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Swift Boat Ad #3: Kerry's Own Shipmate Calls Kerry on Lie
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Posted on 08/26/2004 1:13:04 PM PDT by renotse

does anyone have a link to the video


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; kerry; sbv; stevegardner; swiftboatveterans
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1 posted on 08/26/2004 1:13:04 PM PDT by renotse
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To: renotse
The video
2 posted on 08/26/2004 1:14:28 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: renotse

You just linked to it.


3 posted on 08/26/2004 1:15:29 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: renotse
I just heard it on Hannity. It sounds like Gardner who says, as a crew member, he spent more time than any other crew member with Kerry.

The ad disputes the Rat talking point "Not serving on Kerry's boat."

4 posted on 08/26/2004 1:16:36 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: mcg1969
Whoa.....excellent.

Not only are this guy's wheels coming off, they are being replaced, systematically, with square ones just for good measure.

5 posted on 08/26/2004 1:16:59 PM PDT by Victor
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To: mcg1969

Shoot...was going to try to save it on the hard drive since it is taking forever to load (may be dorm network settings or something though).

I guess I will head to the newspaper office and see if it works there (am on a diff network there).


6 posted on 08/26/2004 1:17:23 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: aft_lizard

plus...didn't Kerry say Nixon was president in December of 1968 also?


7 posted on 08/26/2004 1:17:42 PM PDT by Ceoman
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To: renotse

Wow. It's all I can say.


8 posted on 08/26/2004 1:17:56 PM PDT by The Great Yazoo (Hey, Hey J-K-F, How Many Vets did you Diss Today!)
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To: Ceoman

Yes, Kerry did.


9 posted on 08/26/2004 1:18:38 PM PDT by The Great Yazoo (Hey, Hey J-K-F, How Many Vets did you Diss Today!)
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To: renotse

Saw the video. Two words: Brew-Tal.


10 posted on 08/26/2004 1:20:22 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Imagine whirl peas)
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To: mcg1969

Powerful.


11 posted on 08/26/2004 1:20:45 PM PDT by Bombardier (Target.....target....target....BOMBS AWAY!!!)
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To: Victor

If Kerry can’t handle a few casual shots across the bow now, wait till the all out assault begins after the convention. This is going to be one sweet Autumn.


12 posted on 08/26/2004 1:20:47 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: renotse; All

In answering a member's question, I was amazed at how few direct links to the ads I found... both are located here, and I recommend saving them to disc- just in case!


http://www2.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=Ads


13 posted on 08/26/2004 1:20:51 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: mcg1969
B A M ! ! !

Puts to rest the Demoshill talking point of "not being ON Kerry's boat"!

14 posted on 08/26/2004 1:23:40 PM PDT by Sister_T (Democrats AND The Partisan Press are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: renotse

They could have done more explaining about the ramifications of this testimony.

This testimony possible got people killed,
affected American war-time policy,
and disrupted the political environment of the time.

Moreover, he said this to congress and the nation while under oath.

It's good, but it could have gone further...(imo)


15 posted on 08/26/2004 1:23:53 PM PDT by LuckyHat ("Carve out the heart, he said over dinner, pull out the entrails and cut up the meat.")
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To: The Great Yazoo

lies have a nasty habit of doing that to people who lie...the lie itself,if questioned promotes another that has to be identical to the first

if anythings the truth,it's recalled and hardly forgotten.
if a lie is told,it has to be "made up" ..the same each time


Doogle


16 posted on 08/26/2004 1:26:40 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF..408th MMS...Ubon, Thailand "69" ..."Wolfpack".night line delivery "Doogle")
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To: renotse
The First Swifty ad plays(ed) in Ohio, Wisconsin, and West Virginia.

The Second ad is playing in Pennsylvania and New Mexico, which stated playing 2 days ago.

The third ad... I wonder which states this ad will be shown in?
17 posted on 08/26/2004 1:26:42 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Sister_T

RATS new talking pnts--- He wasn't actually in the cockpit with Kerri before bwawawa-wa-wa we were in cambodia bwabwaaawaaa Bush behind bwawaawawa McCaine said bwawawaawaa-wa-wa very suspicious.


18 posted on 08/26/2004 1:27:26 PM PDT by mlbford2 (In TX, orange alert means releasing the safety on your shotgun)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

This is great. We are going to absolutely destroy this cretin. We can't let up -- not only do I want the election to be a landslide, I don't want kerry to ever be able to show his face in public again.


