Skip to comments."bombastic ass" is not the antidote to "boorish ass" (why Olbermann Cannot Do Cleanup for Matthews)
Posted on 08/20/2004 5:47:06 AM PDT by Mia T
perating under the false assumption, (a curious, 20th-century cable conceit), that "bombastic ass" is the antidote to "boorish ass," MSNBC schedulers have Keith Olbermann doing cleanup for Chris Matthews.
Last night, Michelle Malkin easily dispensed with that silly notion. (See below.)
SOME POINTS TO PONDER, SWIFTLY
AMBUSH JOURNALISM...OR MY EVENING WITH CAVEMAN CHRIS MATTHEWS
Here's a peek behind the cable TV curtain. It's not pretty.
So, my publicist arranges for me to go on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews on Thursday night to talk about my recent columns on the FBI and national security profiling and my new book. Despite the show's basement ratings, we figure it's a good opportunity to reach out to a new audience. FOX News, with whom I have a contract, has generously allowed me to appear on some competing networks to talk about the book. Thursday was the second to the last day that I could make such appearances.
A few hours before the show, a producer calls to tell me I will be on for two segments--the first topic will be the Swift Boat Veterans, the second topic will be related to the book. Fine. This is the news business. I understand the need to go with the flow and cover the hot issues of the day. I am prepared to discuss both topics.
In a pre-interview, the producer goes over general questions about Kerry's response to the Swift Boat vets, whether the charges will be an issue in the presidential debates, and the basic themes of my book and its implications for the current War on Terror. I am originally scheduled to be on with the Washington Post's Dana Milbank. This was scratched and I am informed at the last minute that the other guest will be former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown.
As I am seated at the table with Matthews, who I am meeting for the first time, he cracks a joke--and not in a well-meaning way--about how I look. (There are quite a few people who are hung up on this.) "Are you sure you are old enough to be on the show? What are you? 28?" I grit my teeth. He badgers me again with the same question. I politely answer his question and supply my age.
(I wonder how Matthews' wife, the respected TV journalist Kathleen Matthews, who hosts a show about working women, would react if informed about her husband's treatment of a fellow female journalist. I've been in the business a dozen years and would be happy to talk to Mrs. Matthews about my firsthand experience with Neanderthal chauvinism in the workplace.)
Needless to say, things went downhill, fast and loud, from there.
1) Matthews introduces me, says we'll get to the subject of my book "in a minute," and launches into a spiel about how Bush should order the Swift Boat Vets to stop running their ads. Matthews intentionally mischaracterizes me as "speaking on behalf of the Bush campaign," when he knew full well I was there (with special permission from FOX News) to talk about my book, which he had sitting right next to him on the table and which he had chatted with me briefly about before the start of the segment. I correct him. He does not acknowledge his error.
2) When I tried to make a point about how the mainstream media ought to subject John Kerry to as much skull-pounding interrogation as private citizens such as Swift Boat Vet Larry Thurlow had endured from Matthews and the Washington Post, Matthews cut me off and snorted that he had never been thought of as "mainstream." Yeah, keep snorting.
3) In response to Matthews' claim that the Swift Boat Vets campaign was orchestrated by the White House, I noted that the Boston Globe--hardly a hothouse of GOP operatives--had raised many of the same questions about Kerry's war record as the Swift Boat Vets had. No response from Matthews.
4) Willie Brown expresses exasperation over Swift Boat Vets' questions about Kerry's wounds. He says: "There are questions about the shrapnel wounds. So what else is there? How much he got shot? How deep? How much shrapnel does he have?
Note that I didn't bring the subject of shrapnel. (Got that, Keith Olbermann?) Willie Brown raised the issue.
Here is how I responded verbatim:
"Well yeah. Why don't people ask him more specific questions about the shrapnel in his leg? There are legitimate questions about whether or not it was a self-inflicted wound."
