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Lib Author Regrets Voting for clinton / "Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America
The O'Reilly Factor | 9.4.03 | Mia T

Posted on 09/04/2003 11:02:26 AM PDT by Mia T

Lib Author Regrets Voting (TWICE!) for clinton
"Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America from Terrorism

by Mia T. 9.4.03

CEW YORK, Sept.4- Gerald Posner revealed yesterday on "The O'Reilly Factor," (FoxNews), that he voted for clinton TWICE but would not have done so, knowing what he knows today.

He said that when he was researching his new book, he was nauseated -- literally -- by clinton's utter failure to protect America from the growing global threat of terrorism.

Posner added that he was further sickened by the attempt of the clintons and their minions to rewrite the clinton legacy of utter failure. (It was the terrorism, stupid.)
(see:
it won't s-p-i-n: CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme )


As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.

... Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

The clintons' failures unleashed global terror.
Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?





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THE CLINTONS--AMERICA'S BIGGEST BLUNDER
Hear Bush 41 Warn Us--October 19, 1992*

hear

*Thanx to Cloud William for text and audio

 

LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ...

On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision?

And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word.

And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America.

(Applause)

 

play tape

 

LEFT-WING TALK RADIO 2: "It's the terrorism, stupid."

 

by Mia T, 1-21-03

 

 

 

PART 1
PART 2

Hear clinton stupidity, smallness, banality, fecklessness, ineptitude, prevarication, corruption, perfidy and utter failure directly from the rapist, himself. clinton provides the perfect foil for Bush, who makes a cameo appearance or two.

Pay special attention to Dan Rather's little story about terrorism hitting the U.S. "bigtime" during the clintons' tenure.

In particular, connect the following dots: the '93 WTC bombing. a certain bin Laden protégé and clinton's admission that he passed up bin Laden. Note clinton's spurious argument for this monumental failure.

To this day, clinton seems not to understand that bin Laden is -- and was in 1996 -- an enemy of the state, not a simple criminal.

clinton still seems not to get it -- the same terrorist --the terrorist he refused to take--hit the same building in '93.

Notwithstanding this, to hear clinton tell it, his disastrous decision not to take bin Laden when offered on a silver platter by Sudan, (arguably the worst decision ever made by a president), derived from his scrupulous avoidance of abusing power and trashing laws...

Yeah, right.

 

HEAR:

 

  • the attacks on America

     

  • Dan Rather ruminating on the terrorism that came to America "bigtime" during clinton years

     

  • Dan Rather relating OBL protégé, Ramzi Yousef threat to clinton FBI that the terrorists WILL complete the job

     

  • the clinton non-response to terror

     

  • FDR response (says national security a president's raison d'être)

     

  • Bush response:
    "I can hear YOU...,"

    "I [as opposed to clinton] will not wait on events, while dangers gather," etc.

     

  • Mike Moran "Osama bin Laden, you can kiss my royal Irish ass" battle cry

     

  • "go home hillary!" chant, etc.

 

hear

 

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Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.

Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering
by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)

A Fish Rots from the Head

Investor's Business Daily

 

Ijaz, an admitted Clinton supporter who helped negotiate these opportunities to nab bin Laden, said, "The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening."

Ijaz says that three months before bin Laden's men blew up the USS Cole in Yemen, he "brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings (in Tanzania and Kenya)... But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer."

Clinton's apparent boredom with vital information extended beyond Sudanese intelligence officers to his own intelligence officers. His first CIA director, James Woolsey, couldn't get a meeting with Clinton in the two years he served. Woolsey left the Clinton administration disgusted with its slovenly approach to national security. ...

To hear Clinton now say "We must do more to reduce the pool of potential terrorists" is thus beyond farce. He had numerous opportunities to reduce that pool, and he blew it.

The pool, in fact, grew larger on Clinton's watch, as he spent his final days giving pardons to drug dealers, Puerto Rican terrorists and Marc Rich, a fugitive who topped America's most-wanted list.

 

NEW AUDIO!

