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A VIETNAM VET FISKS "TOUR OF DUTY"
Michelle Malkin's Blog ^ | 8/24/2004 | Terry Sater

Posted on 08/24/2004 4:53:13 PM PDT by Born Conservative

Here's a letter I received today from Terry Sater, a Vietnam Vet who served with the Mobile Riverine Force in the Mekong Delta during 1968 and 1969. He writes that "I'm not part of a 527. I voted for McGovern, Perot and Bush. I didn't volunteer for Nam. I didn't want to go. I am not a hero. I served with heroes. Kerry has dishonored all of us."

Sater said he sent the letter to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, but doesn't expect it will run. It it is reprinted here in its entirety:

People don't get it. They point out how "suspicious" it is that the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" are "only now" coming out with their charges, as though they should have formed their organization to refute John Kerry when he was a twenty-six year old nobody. Kerry has made his service in Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign. He has only himself to blame that his service has been questioned. Michael Moore and Whoopie Goldberg spew their venom. The "MoveOn.org" website carries the motto "Democracy in Action". The Swift Boat Veterans are supposed to shut up. I served twelve months with the Mobile Riverine Force, in the Mekong Delta, during 1968 and 1969, manning automatic weapons on an Armored Troop Carrier. During the first three months of 1969, I operated in and around the little village of Ha Tien, at times, with Kerry's Coastal Division 11 Swift Boats. If one of the men I served with was running for President, I would be extremely proud. If there was any way I could support him for President, I would. The bonds that are formed in combat are special. They are strong. For the men that served in Kerry's unit to state that he is unfit for command cannot and should not be brushed off as "partisan politics." It is not a "Republican vs. Democrat", or "conservative vs. liberal" issue. They aren't doing it for money. It is personal. The Swift Boat Vets are men who came to know John Kerry in the crucible of war and saw things in John Kerry that are so disturbing, that they cannot sit quietly. They also saw and heard one of their own come back from Vietnam and trash the legacy of everyone who served honorably. John Kerry's lies of atrocities are largely responsible for the terrible reputation Vietnam veterans have lived with for their entire lives. He testified that we were murdering, raping and torturing, with the consent and direction of the entire chain of command. Now, John Kerry is angry that these 254 men dare to question him.

I haven't read "Unfit for Command", yet. I have read John Kerry's "Tour of Duty." He reminds me of a popular cartoon in Vietnam, the "Saigon Warrior". The "Saigon Warrior" cartoon figure had his helmet pushed down over his shaded eyes, ammunition belts crossing his puffed out chest, a sword in one hand and his M-16 in the other. He was a caricature.

If you served in Vietnam, you don't have to read "Unfit for Command" to question Kerry's record. His own book; "Tour of Duty" will do that. I will only point out a few things in his book that stood out, to me.

A photo caption in Kerry's book states; "A Swift boat convoy heading up the Bo De River." If Kerry had spent more than four months in Vietnam, he may have known the picture was actually a column of "PBR's" (Patrol Boat, River), not his swift boats.

The book often refers to his four month stint on the Swifts as Kerry's "second tour", since he had spent time on "the guided-missile frigate U.S.S. Gridley, aboard which he visited Vietnam for the first time in March 1968." He states in his book; "Every day that the Gridley patrolled the Gulf of Tonkin an enemy attack was remotely possible." The Gridley steamed in the Gulf of Tonkin, also known as "Yankee Station." I served on the U.S.S. Enterprise, in the Gulf of Tonkin. No self-respecting sailor who served "in-country" would have considered a tour at "Yankee Station" as a tour of duty in Vietnam, unless you were a Navy pilot.

A lot has been made of John Kerry volunteering for combat. On page 104 of his book, it reads; "John Kerry would be training in San Diego for what he thought would be purely coastal patrolling of Operation Market Time, whose objective was to establish a barrier along the coast of Vietnam to interdict the infiltration of insurgent supplies by sea."

On pages 171 and 172, Kerry describes the base for Coastal Division 11, at An Thoi. First, he described the beauty of An Thoi, which was a small village on Phu Quoc Island, good distance off the coast of Vietnam. "But to the U.S. servicemen who fought in the area and had some awareness of such ghastly guerrilla tactics as booby traps, underwater mines, and sniper nests, all An Thoi signified was danger." While I must admit the possibility that my boat crew may have been painfully ignorant and subjected ourselves to mindless risk, we viewed our occasional trips to An Thoi as the closest thing we could find to "R&R". We swam in the crystal clear waters near the village of An Thoi. We fished with percussion grenades and watched as the villagers swam out to scoop up the stunned fish. We drank and played on the beach, with the dogs that roamed the island, at night.