Matthews frantically stuffed words down my mouth when I raised these allegations made in Unfit for Command that Kerry's wounds might have been self-inflicted. In his ill-informed and ideologically warped mind, this transmogrified into me accusing Kerry of "shooting himself on purpose" to get an award.
I repeated that the allegations involved whether the injuries were "self inflicted wounds." I DID NOT SAY HE SHOT HIMSELF ON PURPOSE and Chris Matthews knows it.
Only someone who had not read Unfit for Command would interpret what I was saying the way Matthews did. The book raises questions by vets, many of whom were with Kerry, about whether there was or wasn't enemy fire during the Dec. 1968 incident that led to his first Purple Heart (Patrick Runyon is quoted in a Boston Globe account on p. 35 saying "I can't say for sure that we got return fire or how [Kerry] got nicked. I couldn't say one way or the other. I know he did get nicked, a scrape on the arm.") and whether the injury came from a self-inflicted wound after he caught a tiny piece of shrapnel when he fired a grenade from his M-79 grenade launcher too close (p. 36); whether or not there was "intense rocket and rifle fire" during the Feb. 1969 incident that led to his second Purple Heart (Rocky Hildreth, officer of an accompanying boat on Dam Doi Canal that day, says there was no "intense rocket and rifle fire" on p. 78); and whether the shrapnel wound in his buttocks, which Kerry says he sustained in March 1969 and led to the awarding of his third Purple Heart, was the result of a mine explosion while on a mission or from a wound from his own grenade that he set off too close to a stock of rice he was trying to destroy (p. 87). See also pages 30-31. I was trying to get to these points, but Matthews would not let me finish a sentence.
Well, guess what? This foaming jerk Matthews, who called me irresponsible and kicked me off the show admitted that a) he himself had not read the damned book, b) he was not interested in asking Kerry about the specific doubts raised by vets about his wounds, and c) he had not and would not question Kerry about these specific allegations.
"Are you saying he shot himself on purpose?" Matthews hammered. I repeated myself again clearly that I was referring to the allegations about self-inflicted wounds in the book. When I tried to explain that the vets who were with Kerry had cast a lot of doubt on whether enemy fire occurred during the first two incidents, Matthews cut me off again. "Why did you say that?" he badgered. Because, I said, I was talking about what was in the book, which he had admitted he hadn't read.
"Don't you wonder?" I asked.
"No, I don't," he bellowed. "It's never occurred to me."
With that, I was kicked off the second segment.
As the show broke for commercials, Matthews scrambled for his producers to see if what he said was true. And I'm irresponsible? One staffer ran to the office where I had left my copy of the book, and handed it to Matthews, who--for the first time, apparently--started flipping through it. I asked for my book back and politely said thank you. After I left, he trashed me again on the air and his scurrilous charges were repeated by his MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann, who called me an "idiot."
I am used to playing hardball. I expect it. I am used to ad hominem attacks. I get more in a day than most of these wussies have received in their lifetimes. But what happened last night was pure slimeball and the unfair, unbalanced, and unhinged purveyors of journalism, or whatever it is they call what they do at MSNBC, should be ashamed.
What I take away from all this is that the Democrat Party waterboys in the media are in full desperation mode. I have now witnessed firsthand and up close (Matthews' spittle nearly hit me in the face) how the pressure from alternative media sources--the blogosphere, conservative Internet forums, talk radio, Regnery Publishing, FOX News, etc. --is driving these people absolutely batty.
Keep bringing it on.
By the way, the full MSNBC Hardball transcript is here. Matthews and Olbermann's blog bloviations are here. Olbermann expresses incredulity that I was simply reporting what the Swift Boat Vets' book says, rather than spouting off in a half-baked manner:
Ms. Malkin wouldnít even go so far as to attribute the suspicion to herself. It was in the book.