19 posted on 08/26/2004 1:27:36 PM PDT by jojodamofo
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To: mcg1969; MeekOneGOP; onyx; My2Cents; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; OKSooner; VOA; ...

WOW!!!! Powerful ad!


20 posted on 08/26/2004 1:27:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: backhoe

Thanks - I just gave them a hundred bucks.


21 posted on 08/26/2004 1:29:02 PM PDT by Humvee
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To: backhoe

Thanks - I just gave them a hundred bucks.


22 posted on 08/26/2004 1:29:30 PM PDT by Humvee
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To: renotse
Just viewed the 3rd ad... Something struck me... The Swift Boat veterans are coming across as reasonable everyday-type people... They're believable... They're veterans we should be proud of... as are all veterans.

Both may uncles were career Army and Marines... mutiple tours in VietNam...Drill Instructors... Father was active Army (Korea) and then National Guard for ~30 years total.

I give my whole-hearted thanks to those who did something I can't even imagine doing. I was very close to the age and time where I may have been called. In fact, I do remember getting a number.. just can't recall any details.

Oh.. and I just gave $50.

23 posted on 08/26/2004 1:29:46 PM PDT by fuquadukie (If you can't hang with the big dogs, then don't jump off the porch.)
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To: renotse

Nice to see my dollars at work. I want these guys to pass out flyers asking Kerry to answer their 64 questions.


24 posted on 08/26/2004 1:30:30 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: aft_lizard; renotse

Steve Gardner was on with the former San Diego mayor who is subbing for Rush today.

It was a powerful interview. If you missed it; there should be a reanscript on Rush's Website.


25 posted on 08/26/2004 1:31:18 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: tractorman
I'd like to see them address the Clinton-era lawyers trying to threaten and smear them in one of their commercials: "The Kerry campaign doesn't want a group of Vietnam veterans (who earned their medals) to speak out about what they know..."
26 posted on 08/26/2004 1:31:35 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: aft_lizard; renotse


OPPPS.....reanscript = transcript


27 posted on 08/26/2004 1:33:25 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: renotse

Today, the Swift Boat Vets have released a new commercial featuring Steve Gardner, who served ON Kerry's boat:

From the AP earlier today:

Responding to a question at a forum, Kerry said, "All the guys who were with me on my boat, all the guys who were with me in the specific action where they could see it and do it, absolutely document what I said. And as you've seen in the last few days, you're now learning about the lie that's been put out there and how it's been put out there.'

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1200143/posts?page=8#8

Your timing sucks, Kerry. LOL


28 posted on 08/26/2004 1:33:31 PM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: renotse

I love this ad. I hope everyone see it.

These guys certainly do come off as real, everyday, and honest, unlike John Kerry.

I've donated to them once, and am going to do so again.


29 posted on 08/26/2004 1:35:59 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: renotse

This great ad accomplishes several things in a very short space of time. Among them is that it dispels the notion that the SwiftVets "didn't serve with Kerry"...Mr. Gardner mentions at the outset that he served with Kerry longer than anyone else...powerful, essential stuff, as well as the sledgehammer word "lie" which was absolutely delightful to hear in conjunction with Kerry.

I hope that the Kerry minions do indeed take the SwiftVets to court over all this, which Mr. O'Neill has been begging for.

What's that sound I hear? Oh, it's the sound of John Kerry's career and political future melting down into a stinky little puddle on the floor. "holding nose and getting mop and bucket"


30 posted on 08/26/2004 1:36:07 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: PhiKapMom

Thanks Mom....!


31 posted on 08/26/2004 1:37:38 PM PDT by Dog ( formerly known as VC-- - - - - - Combat Dog.)
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To: tractorman
"...wait till the all out assault begins after the convention."

Problem is that these independent expenditures become ILLEGAL within 60 days of the election. I fear for our country's future when the only viewpoints still deemed legal are those of the Vast LeftWing Medyuh Whore'd!!

FReegards...MUD

32 posted on 08/26/2004 1:38:57 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: renotse

I like the ad. Gardner comes across real and very credible.


33 posted on 08/26/2004 1:39:49 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: tractorman
If Kerry can’t handle a few casual shots across the bow now...