On page 176, he describes his Swift Boat; "Horne neglected to mention that that hull might not be able to stop a BB at a thousand yards." Even his strongest supports must admit he has a tendency to exaggerate.

On the same page he states; "For those boats stationed near the Mekong Delta, a fine source of entertainment presented itself: making hell-for-leather dashes up the Viet Cong infested rivers through "free fire zones", with guns blazing, mostly for kicks and to have something dramatic to write home about." Think about it. You are in "Viet Cong infested rivers." Would you risk low ammo to fire at nothing, "for kicks"? My boat was an armored troop carrier. We carried four .30cal machine guns, two .50cal machine guns, two 20mm cannons and a "Mark 19" grenade launcher. We kept our guns clean. We plugged the ends of the barrels with grease, so that moisture didn't get into the barrel. We kept plenty of ammunition on hand. We did not want to put ourselves at risk by running out of ammunition. We were not allowed to fire freely. During one operation, the last boat in our column was taking sniper fire. The boat captain requested permission to fire back. His request was denied. We could not fire at will, for fun and entertainment.

On page 179, there is a reference to an incident that occurred on October 14th. Page 181 begins with; "Only a few weeks later, Kerry, on a PCF-44 patrol, observed four troop battalions from the Ninth Infantry Division at Dong Tam and five Mobile Riverine Force squadrons staging an assault for the benefit of Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird. "To facilitate putting on a good show, an area was picked out for the landing where the chance of guerilla contact was minimal." Kerry sneered. "Nothing was to mess up the show for the secretary of defense." I was with River Assault Squadron 13 during this time period. Melvin Laird was the secretary of defense from January 22, 1969 to January 29, 1973. At the high point, there were only four squadrons of the Mobile Riverine Force. The four squadrons were split into two larger groups; "Group Alpha" and "Group Bravo", in early summer, of 1968, spread out over different parts of the Mekong Delta. All four squadrons were never pulled together to put on a show for Melvin Laird.

Kerry renewed his decades old smearing of Viet Nam veterans, on page 211, describing Cobra gunship pilots; "Yet Kerry found himself troubled by the realization that some of these wild boys could kill innocent people from a distance and not be bothered by it. He was no pacifist - far from it- and understood that "accidental atrocities" were a part of war. But it disturbed him that even a few trigger happy American yahoos considered killing Vietnamese civilians a sport."

Page 218 relates that Kerry wrote in his notebook, from Sa Dec; ""Merry Christmas from the most inland market time unit." He meant to be clever and point out to his superiors the incongruity on a river canal not far from the Cambodian border northwest of Saigon." In truth, Sa Dec isn't near the Cambodian border. Look at a map. Second, hundreds of various types of Navy craft were all over the Mekong Delta, many in much worse places than Kerry. The "Saigon Warrior" would like everyone to think that he was the lone "Rambo", sitting in VC territory, all alone.

I hope that the whole truth comes out. I believe it will if people read "Tour of Duty", "Unfit for Command," and Kerry signs the "180" form which will allow the Navy to release all of his records, not just the ones he has selected.

Terry Sater Eureka, MO


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnfnkerry; kerry; malkin; sater; sbv; swiftboatveterans; swiftboatvets; tourofduty; vietnam

1 posted on 08/24/2004 4:53:14 PM PDT by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative

ping


2 posted on 08/24/2004 4:58:05 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http:\\www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: Born Conservative; All
To read the latest on the Franchurian Candidate's bizzare exploits, click the picture, goto "last," and work backwards:

If you would like to help the Swift Boat Vets ( as I have, and I urge all to do-- even a few dollars will help ) kindly click on this logo:


If, perchance, the top "click the pic" link is not visible, click here:

-John Kerry- some selected, informative links...--


I want you to help the SwiftVets-- here's how:

1st download the videos and burn them onto a CD or DVD and Hand Them Out! Take lots of extra copies.

Q. Could you please help those of us that are neophytes how to copy?

Both ads are on the SwiftVets.com site. Under "topics" click on "Latest News".Then, see newbie guides at http://www.doom9.org/guides.htm

( Kudos to Fuzzy! )

3 posted on 08/24/2004 5:00:27 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Born Conservative

Thanks.