Olbermann, alleged journalist, is smearing me because I agreed to discuss and analyze claims made by the authors of Unfit for Command and actually referred to what was in the book--rather than cluelessly spew uninformed opinions about the book a la Chris Matthews (of whom Olbermann drools, "never prouder of you, Chris.") Parroting Matthews' conspiratorial line, Olbermann ignorantly suggests that I am following orders from the Swift Boat Vets to "steer the Kerry-Shot-Himself flotsam into the mainstream media." I suggest he talk to the producer, Dominic Bellone, who booked me about the circumstances of my appearance on the show and ask whether I was dispatched by the Bush campaign or Swift Boat Vets operatives or anyone else associated with the vets' book.
The feedback e-mail for Hardball is email@example.com.
Chris Matthews' phone number is listed in the Spring 2004 News Media Yellow Book as 202-885-4600.
Just wanted to end with what I think was the most significant exchange on the show involving Wille Brown, who made a stunning admission from a fellow Democrat about John Kerry's core deficiencies:
BROWN: John Kerry is the kind of a guy who is always laid back. He is always been dealing with people who were gentle, who were in every way respectful, who have a sense of dignity about themselves and a sense of honor. John Kerry may not be fit for the terrible battles and wars of the world of politics.
Keith Olberman SUX...MUD
Wow, Chrissy is becoming more unstable and outrageous every day! Good article, Mia!
BRILLIANT!!! Thanks !!!!
SOME POINTS TO PONDER, SWIFTLY Is Matthews a witless waterboy D who doesn't understand that 'self-inflicted' doesn't imply 'intentional'... or is he a colluding waterboy D who does? (A distinction without a difference, I suspect....)
Why don't Matthews and Olbermann have the intellectual curiosity, if not the professional ethics, to subject John Kerry to the same relentless inquisition to which they so casually subject his swift boat accusers?
Why don't the Washington Post et al. expend as much effort digging up both John Kerry's military/medical records and the contemporaneous after-action reports/records of all the swift boat officers and commanders who did missions with Kerry as the effort they have expended digging up swiftee Larry Thurlow's (and George W. Bush's) military (and medical) records and on attempting to discredit the swiftees, generally?
Corollary: Are Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. ignoring supportive documentation, e.g., the contemporaneous after-action reports/records of all the other swift boat officers and commanders that support the charges against Kerry made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?
Because the focus of Thurlow's Bronze Star citation was not his boat but Kerry's, and because Kerry's boat was not the focus of the underlying event, why wouldn't the obvious explanation be that it was Kerry's self-serving after-action report that was the source of the citation data? (That would explain the "contradiction" about whether or not there was hostile fire.)
Why isn't it obvious to Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. that Jim Rassmann, traumatized by the mine blast and, by his own account, mainly submerged underwater, was not the best eyewitness to the events surrounding Kerry's Bronze Star incident?
Corollary: As Jim Rassmann was the only person who recommended Kerry for a medal for this incident (other than Kerry, himself: his own self-serving after action report constituted an implicit self-recommendation), perhaps Kerry did not deserve the award, after all.
Why didn't Olberman notice that the logic of the Washington Post story yesterday that purportedly impeaches Larry Thurlow's account of the circumstances surrounding Kerry's Bronze Star was circular, at best?
Why do Matthews and Olbermann and the Washington Post et al. start with the assumption that John Kerry is telling the truth and his accusers are lying? Just the opposite has already been demonstrated to be the case about multiple charges.
It has, thus far, been demonstrated that Kerry lied about Cambodia, lied about throwing out his medals, lied about fleeing after the mine blast (the Bronze star event), "was over the top" (Kerry's own words) about the war crimes accusation.
Whatever happened to the following inescapable rule of thumb: falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus?
Why do Matthews et al. refuse to acknowledge the plain fact that the Swift Vets for Truth is a politically diverse group whose only common thread is the conclusion that John Kerry is dangerously unfit to be commander in chief?
Maybe Michelle should check for rabies after the close encounter with the spittle!
I surfed by his program last night, stopping for a few moments, and he was disgusting.
In reading about Michelle Malkin's experience with Chris, it becomes evident Chris was way over his head in dealing with her.