Hear the Bill Bennett epilogue

 In this light, Clinton's order to the CIA that it not use "unsavory characters" to collect information pushes irony to its outer limits.

 
hillary clinton blames better half for terrorism
(SHE knew, "you know," nuttin')

Meet the Press, 12-09-01

 

Mia T, 12-09-01

 

 

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

 

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president.*

-GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

 

 

Had George Will written Sleaze, the sequel (the "sequel" is, of course, hillary) after 9-11-01, I suspect that he would have had to forgo the above conceit, as the doubt expressed in the setup phrase was, from that day forward, no longer operational.

Indeed, assessing the clinton presidency an abject failure is not inconsistent with commentary coming from the left, most recently the LA Times: "Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize."

When the clintons left office, I predicted that the country would eventually learn--sadly, the hard way--that this depraved, self-absorbed and inept pair had placed America (and the world) in mortal danger. But I was thinking years, not months.

It is very significant that hillary clinton didn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism. (Meet the Press, 12-09-01), notwithstanding tired tactics (if you can't pass the buck, spread the blame) and chronic "KnowNothing Victim Clinton" self-exclusion.

If leftist pandering keeps the disenfranchized down in perpetuity, clinton pandering,("it's the economy, stupid"), kept the middle and upper classes wilfully ignorant for eight years.

And ironically, both results (leftist social policy and the clinton economy) are equally illusory, fraudulent. It is becoming increasingly clear that clinton covertly cooked the books even as he assiduously avoided essential actions that would have negatively impacted the economy--the ultimate source of his continued power--actions like, say, going after the terrorists.

It is critically important that hillary clinton fail in her grasp for power; read Peggy Noonan's little book, 'The Case Against Hillary Clinton' and Barbara Olson's two books; it is critical that the West de-clintonize, but that will be automatic once it is understood that the clintons risked civilization itself in order to gain and retain power.

It shouldn't take books, however, to see that a leader is a dangerous, self-absorbed sicko. People should be able to figure that out for themselves. The electorate must be taught to think, to reason. It must be able to spot spin, especially in this age of the electronic demagogue.

I am not hopeful. As Bertrand Russell noted, "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "

 

 

 

*George Will continues: There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

 

THE INTERMINABLE clintons
It's time to take out the trash...
A Senate en passant capture is THE MOVE...

NEW AUDIO! Hear the Bill Bennett (PARDONGATE) epilogue .

 

 

Free Republic is one of those groups obsessed with the Clinton era.

Word's out: Protest at Hillary's tonight
(Freeper Named In Washington Whispers Article!!!!
U.S. News & World Report (Washington Whispers) |
March 11, 2003 | Paul Bedard

 

I'll bet that Mr. Bedard is a member of "one of those groups" so "obsessed" with voting in the clintons that they--ooops-- failed to notice the obvious danger of the lovely couple.

Thanx for 9/11, Paul...

"ONE OF THOSE GROUPS OBSESSED WITH THE CLINTONS"

The Real Danger of a Fake President:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President

Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent

 


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1 posted on 09/04/2003 11:02:36 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?
2 posted on 09/04/2003 11:06:50 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Mia T
see/hear Possner again tonight on Hardboiled with Chris Matthews.
3 posted on 09/04/2003 11:09:56 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Mia T
Great job, as always!
4 posted on 09/04/2003 11:12:18 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I've abandoned my search for truth - Now looking for a good fantasy.)
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To: Shermy
He took office in January 2001, dopehead.
5 posted on 09/04/2003 11:12:18 AM PDT by JohnMac
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To: Shermy
Boy, you liberals really DON'T know how to count, do you?!? George W. Bush was inaugurated on January 20, 2001...less than 9 full months before September 11th. Half of his nominees hadn't even been voted on by the obstructionist Senate Commies, aka Democrat Traitors. Before that, he was governor of Texas and I highly doubt that a governor could do ANYTHING to convince the cowards in the WH to protect America.

Bubba and Algore were in office for 8 FULL YEARS before 9/11. The question should be what did they FAIL to do during that time to protect America. They refused to take Osama into custody on at least 3 separate occasions. They coddled and whittled while the islamofascists blew up Americans left and right all over the world (Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Tanzania, etc).
6 posted on 09/04/2003 11:13:46 AM PDT by medscribe
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To: Shermy
Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?