Trying to figure out when I can send to my email list. They are likely full up for a few days!


4 posted on 08/24/2004 5:05:56 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Born Conservative
We fished with percussion grenades...

As opposed to, what, woodwind grenades or strings grenades? I had a passing familiarity with concussion grenades, but I never was lucky enough to get my hands on one of the super-secret "percussion" grenades....

5 posted on 08/24/2004 5:06:29 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against Jean-France Kerry.)
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To: Born Conservative

God Bless guys like this who come out with nothin but truth.

These truths will sink Kerry, but not without a horrendous and lie-filled last gasp from the Kerry Ferries, which will make Kerry's exasperated actions to-date look like fun n'games.

I just despise Kerry and all those g*dd*m Clinton liberals who are behind this creep of a candidate!!!


6 posted on 08/24/2004 5:06:45 PM PDT by Husker8877
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To: Born Conservative

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7 posted on 08/24/2004 5:08:07 PM PDT by federal
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To: Born Conservative; muawiyah; Mitchell; secretagent

"He states in his book; "Every day that the Gridley patrolled the Gulf of Tonkin an enemy attack was remotely possible."

I suppose Robert McNamara would have considered that remotely possible. In fact I think he claimed it actually happened once...

BTW, this sounds like "the shrapnel could have hit his eye" and "the fourth purple heart could be for his death". Strained logic.


8 posted on 08/24/2004 5:15:26 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Born Conservative

Bttt...


9 posted on 08/24/2004 5:21:29 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: backhoe
The best selling book now is

UNFIT FOR COMMAND

I predict that the best selling book of 2005 will be

THE "FINAL" MISSION: HOW THE SWIFT BOAT VETS SANK THE KERRY CANDIDACY

10 posted on 08/24/2004 5:22:32 PM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: federal

Bump.


11 posted on 08/24/2004 5:24:48 PM PDT by FReepaholic (George Bush: Saving your butt whether you like it or not.)
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To: Born Conservative

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12 posted on 08/24/2004 5:40:36 PM PDT by pop-aye (For every journey, there is a higher path.)
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To: Born Conservative

Print out and wear as a Campaign Button or go HERE to print.

13 posted on 08/24/2004 5:42:14 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Born Conservative

The establishment media and punditry and the political establishment can't handle the truth.


14 posted on 08/24/2004 5:48:43 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Born Conservative

Ouch! This must go to public radio people so it can get alittle national attention!!!


15 posted on 08/24/2004 5:51:18 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: clintonh8r
I never was lucky enough to get my hands on one of the super-secret "percussion" grenades....

Here we come, snare drums a snarin'.

Fish, look out!

16 posted on 08/24/2004 5:55:28 PM PDT by Ole Okie (Kerry has "Write-Only Memory"!! Sear it all you want - it can't be read!)
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To: Shermy
No Vietnam veteran considered a tour at "Yankee Station" as a tour of duty in Vietnam, unless you were a Navy pilot.

Best thing about Yankee Station was watching carrier ops, worst was boredom. Did pick up a little action on the gun line at Point Alpha.

17 posted on 08/24/2004 6:10:37 PM PDT by tlrugit
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To: tlrugit

CORE NEW NEWS = ANOTHER KERRY LIE regarding the "show" for Sec. of defense Laird.
This should be supplied to your local newspapers, and included in your letters to editors.


18 posted on 08/24/2004 6:21:13 PM PDT by USMCVIETVET (Kerry No Special Friend to Jews or Israel)
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To: Shermy
On page 179, there is a reference to an incident that occurred on October 14th. Page 181 begins with; "Only a few weeks later, Kerry, on a PCF-44 patrol, observed four troop battalions from the Ninth Infantry Division at Dong Tam and five Mobile Riverine Force squadrons staging an assault for the benefit of Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird. "To facilitate putting on a good show, an area was picked out for the landing where the chance of guerilla contact was minimal." Kerry sneered. "Nothing was to mess up the show for the secretary of defense." I was with River Assault Squadron 13 during this time period. Melvin Laird was the secretary of defense from January 22, 1969 to January 29, 1973.

Kerry apparently said Sec Def Laird witnessed a staged attack in October 1968, impossible since Laird didn't become SecDef until 1969.

