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Finally figured it out John Kerry's Bronze Star engagement
Questions and Observations ^ | 24 August 2004 | McQ

Posted on 08/24/2004 7:41:51 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16

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1 posted on 08/24/2004 7:41:53 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Excellent report, Thanks for posting it


2 posted on 08/24/2004 7:47:52 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

bttt


3 posted on 08/24/2004 7:47:55 PM PDT by NYTexan (....back to the bunker!....)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

The truth be told - ALL officers in Vietnam were awarded at the MINIMUM a Bronze Star thereby trashing the medal's worth won by truly deserving military members.

The Army awarded the Bronze Star to most soldiers that received the Combat Infantry Badge.

The military version of "grade inflation"


4 posted on 08/24/2004 7:49:48 PM PDT by steplock
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Great find bump.


5 posted on 08/24/2004 7:49:49 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Great report, thanks for the info


6 posted on 08/24/2004 7:51:26 PM PDT by glocker23
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To: NavySEAL F-16

BTTT


7 posted on 08/24/2004 7:52:27 PM PDT by datura (When you lead by fear, laughter is the most frightening sound on Earth.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Alan Colmes challenged John O'Neil tonight on this point; John attempted to clear up the confusion; and Alan may have been coming 'at this' - at John, actually; by way of tht NYT's article.

John offered that a picture of the boat; taken the day before showed the windows were blown out etc.

Of course, Alan was unable to grasp; hear/see/understand the 'truth' of what O'Neil was explaining; and so Alan concluded precisely where he began; in the misrepresentation of the story.

I hope the audience, otherwise - ' got it'.

The only people who could doubt the truthfulness of John O'Neil; are those who areobviously 'blind to the truth'; period. And we know who they are. . .

(These people would/could see a lie - in the face of a baby; no doubt about it. . .if it could work for them.)

8 posted on 08/24/2004 7:53:02 PM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

BTTT!


9 posted on 08/24/2004 7:53:47 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

The NYT should run a correction. Regardless of their politics, this requires a correction for their readers.


10 posted on 08/24/2004 7:55:38 PM PDT by Jack Bull
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To: NavySEAL F-16

It's amazing how those who read solely the MSM reporting of it come away with a different idea of how the events unfolded then those who actually read the reports.


11 posted on 08/24/2004 7:56:10 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Makes sense.


12 posted on 08/24/2004 7:57:43 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Have to admit, I have never read the NYTs version.
But what is contained here is what I've always thought happened. Even the WaPo agrees with the SBVT version and not the NYTs. It also fits the spot reports if you adjust for Kerry's lies. If you look at the little map the CO drew up on the spot report it makes sense. The way it was written up was decidely misleading in my mind.
I still question the battle damage for the 94 boat. It would not have been the tow boat. There is no way they repaired that kind of damage at the LST, it had to go up to An Thoi and be fixed by the USS Krishna ARL-38 or by the local boat yards. There will be records of that. And they should be available via FOI.


13 posted on 08/24/2004 7:58:10 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Kerry is Toast du Francai')
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Thanks for the translation.   The number of abbreviations is mind numbing.  At any rate, I sure am learning a lot about Viet Nam.
14 posted on 08/24/2004 7:59:10 PM PDT by Free2Be49 (A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left. Ecc. 10:2 RSV)
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To: steplock
I beg to differ.

A buddy has two silver stars; one as a SGT, one as a 1st Lt.

He also has a bronze star (with V) as a Sgt., none as an officer.

He is one of only two Marines to receive a Combat Commission in Vietnam. All the others received some other type of battlefield commission.

I knew very few Marine officers with bronze stars.
15 posted on 08/24/2004 7:59:50 PM PDT by opbuzz
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--A mine detonated under PCF 3 and units were taken under small arms fire several times during the operation

This sentence really says it all. While at first glance it may appear to indicate there was small arms fire when PCF 3 was hit, that is clearly not what it says! Instead this sentence summarizes the extent of enemy contact during the SEA LORDS operation and clearly lists two events-1. a mine detonating under PCF 3 and 2. Sporadic small arms fire during the course of the SEA LORD operation [not at the mine detonation]

Again thanks for the research, this is clearly 'documentation' that supports rather than refutes the Swifties.


16 posted on 08/24/2004 8:00:15 PM PDT by glocker23
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To: cricket
Of course, Alan was unable to grasp; hear/see/understand the 'truth' of what O'Neil was explaining

Alan was just reciting the Kerry talking points, which apparently had been spewing forth all day.

17 posted on 08/24/2004 8:01:58 PM PDT by Ole Okie (!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Great job!


18 posted on 08/24/2004 8:04:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jack Bull; NavySEAL F-16

Absolutely this requires more than a retraction.

NSF-16: can you send this to the Ombudsman at the NYT AND as a letter to the editor to the NYT & to Hannity (and Colmes) and maybe to David Asman at FNC (try: asman@foxnews.com
....just a guess; Asman was in the Navy and has a Marine son, IIRC). You might want to expand and write it out as clearly as possible for civilians.

Just to hedge your bets, maybe send it to some of the bloggers who get a lot of readers/links.....Michelle Malkin, for example.


19 posted on 08/24/2004 8:04:47 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("John, YOU were the wrong one, here". Bob Dole)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
I have back-door contacts for Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and a couple other media folks who will "take my e-mail." Thank you for posting this. As soon as I saw it I knew that it should be sent to those contacts.

Good work to all concerned.

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20 posted on 08/24/2004 8:05:08 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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