I've met her, and seen her in debate. She is gorgeous in person, while being very articulate and poised.
My wife asked the same question after witnessing the lying Chris Matthews make a complete idiot out of himself with Thurlow and Malkin. My answer: Because they don't want to. What would they do if they found out the Swifties for the Truth are actually telling the truth?
thank you :)
I long ago stopped watching "Hardball" for the simple reason that I could no longer tolerate the outrageous and impolite antics of Matthews. He talks so fast and cuts off dissent like a childish little bully who will take his ball home so no one else can play. In his foolish, self-absorbed world words-per-minute is a substitute for analysis and knowledge. He is a perfect example of the old adage,"Conservatives believe things when they see them. Liberals see things when they believe them".
Matthews is a RUMPSWAB for the democrat machine.
Does MSNBC pass out penicillin to counteract the storm of spittle that Matthews showers on his guests,or do they issue raincoats.
Ms. Malkin should never go anywhere near intellectual frauds like matthews.
Malkin is a true professional and matthews is a BUM.
Don't blame YaYa123; she was quoting me. ;)
"Self-inflicted" is motivation neutral; 'accidental" is not. As we do not know what was in Lt jg Kerry's little mind, the former term is the appropriate one.
Mrs. Matthews got a note from me this morning telling on Krissy.
Mrs. Matthews got a note from me this morning telling on Krissy.
I watched this interview last night. Chrissy came off as a complete a-hole. I doubt it played well with the viewers at all.
Olberman is a poser. He was barely competent to do sports.
Oh, ok... but I would wager that it's a PR tossup.
i just called the phone number listed abpove 202-885-4600 and got a recording then pressed for operator and spoke to apleasant lady who reported that a few hundred people have complained of chris' treatment of ms malkin. i informed her that the tel number i had was transferred to a recording and that the recorde was full of messages. she waidf the number was not an ideal mumber since it conneects to the chris mathew show and NOT Hardball. she then reconnectd me to what she believed was the Hardball producer but instead i got the recording for MSNBC. i complained of his demeanor and told him to apologize to ms malkin.
Michelle Malkin BUMP!
To paraphrase legendary Dodgers baseball announcer Vin Scully (when he is commenting on a player's use of the s-word), Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are "Fertilizer".
(Though, at least real fertilizer does some good, though it smells...not so, the aforementioned.)
Mr. Oldermann used to be a local sportscaster here on the Left Coast, KCBS 2. And KTLA 5. And KCOP 13. And Prime Ticket. And ESPN. (I'm sure I missed a few)
How a disgraced, malcontent sportscaster thinks that he has any salient opinion about what goes on in the political (real) world is news to me.
Count me in for a donation to the SBVFT's and to the President's campaign. I think that everytime these shills goes off on one of our side, we should respond by donating to those who are in line with our beliefs and values.
Thanks, Mia T, for the post.
I watched the replays of most of this stuff on MSNBC. I have to make a special effort to see it, because I deleted the channel from my set way back during the invasion of Iraq. MSNBC's bias was so rampant even then.
Mathews takes the cake however!
And Oberman's use of sarcasm does not hide what his motives really are.
They are in ratings hell, and have done anything to improve their standings. Microsoft is pulling out and with the terrible ratings of the olympics the mother network will be looking for something to dump.
I hope it is MSNBC. I would like to see Rupert make them an offer and create a real conservative forum.
They would make oodles of money.
Better a malcontent ex-sportscaster than a malefic ex-political operative, I say. At least with the former you get a somewhat comprehensible play-by-play. ;)
Etymology: Middle English traitre, from Old French, to hand over, deliver, betray
1 : One who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty...
2 : One who commits treason...
Yeah Chrissy, you f'ing idiot, what she says.
Read the book before you want to debate them, Chrissy.
<< Is Matthews a witless waterboy D who doesn't understand that 'self-inflicted' doesn't imply 'intentional'... or is he a colluding waterboy D who does? >>
Blessings -- B A
<< With that, I was kicked off the second segment ....