1 1/2 years? You must not have been a math major.

7 posted on 09/04/2003 11:16:21 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: TC Rider
Gonna have to watch that.

Betcha ol'Hardboiled lets Posner say "good evening" and then leaps down his throat.

8 posted on 09/04/2003 11:20:26 AM PDT by sauropod ("How do you know Sheila Jackson Lee's a queen?" "Because she doesn't sit with the little people")
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To: Mia T
Posner was bubbling over with this information last night on O'Reilly. Bill, who should have devoted his whole show to this, kept interrupting Posner (what else is new) and barely let the man get part of the story out.

It will be interesting to see how little publicity Posner gets on this book.
9 posted on 09/04/2003 11:20:36 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: JohnMac
It's not nice to call anyone names but I had to do the same math for my hubby last night after seeing this author.
10 posted on 09/04/2003 11:22:05 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I've abandoned my search for truth - Now looking for a good fantasy.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; Slyfox; ...
The clintons' failures unleashed global terror.
Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office? ping 

UDAY: "I think the end is near" because "this time I think the Americans are serious, Bush is not like Clinton."

Q ERTY9

BUSH: "I will not wait on events, while dangers gather."

 

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President's Remarks
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This country has many challenges. We will not deny, we will not ignore, we will not pass along our problems to other Congresses, to other presidents, and other generations. (Applause.) We will confront them with focus and clarity and courage...

Sending Americans into battle is the most profound decision a President can make. The technologies of war have changed; the risks and suffering of war have not. For the brave Americans who bear the risk, no victory is free from sorrow. This nation fights reluctantly, because we know the cost and we dread the days of mourning that always come.

We seek peace. We strive for peace. And sometimes peace must be defended. A future lived at the mercy of terrible threats is no peace at all. If war is forced upon us, we will fight in a just cause and by just means -- sparing, in every way we can, the innocent. And if war is forced upon us, we will fight with the full force and might of the United States military -- and we will prevail. (Applause.)

State of the Union Address by President George W. Bush


11 posted on 09/04/2003 11:22:18 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: JohnMac
He took office in January 2001, dopehead.

Oh, OK, I was including his campaign statements and positions and policy pronouncements about what he was going to do. I didn't hear him say a word about terrorism or Osama. Mostly just SDI.

Anyway, everybody in power was asleep. Few were awake. That's not meant to excuse whatever Clinton did or didn't do (another beef - not finishing off Saddam in 1998.)

12 posted on 09/04/2003 11:23:22 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Mia T
Mia, I love you girl, but do you really have to paste your whole website on a post?
13 posted on 09/04/2003 11:25:08 AM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Mia T; All
As I said, I was tiffing with the hubby last night about this.
Does anyone know a time when Clinton did ANYTHING about OBL? Or ever even used OBL as an excuse to take military action?
14 posted on 09/04/2003 11:26:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I've abandoned my search for truth - Now looking for a good fantasy.)
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To: Shermy
And that’s to Gore and the Demos., he was very late getting his Cabinet organized. Then was then hit by Bin Laden and his handlers in the Islamic world.
15 posted on 09/04/2003 11:26:45 AM PDT by Helms ("I Want My MTV" (More Televised Vulgarity))
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To: sauropod
I dunno... Matthews milked Miniter's story for all it was worth...

MUST-READ BOOK FOR DEMOCRATS:
How clintons' Failures Unleashed Global Terror

(Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?)
 

Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton’s Failures Unleashed Global Terror
by Richard Miniter
Regnery Publishing, Inc.; ISBN: 0895260743
Hardcover - 256 pages (September 2003)

Years before the public knew about bin Laden, Bill Clinton did. Bin Laden first attacked Americans during Clinton’s presidential transition in December 1992. He struck again at the World Trade Center in February 1993. Over the next eight years the archterrorist’s attacks would escalate killing hundreds and wounding thousands&emdash;while Clinton did his best to stymie the FBI and CIA and refused to wage a real war on terror.

Why?