Another CiC moment?

19 posted on 08/24/2004 9:04:12 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent; Chieftain

Sounds like another lie to me.

It may have happened, but he fudged it to pin it on the Nixon administration.


20 posted on 08/24/2004 9:27:50 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
I just got this SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH EXPOSE KERRY'S FRAUD sticker on my truck this afternoon.

Made by fellow FReeper disabled vet who has a bone to pick with Kerry, like we all do!
Large $20 (24" Wide 12" Tall) like mine
Small $10 (12" Wide 6" Tall)
Profits go to SwiftVets.com

FReep mail for details.

21 posted on 08/24/2004 9:28:27 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: secretagent
He doesn't actually date it. He dates something as "an incident that occurred on October 14th."

Then, he says "a few weeks later..." the 'staged landing' took place.

1,2,3,4 = ~11/14/68; 5,6,7,8, = ~12/14/68; 9,10,11 = into first week of Jan/69; 12,13,14 WEEKS is minimum those "few weeks late" could have occurred, IF Laird went to Vietnam rather than to Nixon's Inauguration.

Looks like 'a few *months* later would have been a more accurate lie.
22 posted on 08/24/2004 11:20:17 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (It may have been 'two kids fooling around.)
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To: Born Conservative
Serving on Yankee Station; do not underestimate your service. No matter if you were on the carrier or one of the picket ships, no matter if you only slung hash, You provided essential support and protection to aviators, in country troops as well as the friendly civilian population of SVN. CTF 77 provided support for all air ops in the north and central areas of VN. CTF 77 made possible all the flights out of Danang made by my unit. What bothers me about Kerry almost as much as his post VN service treachery is his inability to understand the concept TEAMWORK
23 posted on 08/25/2004 12:06:00 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Chieftain
Geez, Gunney, that big a$$ sticker is going to back up lib drivers for miles. I've heard Rangers "Lead the Way" but you are certainly going to "Plow the Road".

P.S. Make the libs merge right.

24 posted on 08/25/2004 12:26:25 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: BIGLOOK
P.S. Make the libs merge right.

I like that line!

25 posted on 08/25/2004 2:37:30 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: ApplegateRanch; Shermy
Thanks for correcting me:

He doesn't actually date it. He dates something as "an incident that occurred on October 14th."

Then, he says "a few weeks later..." the 'staged landing' took place.

Shermy, I got it wrong, date-wise. Of course, the larger issue, whether Kerry made up the "staged landing for Laird", remains.

26 posted on 08/25/2004 2:28:58 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: clintonh8r

Look if the 1812 overture can have cannons- the Kerry overture can have percussion grenades.


27 posted on 08/25/2004 3:02:23 PM PDT by lastchance
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To: clintonh8r

You might want to "google" "percussion grenades" before you start laughing too hard. They were black, beer can size and weight. The guys on the boats in Mekong Delta used them to discourage enemy divers. They weren't "frag" grenades. I may be mistaken, but you may be thinking of concussion grenades that would be used to stun an enemy in a tunnel, building, or house.


28 posted on 09/01/2004 5:00:23 PM PDT by Star20
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To: Born Conservative

**I hope that the whole truth comes out. I believe it will if people read "Tour of Duty", "Unfit for Command," and Kerry signs the "180" form which will allow the Navy to release all of his records, not just the ones he has selected.**

Bumpo on that!


29 posted on 09/01/2004 5:04:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: secretagent
Kerry apparently said Sec Def Laird witnessed a staged attack in October 1968, impossible since Laird didn't become SecDef until 1969.

Another CiC moment?

That October date doesn't fit with Kerry's time on the Swifts. He didn't report there until November 1968.

30 posted on 09/01/2004 5:15:59 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Salvation

I believe that for the most part, Kerry's FANS bought his book; "Tour of Duty", more than anyone else. If more people picked it up, they would be able to pick out a lot more errors and issues out of his book. They may just hate the idea of putting more money in Kerry's already stuffed pocket.


31 posted on 09/01/2004 5:33:26 PM PDT by Star20
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To: Bob; ApplegateRanch
Bob, see AR's #22. The October date serves as a reference point. The text doesn't put Kerry on Swift Boats then, and refers to Laird's visit "a few weeks later".

Kerry can skate on this one for now.

32 posted on 09/01/2004 8:29:09 PM PDT by secretagent
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