.... After I left, he trashed me again on the air and his scurrilous charges were repeated by his MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann, who called me an "idiot."
I am used to playing hardball .... I get more [Ad hominem attacks] in a day than most of these wussies have received in their lifetimes. But what happened last night was pure slimeball and the unfair, unbalanced and unhinged.
Purveyors of "journalism" -- or whatever it is they call what they do at MSNBC -- should be ashamed.
.... the Democrat Party waterboys in the media are in full desperation mode .... the pressure from alternative media sources -- the blogosphere, conservative Internet forums, talk radio, Regnery Publishing, FOX News etceteras -- is driving these people absolutely batty.
Keep bringing it on. >>
Gotta disagree with you on this. Olbermann was DA MAN at SportsCenter with Dan Patrick.
For the life of me I don't understand why he would want to become a lefty journalist.
Olbermann is now claiming that he never called Malkin an 'idiot'.
I distinctly remember him making some smart ass remark when the show opened that included the word idiot.
I've checked the transcript and there is no record of the opening remark, just his standard opening, "Which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow?".
In his blog, he says that he went and checked the transcript to see if he called her an idiot and of course couldn't find it. This gives him an out when he's caught.
Did any Freeper waste video tape on this loser?
Self-serving, falsified reports sent up the chain of command appears to have been the Kerry m.o. in Vietnam.
How many more examples are there, I wonder...
Statement by Navy Veteran Van Odell, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, in Rebuttal to Michael Dobbs, Washington Post, August 19, 2004
A courageous, soft spoken man of the Midwest, Larry Thurlow has a heart bigger than the great plains and a commitment to truth and honesty that is boundless. He is under attack, because John Kerry is feeling the heat of truth at the hands of this honest man and others like him.
The Kerry Campaign is attacking the truthfulness of this man and the Bronze Star he so richly deserves for his actions on March 13, 1969. I was there. I saw what happened.
The mine's detonation lifted PCF-3 completely out of the water just yards ahead of me. All boats commenced suppression fire in case enemy small arms fire ensued. None did.
All boats came to the aid of PCF-3, except one: John Kerry's boat. Kerry fled.
Larry Thurlow piloted his boat straight toward the mine-damaged PCF-3 from which thick, black smoke billowed. He jumped aboard and personally led damage control operations that saved the boat and rescue operations that saved the lives of badly wounded men. Larry's leadership was in the highest traditions of the naval service. His leadership allowed the other men and boats of the mission to exit the river safely.
This "single act of meritorious service" -- the chief requirement of the Bronze Star -- should be honored, not ridiculed, by the Kerry campaign and its allies in the mainstream media.
To reiterate, only one enemy weapon was deployed that day -- the command-detonated submerged mine that disabled PCF-3. Larry Thurlow's citation contained references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire," because that was the language chosen by John Kerry who penned the "spot report" on the action that day. There was no "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" received that day. John Kerry's report was fiction -- a hoax on the entire chain of command.
Larry Thurlow's heroism and meritorious service, however, is real. To me Larry is one of the heroes of our country. He is a man who served his country when called and who returned home to be a productive citizen. Larry and men like him are the strong backbone of our society. I am proud to have served with him.
LOL...I try not to waste a minute of my life watching MSNBC and/or CNBC, let alone taping a DOLT like Olberman; however, I'm pretty sure Limbaugh's staff records most of these shows. They had Matthews' hijacking of his Malkin interview and ChrissieBoy sounded like a fool!! Perhaps they caught Olberman in his lie, too.
All excellent questions. Needless to say, the alphabet soup will ignore them (along with the nytlatwp). If journalism was a true profession, all the anchors (and editors) would be fined for malpractice.
Weenie Boy Olberman had the broken, crass, debilitated balls to call Michelle Malkin an idiot the other night.
He and Chrissy 'Spitball' Matthews should stay out of dark alleys for the next few YEARS!
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