The answer is here in investigative reporter Richard Miniter’s stunning exposé that includes exclusive interviews with both of Clinton’s National Security Advisors, Clinton’s counter-terrorism czar, his first CIA director, his Secretary of State, his Secretary of Defense, top CIA and FBI agents, lawmakers from both parties and foreign intelligence officials from France, Sudan, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates, as well as on the-scene coverage from Sudan, Egypt, and elsewhere.

In Losing bin Laden you’ll learn:

  • The new evidence that Clinton knew about Sudan’s offers to arrest bin Laden&emdash;and why he ignored them
  • The never before told story of the Saudi government attempt to assassinate bin Laden
  • Why Bill Clinton refused to meet with his first director of Central Intelligence
  • Drawn from secret Sudanese intelligence files, the never-before-told story of Bin Laden’s role in shooting down America’s Black Hawk helicopters in Mogadishu, Somalia&emdash;and how Clinton manipulated the news media to keep the worst off America’s TV screens
  • How Clinton ignored intelligence and offers of cooperation against bin Laden from Afghanistan’s Northern Alliance
  • How Bill Clinton scuttled a secret offer from the United Arab Emirates to arrest bin Laden
  • The 1993 World Trade Center attack&emdash;why Clinton refused to believe it had been bombed; why the CIA was kept out of the investigation; and how one of the FBI’s most trusted informants was actually a double agent working for bin Laden
  • Why the CIA never funded bin Laden&emdash;despite the liberal myths
  • How Clinton ignored Yemen’s pleas for help in arresting bin Laden&emdash;in 1993
  • The untold story of a respected Congressman who repeatedly warned Clinton officials about bin Laden in 1993&emdash;and why he was ignored
  • Revealed for the first time: how Clinton and a Democratic Senator stopped the CIA from hiring Arabic translators&emdash;while phone intercepts from bin Laden remained untranslated
  • How the Predator spy plane&emdash;which spotted bin Laden three times&emdash;was grounded by bureaucratic infighting.
  • Plus much more, including, appendices of secret documents and photos, as well as the established links between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

Losing bin Laden is a dramatic, page-turning read, a riveting account of a terror war that bin Laden openly declared, but that Clinton left largely unfought. With a pounding narrative, up-close characters and detailed scenes, it takes you inside the Oval Office, the White House Situation Room and within some of the deadliest terrorist cells that America has ever faced. If Clinton had fought back, the attacks on September 11, 2001 might never have happened.

Losing bin Laden is a story&emdash;and one hell of a lesson&emdash;that the reader will never forget.

EXCERPTS:
Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror
Miniter, Richard

"[CIA Director] Woolsey tried to establish a rapport with the president. Sometimes he would accompany the CIA briefing officer to the White House for the daily intelligence briefing. He hoped the President would invite him in, as was customary in past Administrations. Though the President was told that Woolsey was waiting outside in an anteroom, Clinton never asked to see him."


"This frank report reveals that the CIA and other senior policymakers knew about bin Laden-related intelligence failures as early as 1996 -- five years before the September 11 attacks -- and did little about them. It also shows that CIA director Woolsey's concerns were correct. But he couldn't get Clinton's help to beef up funding for the recruitment of local sources. He couldn't even get a meeting with Clinton. So America was in the dark, as bin Laden plotted."
"The New York FBI office knew about a growing network of Islamic extremists in the tri-state area, but the agents couldn't even open a full investigation. . . . And, in 1993, the idea of punishing small, seemingly insignificant crimes as a way of preventing larger ones had not yet taken hold. The FBI was aware that many Islamic radicals were training with weapons at Connecticut and Pennsylvania gun ranges. . . ."
"Saddam Hussein's punishment for plotting to kill a former American President [George Bush] was the destruction of an empty building in central Baghdad. Clinton, who exercised the death penalty in his home state for convicted murderers, wanted to minimize casualties. The missile strike was most likely not seen as a sign of strength by an Iraqi dictator who would casually order executions over lunch."
"The next crisis came on August 8 [1993], when a U.S. Army humvee drove down a rough road in southern Mogadishu. Concealed in a pothole was a land mine. A wire ran from the mine to a nearby building. A Somali spotter watched the vehicle approach. When the humvee was in position, he clicked the detonator. Four American military policemen were murdered. . . . Again, the President took no action."


