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O'Neill on PBS NewsHour tonight (Thursday 8/19/04)
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Posted on 08/19/2004 2:40:59 PM PDT by gilliam

From the daily NewsHour e-mail:

Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) today vigorously defended his Vietnam war record against allegations a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth made accusing Kerry of engineering the injuries which led to the medals he won for his wartime service. Jim Lehrer gets perspectives on the controversy over Kerry’s war record from John O’Neill, co-founder of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, and Tom Oliphant, a Boston Globe columnist who covered Kerry during his postwar protests in Washington.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnoneill; kerry; pbs; swiftboatveterans
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From a poster at the Swiftvets BBS:

If you miss it on TV, it should be available later tonight (Thursday night) at http://www.pbs.org/newshour/video/index.html or simply http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ .

Their reports are almost always available in both video and transcript form at no charge.

Also, O'Neill's interlocutor tonight, Tom Oliphant, is a honorable man, though I suspect it'll seem to many of us that he's from a different planet tonight.

It's amazing and fascinating to me how choosing to trust Kerry or choosing to trust the Swift Vets (the choice the evidence prima facie requires, in my view) leads to a sort of domino effect that can lead people very sincerely to embrace such wholly contrary opinions of the whole political situation. Oliphant likely sees the dominos falling in the other direction, but he's an honest gentleman (I believe).

This should be an excellent discussion.

1 posted on 08/19/2004 2:40:59 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

Swiftvet BBS thread on this is here:
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3319


2 posted on 08/19/2004 2:42:58 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

Kerry's crew made a big mistake by bringing up the citation. It is almost as if the Swifties expected it. The response was perfect. O'Neill will quickly take the focus off the content of the citation and onto the authorship. Shines a little more light on Kerry's self serving nature.


3 posted on 08/19/2004 2:47:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gilliam

Oliphant is a Major League Kerry Rump Swab.

Look for him to try to talk over O'Neill or keep interrupting with irelevant crap, like the rich Texan.


4 posted on 08/19/2004 2:49:32 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: gov_bean_ counter

the content is what is damning to the author (meaning it's Kerry's LIEs they've been criticizing all this time)


5 posted on 08/19/2004 2:49:47 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Jeez, Does O'Neill Sleep? The man is Amazing.


6 posted on 08/19/2004 2:50:41 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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To: gilliam
Oliphant not like to be a raving madman such as Begala, or Lanny Davis for that matter.

Hopefully, he will have read the book.

7 posted on 08/19/2004 2:51:59 PM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

You are right. I should have said took the focus off the content relative to the Swift Vet by adding context (received it after leaving the military, only Kerry wrote up the incident, etc)


8 posted on 08/19/2004 2:52:57 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: cmsgop

I just can't wait until 60 Minutes gives him a whole hour to tout his book like they did Richard Clarke and Paul O'neil.

Oh, nevermind.


9 posted on 08/19/2004 2:55:06 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: Steven W.

what kind of guy writes up a report calling himself a hero?

i've always thought heroism involves a degree of modesty.


10 posted on 08/19/2004 2:58:25 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: jackbill

Oliphant wrote a major hit piece on Kerry's convention speech. According to reports here it was because his daughter wrote most of the good parts of it and Kerry ruined them all with his delivery. Oliphant apparently doesn't like Kerry on a personal level. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.


11 posted on 08/19/2004 3:02:54 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: socal_parrot

Just heard ABC radio play the O'Neill's unedited response to the citation issue. Will pick up jaw off the floor after I post this.


12 posted on 08/19/2004 3:06:47 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFans: John O'Neill will be on Hannity & Colmes tonight for half an hour (the Kerry representative backed out). Thank you RottiBiz for that info.

FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

13 posted on 08/19/2004 3:08:52 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Just heard ABC radio play the O'Neill's unedited response to the citation issue. Will pick up jaw off the floor after I post this.

No JOKE!! That is a big time jaw-dropper there.


14 posted on 08/19/2004 3:15:19 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Let he who has ears to hear, hear. Support the heroes of the SwiftBoat Vets.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Brit covering one of the Lehman-signed citations right now with guest Lt Col Cowan.


15 posted on 08/19/2004 3:24:07 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: gilliam
The tide has turned with this battle. Listening to JFK denials on the radio, all I could think was that he's just giving the whole subject ever more attention. He is in a no-win situation - ignore it, and it grows; deny it, and it gets more airtime.

Strategery, indeed!
16 posted on 08/19/2004 3:31:37 PM PDT by frankenMonkey
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To: gilliam

Oliphant is having a hard time listening to O'Neill.


17 posted on 08/19/2004 3:32:03 PM PDT by syriacus (Benedict Arnold REALLY was a war hero --- --- before he was a traitor.)
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To: syriacus
Oliphant's repeated claims that the SBVs claims don't meet the high journalistic standards of the mainstream media are about the most pathetic defense I've heard so far.

You mean those "high standards" that swallowed Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia story for 35 years never once even trying to check them out? Do you mean those standards Mr. Oliphant?

18 posted on 08/19/2004 3:38:15 PM PDT by G-Bob
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To: syriacus

O'Neill ate that fruit's lunch for him. What's with the hair, bowtie and the femme voice? He couldn't even sit still!


19 posted on 08/19/2004 3:38:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMajority
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To: G-Bob

Don't forget the NYT's publishing of Washington rumors on the front page.


20 posted on 08/19/2004 3:38:57 PM PDT by gilliam
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