto and understanding of its own interests.”

“That connects itself to a concept of hegemony, that, with Iraq in mind, is also clearly motivated by the favoring of an economic development that dramatically increases energy use and raises demand for oil in a sustained way. Access to the oil sources is to be politically and militarily secured.

That aims towards a war with a government, and this will likely not be the last, that one once supported, financed and armed.”

“On Day X as many people as possible should take to the streets and show that they are against the war in Iraq. We call upon all members to take part in the actions.

“Let us set our protest against the warmongers, the protest of millions of people in the entire world, our dedication and our strength, the strength of the international peace movement!” (emphasis ours)

Given Mr. Bsirske’s strident opposition to the Iraq war, the Bush administration and the US military, one would have thought that he and his union would have been overjoyed at the prospect of thousands of “imperial hegemons” withdrawing from Germany. In fact, the opposite is true.

This apparent contradiction highlights the fact that there is indeed something more important to Germany’s leftist dominated unions than exploiting anti-American sentiment for political gain. That something is ensuring that union members be able to suck at the teat of the Socialist welfare state into the indefinite future. And if that means accepting money and jobs from members of the US military, people the unions have repeatedly derided and demonized as warmongers from a heartless capitalist society, well, then Frank Bsirske and ver.di are entirely prepared to do just that.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; eurotwits; militarybases
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1 posted on 08/19/2004 6:53:07 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

wah!wah!wah! shoulda thunk of that when you was opposing our right to defend ourselves.


2 posted on 08/19/2004 6:56:44 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: John Jorsett

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.


3 posted on 08/19/2004 6:57:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: John Jorsett

Great post and well said! It's about time! We should also begin the reduction of foreign aide to countries that do no support our "imperial" interests such as democracy and freedom.


4 posted on 08/19/2004 6:58:11 AM PDT by Shortwave (It's a grown up thing. Libs wouldn't understand.)
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To: John Jorsett

Looks like Kerry gets another Union endorsement.


5 posted on 08/19/2004 6:58:57 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: John Jorsett

Let's face it, the peoples of Old Europe need to be taught a lesson.

For decades they have been trying to build a United States of Europe on the backs of Americans. They subsidize their industries such as Airbus, which we don't do here. They can do this because they provide nothing for their own defense. All this while bad mouthing us, and trying to undermine our power in the world.

We can't pull out fast enough for me.


6 posted on 08/19/2004 7:00:17 AM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Reagan preferred to shoot the bear... the verdict of history will be simple: nice aim.)
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To: John Jorsett

Too bad

So sad

I'm glad!


7 posted on 08/19/2004 7:01:15 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: John Jorsett

It's called karma, or what goes around comes around.


8 posted on 08/19/2004 7:02:20 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: John Jorsett

(this is from another FReeper)

Hey Krauts, call the Krankenwaaaaaaaaaaaagon.


9 posted on 08/19/2004 7:03:03 AM PDT by blanknoone (Republicans need to acknowldege that campaign finance reform failed and start setting up 527s.)
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To: John Jorsett

Maybe next time they will think before criticising us about not having an "exit strategy".

We now have an "exit strategy" for Germany- almost 60 years after the war ended.


10 posted on 08/19/2004 7:03:21 AM PDT by brothers4thID (We are going to take from you to provide for the common good)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
"It's called karma, or what goes around comes around." Eggsactly Batman, as a good friend of mine often sez, "Karma is a bitch!"
11 posted on 08/19/2004 7:05:37 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Why will the pull-out take ten years?

Our Soldiers and their families can surely find enough flights out of Germany within 6 months. Ten years for everything else, fine.

Now that the decision is made HEAD 'EM UP! - MOVE EM' OUT!!


12 posted on 08/19/2004 7:05:43 AM PDT by hushpad
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To: John Jorsett
Herr Fritz --

Auf Wiedersein.

Uncle Sam

13 posted on 08/19/2004 7:08:52 AM PDT by chs68
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To: Shortwave
I support the "Limbaugh International Excrement List". If any foreign country badmouths us, they get on the Excrement List, which means not a friggin' dime of aid.

They can get off of the Excrement List with a sustained period of groveling and apologies.

14 posted on 08/19/2004 7:08:58 AM PDT by THX 1138
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To: John Jorsett

That's what I've been saying since this was brought up months ago. Careful what you wish for, heehee.


15 posted on 08/19/2004 7:11:16 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: John Jorsett

schadenfreude \SHAHD-n-froy-duh\, noun:

A malicious satisfaction in the misfortunes of others. The historian Peter Gay -- who felt Schadenfreude as a Jewish child in Nazi-era Berlin, watching the Germans lose coveted gold medals in the 1936 Olympics -- has said that it "can be one of the great joys of life." --Edward Rothstein, "Missing the Fun of a Minor Sin." New York Times, February 5, 2000
16 posted on 08/19/2004 7:12:14 AM PDT by Dutchgirl (Gen. Tommy Franks,"We owe it to Osama to kill him.")
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To: mtbopfuyn


Some in Germany are not crying. I was reading a post from a German yesterday in which it was stated it would not affect the local economy because the soldiers and families shopped on base and kept to themselves. It also was noted some of the bases occupy prime real estate and would be developed. I don't know if this is true, but I am throwing it out there.


17 posted on 08/19/2004 7:24:23 AM PDT by MRobert
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To: John Jorsett

My only problem is that we aren't pulling every single American troop out of Germany. Hey, do we have any bases in France? If so...they must come out!


18 posted on 08/19/2004 7:26:46 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: John Jorsett

My only problem is that we aren't pulling every single American troop out of Germany. Hey, do we have any bases in France? If so...they must come out!


19 posted on 08/19/2004 7:27:33 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: MRobert

It may be true to the poster, but the soldiers bring a lot of money into the German economy, there is no disputing that.

On top of that there are many German civilians employed by the bases who will be out of work.


20 posted on 08/19/2004 7:28:37 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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