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Land line for DSL; I'm looking for alternatives. (Vanity)

Posted on 08/23/2004 8:01:02 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu

Since we rarely use the phone, I'm wondering what my options are.


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I'm looking for a DSL alternative without a land line. Right now we're paying ~$130 a month for telephone service (Cincinnati Bell) which includes my cell phone and a DSL connection.

The land line service has all the bells and whistles, because if I remove all the stuff we don't use, the bill actually increases.

We have a dish and subscribe to DirecTV, and I really don't want to give money to the local roadrunner company.

We're often gone two weeks or more at a time, and return to no messages on the home phone, so my thinking is that since Mr. Lu and I both have cell phones, we really don't need the land line.

Recommendations, anyone?

I've checked, and Verizon DSL isn't available here, but Earthlink is.

1 posted on 08/23/2004 8:01:03 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: LuLuLuLu
I can tell you as a tech for BellSouth DSL that you have to have the land line in order to have DSL. Your only option is to get just the basic dialtone service which will increase your DSL bill but should decrease your dialtone bill by more than the increase of your DSL bill.
2 posted on 08/23/2004 8:05:31 AM PDT by Parthalan
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To: LuLuLuLu
You don't want to pay RR. What's the cost of Cinci Bell without the land line? You don't need the land line phone for DSL - Two seperate sets of wire, unless Bell gives you a discount on DSL (and/or your cell phones) for having a land line.

Your only other option is DirectWay sat internet. A Costly solution since you have to buy the Sat modem.

3 posted on 08/23/2004 8:08:08 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: LuLuLuLu

Direcway.com, a two-way satellite internet provider, $60 per month or so after equipment is paid for (1st year at $100/mo buys the equip and service)


4 posted on 08/23/2004 8:08:22 AM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: LuLuLuLu

you have the best alternative.

IF you need the cell phone and the land line (required for many services), usually the DSL is the better way to go.

I have had both Cable Modem and ADSL - The cable modem was slower but the speed was steady both ways.

THe ADSL was much faster on the download side, but it varied depending on total area usage.

ADSL = $26.95 /mo for 384k
Cable = $49.95 / mo for 384k

cable brings with it - left-wing, socialist, homosexual trash TV

I disconnected my TV -and cable and now run on ADSL

Never happier.

Total phone bill including UNLIMITED long distance (inside US) $99 (includes taxes)


5 posted on 08/23/2004 8:09:58 AM PDT by steplock
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To: LuLuLuLu

Out of the options you talked about, you probably have the cheapest setup now. The only other option MIGHT be wireless, if it's available in your area.


6 posted on 08/23/2004 8:15:47 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: steplock; All

Current telephone bill breakdown:

(Apoligies for this not being formatted well.)

Monthly service: 72.35
That includes the DSL and the bells and whistles called Complete Connections.

We have more minutes of long distance calling than we've ever used -- 200 per month.

We also pay a $3.00 monthly fee for cheap(er) international calls, since Mr. Lu travels a lot.

My cell phone with tax is $35.95 per month.


7 posted on 08/23/2004 8:18:50 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: LuLuLuLu

Have a look around and see if there are any wireless ISPs around - no landline is needed; they bring a small box to your house and mount an antenna there. If you need help finding one, let me know in private FreepMail.


8 posted on 08/23/2004 8:22:18 AM PDT by ikka
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To: LuLuLuLu

Sounds like a pretty high price.

Doubt it's available many places. But my ISP has an antenna at the airport NW of town and one across the river from us on the bluffs which some of us connect to via microwave antennae on top of our roofs.

We have 2 computers hooked via lan line to the antenna on our roof then to the ISP at slightly faster than DSL speeds.

I think the cost is about $30/mo or some such.


9 posted on 08/23/2004 8:22:27 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: LuLuLuLu

What I do when I move to a new location is check dslreports.com for my city and zip code. They have a pretty good listing of alternative broadband sources. Then again, I once spent weeks searching for broadband everywhere without success, then just happened to overhear some guys at a local computer store talking about a little-known local wireless service that not only served up good broadband, but also was reasonably priced (considering there was no alternative). So, you need to investigate your specific location, there is no generic solution for everyone everywhere.