16 posted on 09/04/2003 11:28:29 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: medscribe
Boy, you liberals really DON'T know how to count, do you?!? George W. Bush was inaugurated on January 20, 2001...less than 9 full months before September 11th. Half of his nominees hadn't even been voted on by the obstructionist Senate Commies, aka Democrat Traitors. Before that, he was governor of Texas and I highly doubt that a governor could do ANYTHING to convince the cowards in the WH to protect America.

But he was. The focus was on SDI/Star Wars - funding it, increasing it, shrinking army soldiery to pay for it. Remember all the sales jobs, sending Powell to the Russians to beg them to renounce the ABM treaty, even luring them by promising to buy Russian SAMs and such, which are useless to us, to pay off the Russians? Remember what Eisenhower said about the Military Industrial Complex? 9/11 kicked us in the pants, and brought the best qualities out in Bush's appointments.

Bubba and Algore were in office for 8 FULL YEARS before 9/11. The question should be what did they FAIL to do during that time to protect America. They refused to take Osama into custody on at least 3 separate occasions. They coddled and whittled while the islamofascists blew up Americans left and right all over the world (Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Tanzania, etc).

All true.

17 posted on 09/04/2003 11:29:28 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Remember also that Condi Rice gave a plan to the President to take care of Bin Laden just a few days before 911.
18 posted on 09/04/2003 11:35:26 AM PDT by rintense (I've had it with illegals and liberals. Get the hell out of my country.)
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To: Mia T
Posner is the same lib who, after 9/11, made the incredible admission that though he fought strongly to have the Bush win overturned and have Gore installed as president and he insisted that Bush "stole" the election, that he didn't really know or care who rightfully won, but felt that he was in a better position than the American voters to make that decision. That's my paraphrase of what he said in this article. Here's what he wrote:

"Of course, I did not know whether the election had gone for Mr. Gore or George W. Bush. As a partisan, I did not care. I was convinced that Mr. Gore was by far the best-qualified candidate and the man most fit to lead the U.S. Mr. Bush was not only untested nationally, but he seemed to me bereft of the character or intellect to become a real leader, and I feared that four years, and possibly eight, under Mr. Bush would set the country back.

"How wrong I was. Since the murderous terror attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush has come alive in a way I did not think possible. It was as though the attack on America -- which he rightly called an "act of war" from the start -- gave him a focus and clarity I had not earlier seen."

Obviously Mr. Posner was deeply affected by 9/11 and is one of the few libs who has actually learned from it.

19 posted on 09/04/2003 11:35:44 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Shermy
Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?

What President Bush did for the eight months (1-1/2 years??) before 9/11 was have his team put together a plan to take out the Taliban, which was on his desk on 9/10.

20 posted on 09/04/2003 11:37:35 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Mia T
Interesting to hear a lib backtrack. However, have to wonder if this was just an opportunity to hawk his book.
21 posted on 09/04/2003 11:40:52 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: rintense; marron
Remember also that Condi Rice gave a plan to the President to take care of Bin Laden just a few days before 911.

Apparently. Might have been a special plan, might have been normal contingency planning. And the 6+2 confrontation with the Taliban in the summer of 2001 is intriguing. 9/11 a preemptive strike? Just a feint to ease elimination of the Northern Alliance and move into Central Asia?

Big chapters in this story haven't been fleshed out and certainly I might be impressed about pre-9/11 anti-Osama strategy in the future once the info ever comes out...if ever. The press is almost useless, I don't think they'll ever consider the assaination of Shah Massoud in the big picture of things.

22 posted on 09/04/2003 11:42:02 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: lilylangtree
However, have to wonder if this was just an opportunity to hawk his book.

See post 19. Posner changed his tune in September of 2001.

23 posted on 09/04/2003 11:42:25 AM PDT by alnick
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To: sauropod; All
I dunno... Matthews milked Miniter's story for all it was worth...