And God help us if he gets elected and has to handle real terrorist attacks against the nation.

34 posted on 08/26/2004 1:40:29 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: renotse

Now Drudge has it.


35 posted on 08/26/2004 1:43:21 PM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Mudboy Slim

527's are not under those rules -- this is hard money and 527's rules are delayed until 2006 election.


36 posted on 08/26/2004 1:44:03 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: Republican Red

Kerry truly has bad timing -- dumb move once again!


37 posted on 08/26/2004 1:44:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: renotse

This is soooo great.


38 posted on 08/26/2004 1:45:28 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: PhiKapMom
Yo girl!

Do you know when a candidate is in big trouble? When they start demanding weekly debates.

I love the smell of Kerry fear in the morning. That smell. That Lurchy, Bahston, JFKwannabe, lying, Botox dripping, metrosexual, never been in Cambodia, fake medals, fibbing to Congress, never passing his own law, windurfing, girly football juggling, dorky bicycling, AWOL from the Senate, McCain fellating, $5,000 haircut, mommy TereSa is gonna tell me to shove it smell.

You know what it smells like. It starts with a "V".

39 posted on 08/26/2004 1:47:32 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: SupplySider

And God help us if he gets elected and has to handle real terrorist attacks against the nation

We all know how Kerry (or the Democrats' beloved mannequin Al Gore) would have handled 9/11...He'd have issued an abject apology to the Muslim world and promised to work toward a better understanding of why they hate us and how- with the help of the U.N.- we can change to please them.

All joking aside I hope the prospect of Kerry handling the Islamo-Fascist terrorist situation scares some sense into enough voters to make a difference in November.


40 posted on 08/26/2004 1:48:31 PM PDT by MadAnthony (Islam: The official religion of the Democratic Party)
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To: Mudboy Slim

527s will not become illegal 60 days in advance of election. Ben Ginsburg, being interviewed last night about his resignation from the Bush election, just stated that this group, in no way loses the right to speak and be heard because they have no formal incorporation. They are just a bunch of people who under the IRS rules (till McCain shuts the door on that rule and Ginsburg stated could not be done before Nov. 2) Ben Ginsburg is one of the most brilliant legal minds today!


41 posted on 08/26/2004 1:49:50 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: renotse
Excellent ad, short and tells it like it is. One thing I can't believe is that the Kerry camp didn't see this coming and have a plan all set to go. Did they really think that he could get by with the, "don't you dare question my patriotism" line. It all most seems to me like he was picked to lose.
42 posted on 08/26/2004 1:51:31 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: Mudboy Slim

You are confused about that. There are NO time restrictions on 527s not funded with corporate or union money.

CFR has done almost NOTHING. It imposes minor, trivial limits on the parties, unions and corporations. Limits easily evaded.

We will get to see a whole slew of new ads from 527s in the months to come.


43 posted on 08/26/2004 1:53:05 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: tractorman

I lack graphic's skill. Will someone gifted please post a pic of Kerry and his infamous glass jaw.


44 posted on 08/26/2004 1:53:43 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Kerry/Edwards. A pig in a dress is still a pig.)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Problem is that these independent expenditures become ILLEGAL within 60 days of the election.

Is this the point where freedom of speech is no longer valid in this country? Will they stop Michael Moore's movie from being distributed during that 60 days?

45 posted on 08/26/2004 1:53:57 PM PDT by CurlyBill (John Kerry = Paris by Proxy)
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To: renotse

I demand Kerry's resignation from the Senate. "The Buck Stops Here".


46 posted on 08/26/2004 1:55:08 PM PDT by woofer2425
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To: renotse

BTTT


47 posted on 08/26/2004 1:55:19 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: backhoe; PhiKapMom
Devastating. The timing of it's release ... perfect.

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48 posted on 08/26/2004 1:55:19 PM PDT by Eagle9
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To: Mudboy Slim
Problem is that these independent expenditures become ILLEGAL within 60 days of the election

That is not true .. they can still run ads .. they just can't use corporate or union funds and they can't endorse a candidate

49 posted on 08/26/2004 1:56:33 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: CurlyBill

Hope Mr. Gardner has no skeletons in his closet because you for sure the Democrats will be digging up what ever they can to discredit him, true or not...la


50 posted on 08/26/2004 1:56:46 PM PDT by TheSuaveOne
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