10 posted on 08/23/2004 8:25:19 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: LuLuLuLu

Try

http://starband.com/

I've been on it for over 3 years.


11 posted on 08/23/2004 8:25:20 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (I just pay the rent. The cats, dog and goat let me live here.)
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To: AFreeBird

DirecWay download speed is under 1 MBS. Zoomtown (Cincinnati Bell DSL) is now about 2.5 MBS. And it is not blanked by rain fade. ANd I agree: stay away from RR.


12 posted on 08/23/2004 8:39:47 AM PDT by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: LuLuLuLu

LuLu,

Good question. I just went through this. DSL requires the phone company's wires to your home.

You might want to price "stand-alone DSL", which uses the phone lines for DSL but disconnects the phone service. This is as low as $15 or as high as $32 from Qwest depending on the speed of the DSL service and your ISP (here, they have cheaper rates for customers of the largest ISP, which they don't advertise). Then there are several options for your regular phone service. In addition to my regular cell service, I went to a limited usage Vonage VoIP service (Google Vonage for service options and prices; Vonage is not the only VoIP provider), with a base price of $15 per month, which includes all the whistles and bells and free nationwide and Canada long distance (unlimited usage costs $28, but I didn't think I would use all the minutes of the limited usage plan, plus the charge for going over the limit is minimal compared to cell phones). Then I activated a new, bare bones phone line over the DSL wires for my fax for $12 per months. This gave me a separate fax number that I didn't have before, a lot of additional services, and a bill quite a bit smaller. Setting up the VoIP caused some problems with my WiFi system which required changing settings on a lot of my devices.

If you want to port your current local phone number to the VoIP line, which I did, the phone company had to activiate a different line for DSL, which was a little bit of a hastle. I took the opportunity to upgrade my DSL speed. My internet was down over a weekend and a couple of weekdays during the switch.

Bottom line, though, you're still using your local phone lines for all these different options. Theirs is the only wired service going to your house. Even if you went to VoIP, the provider would rent a line from your phone company.

Hope this helps. If you need any more info, message me.

Steve


13 posted on 08/23/2004 8:54:41 AM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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To: Parthalan

What we did was have our landline taken out completely. We use CableVision for broadband and T-Mobile cell for voice. No more voice spam problems!


14 posted on 08/23/2004 9:00:33 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona

ok, my point was that if you want DSL then you have to have a land line.


15 posted on 08/23/2004 9:41:02 AM PDT by Parthalan
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To: Parthalan; AFreeBird

Yo Parth, AFB thinks - and I quote - "you don't need the land line phone for DSL." What's up with this?


16 posted on 08/23/2004 9:43:13 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I'm the dandy highwayman that you're too scared to mention . . .)
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To: steplock
Misinformation...

cable brings with it - left-wing, socialist, homosexual trash TV

Cable internet is available WITHOUT the cable TV. I should know, I have it through Comcast. When they install the internet connection they put a filter on it to deny the Cable TV signal.

17 posted on 08/23/2004 10:20:32 AM PDT by RedWing9 (No tag here... Just want to stay vague...)
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To: RedWing9

true true - but you must pay extra $10 in some areas - more in other areas if you do not have digitall cable service.

So it costs even more.

BUT --- if you live more that 17,000 cable-feet from the telephone office, you cannot get ADSL. Then you should go Cable-Modem.

Only use sattelite if you have neither - I have recommended that option to those living in the mountains in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming or any other area without fiberoptic systems.


18 posted on 08/23/2004 11:30:25 AM PDT by steplock
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I copied this from my web site - it's just easier than typing everything over.

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19 posted on 08/23/2004 11:35:38 AM PDT by steplock
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ok, my point was that if you want DSL then you have to have a land line.

No you don't. Qwest in urban Arizona offers bare DSL without a landline connection.

20 posted on 08/23/2004 12:08:44 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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