...as opposed to O'Reilly interviewing Posner; o'reilly was bending over backwards--or,more precisely, leftward, to give clinton every benefit of the doubt. (clinton had spun o'reilly in the flesh about the terrorism, you see.)

IMO, o'reilly is playing the long shot as he name-drops, angling for a clinton interview.

24 posted on 09/04/2003 11:44:16 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: alnick
bump!
25 posted on 09/04/2003 11:44:51 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Yep. I have lost a lot of respect for O'Really.
26 posted on 09/04/2003 11:55:04 AM PDT by sauropod ("How do you know Sheila Jackson Lee's a queen?" "Because she doesn't sit with the little people")
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To: alnick
Thanks for the Posner quote.

I believe that there is a subset of dems -- the rational thinkers -- who will never again vote for a democrat.

 

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copyright Mia T 2003.

by Mia T, 4.6.03

 

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

 

Mia T, THE ALIENS

 

Al From is sounding the alarm. "Unless we convince Americans that Democrats are strong on national security," he warns his party, "Democrats will continue to lose elections."

Helloooo? That the Democrats have to be spoon-fed what should be axiomatic post-9/11 is, in and of itself, incontrovertible proof that From's advice is insufficient to solve their problem.

From's failure to fully lay out the nature of the Democrats' problem is not surprising: he is the guy who helped seal his party's fate. It was his Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) that institutionalized the proximate cause of the problem, clintonism, and legitimized its two eponymic provincial operators on the national stage. The "Third Way" and "triangulation" don't come from the same Latin root for no reason.

That "convince" is From's operative word underscores the Democrats' dilemma. Nine-eleven was transformative. It is no longer sufficient merely to convince. One must demonstrate, demonstrate convincingly, if you will… which means both in real time and historically.

When it comes to national security, Americans will no longer take any chances. Turning the turn of phrase back on itself, the era of the Placebo President is over. (Incidentally, the oft-quote out-of-context sentence fragment alluded to here transformed meaningless clinton triangulation into a meaningful if deceptive soundbite.)

Although From is loath to admit it -- the terror in his eyes belies his facile solution -- the Democratic party's problem transcends its anti-war contingent.

With a philosophy that relinquishes our national sovereignty -- and relinquishes it reflexively… and to the UN no less -- the Democratic party is, by definition, the party of national insecurity.

With policy ruled by pathologic self-interest -- witness the "Lieberman Paradigm," Kerry's "regime change" bon mot (gone bad), Edwards' and the clintons' brazen echoes thereof (or, alternatively, Pelosi's less strident wartime non-putdown putdown)… and, of course, the clincher -- eight years of the clintons' infantilism, grotesquerie and utter failure -- the Democratic party is, historically and in real time, the party of national insecurity.

The Democrats used to be able to wallpaper their national insecurity with dollars and demogoguery. But that was before 9/11.

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime


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Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent
missus clinton's REAL virtual office updateBUMP!

27 posted on 09/04/2003 11:55:31 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: sauropod
My wife and I used to watch O'Reilly faithfully every night, then he started harping about finding the WMD's in Iraq and how Bush was in real trouble, we haven't watched him since. He claims to be Independent, but he sure leans way over to the LEFT if you ask me.
28 posted on 09/04/2003 12:00:13 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: Mia T; Admin Moderator
oh my gosh - clicking on one of your threads/posts is nearly as bad clicking on an ad banner and have 30,000 pop ups appear. Won't make that mistake again.
29 posted on 09/04/2003 12:05:33 PM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: anoldafvet
Yep. He believes that chicken little global warming crap.
30 posted on 09/04/2003 12:07:15 PM PDT by sauropod ("How do you know Sheila Jackson Lee's a queen?" "Because she doesn't sit with the little people")
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To: anoldafvet
The WMD rant lacks intellectual honesty. My guess is that he is motivated more by career advancement than by ideology.

I also think he ain't all that bright....
31 posted on 09/04/2003 12:22:56 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Shermy
Governed Texas?
32 posted on 09/04/2003 12:24:56 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Frapster
I would apologize for disturbing your sensibilities, but you say you aren't coming back... ;)
33 posted on 09/04/2003 12:27:04 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Frapster; Mia T
oh my gosh - clicking on one of your threads/posts is nearly as bad clicking on an ad banner and have 30,000 pop ups appear. Won't make that mistake again.

You've been a member since 1998 and you are just figuring this out?

I think her posts are great.

34 posted on 09/04/2003 12:28:12 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Shermy
Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?

Should I submit this for quote of the day?

35 posted on 09/04/2003 12:28:31 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Should I submit this for quote of the day?

Under the ADA, that would be a hate crime against the mathematically impaired. Proceed with care...

36 posted on 09/04/2003 12:34:41 PM PDT by Shermy (Today's weather...Laci waning...Ahnold waxing...Kobe holding steady..Osama/Saddam/Kerry intermittent)
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To: 1Old Pro; JohnHuang2
>>"Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?"

Should I submit this for quote of the day?<<

Yes!!!
I think we will all go "duh".
37 posted on 09/04/2003 1:05:57 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I've abandoned my search for truth - Now looking for a good fantasy.)
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To: Mia T
As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.

Huh? Since when is Gerald Posner a Muslim name????

38 posted on 09/04/2003 1:09:17 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: Mia T
Couric on NBC asked him, so are you blaming Bill Clinton, and he all but said yes...Couric was troubled, and quickly moved on!
39 posted on 09/04/2003 1:17:12 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: PJ-Comix
Sorry for the confusion. That quote was from the Mansoor Ijaz op-ed in the LATimes, Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize.
40 posted on 09/04/2003 1:47:07 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Read later.
41 posted on 09/04/2003 2:15:13 PM PDT by EagleMamaMT
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To: Mia T
I saw on c span our senators working overtime on classrom sizes for public schools and paid for prescription for the elderly and the not so elderly scammers and our country is being looted and sacked by the mongol hordes - huns !

All the DNC is ... a money redistribution scam of power - fear mongerers --- panderers !

The media has so brainwashed the public ... conservatives can't question the circus - giveaways - crony science - jobs of the educrats !

Bush has to feed them !
42 posted on 09/04/2003 4:57:44 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: CajunConservative
lol - you're the second person to send me a note about how long I've been a member over some issue. That last one was when I posted my first breaking news about 4 weeks ago. I'm glad you like her posts. I'm just expressing an opinion and you know what they say about those. ;-)
43 posted on 09/04/2003 6:39:10 PM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: Mia T
Hey - I can read this post! woot. ;-)
44 posted on 09/04/2003 6:39:50 PM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: Mia T
I'm gonna hafta read Posner's book (on the library's dime, of course) to see what other conclusions he has reached about the Clinton era and the American left in general.

Seems to me that there has been, and will increasingly become the norm, an apologetic contingent within the left that are using Clinton as a door mat to wipe their feet before they try another attempt to get back into the house. Bill makes a good patsy for blame. Kinda reminds me of when Bill Casey died back in the 80's. Everything that was illegal or screwed up in the world was laid at his feet.

Does anyone know what Posner's beliefs are these days?
45 posted on 09/04/2003 7:34:32 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Frapster
Ahem...

"Resolve this day to see yourself, the world around you and others through the eyes of the Lord." --Jeff
46 posted on 09/04/2003 7:42:15 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: Shermy
Well, what did Bush II do for 1 1/2 years before 9/11?

It seems to me that Jan 20, 2001 to Sept 11, 2001 is somewhat less than 1 1/2 years. One of us is wrong.

47 posted on 09/04/2003 7:46:15 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: Conservababe
Mia, I love you girl, but do you really have to paste your whole website on a post?

I agree and hate to open one of her threads. I think it should be required that she put her name in the title so we can avoid them until we have lots of time! ;-)

48 posted on 09/04/2003 7:49:47 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Her name is there - right under the title and after the phrase "Posted by:"
49 posted on 09/04/2003 8:09:55 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
always good advice - someone really smart wrote that.
50 posted on 09/04/2003 9:08:54 PM PDT by Frapster (John 3:16)
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