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WHO WILL A.N.S.W.E.R. ???
08/26/04 | vanity

Posted on 08/26/2004 1:51:09 PM PDT by genefromjersey

I see by the papers the courts have barred two "protest" organizations from rioting on the Great Lawn of Central Park during the Republican convention.

One group is a home-grown variant of Hezbollah;the other is International A.N.S.W.E.R. (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism).Just for the heck of it,I decided to check out the latter group's website.

It's pretty clear, from the articles posted today on their site,they are telling their followers they have "overcome" the hostile City and its running-dog Courts,and that the way is clear to hold troop and stomp on the Great Lawn (which they are calling "the People's Park").

Obviously this organization ( which is a poisonous stew of Marxism and Anarchy,and which warmly embraces Islamic extremism ) is hoping for a violent confrontation with the police-for the benefit of the ever-present Media cameras.Its "rank-and-file" will be the pawns,of course.

Browsing through the A.N.S.W.E.R. website, I could find no mention of Sudan, or Darfur,or the 50,000 black Sudanese who have been murdered by their Islamic counterparts.

There was no mention of the 1.2 million blacks who have been driven from their homes,or the ongoing rape of refugees -right in their camps-even as I write these words.

In other words,this noble guardian of the Left is not interested in ending racist acts - if they are committed by Islamic allies; not interested in stopping war -unless the war is being waged against Islamofascists,or "Brother Socialists".

What are they interested in - besides tearing down every democratic regime in the world and replacing it with their Neo-Trotskyite version ??


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To: stanz
If thousands of these anarchists descend on Central Park, how can the police cope with those numbers? NYPD can deal with a few thousand punks without a problem. Especially when bolstered with a couple of thousand state troopers and feds.
21 posted on 08/26/2004 6:37:16 PM PDT by meyer
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To: genefromjersey

A.N.S.W.E.R = C.A.N.C.E.R


22 posted on 08/26/2004 6:38:19 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: Paul Atreides
So good, it needs to be repeated:

Q.U.E.S.T.I.O.N:

Questioning Useless Elitist Socialist Traitors Infesting Our Nation

23 posted on 08/26/2004 6:39:37 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: michael098762001

Yes, Michael, fascinating information.


24 posted on 08/26/2004 6:42:19 PM PDT by meyer
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To: mandingo republican

Liberal media types don't bother to point out that ANSWER is a front for Workers World. They call ANSWER "an activist group", which is a total joke.


25 posted on 08/26/2004 6:52:23 PM PDT by fhlime
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To: genefromjersey

"What are they interested in - besides tearing down every democratic regime in the world and replacing it with their Neo-Trotskyite version ??"

They want our tax dollars. These loser parasites don't want to have to exert any effort in their pathetic lives to earn their way. They would rather the working americans give them a free ride. A.N.S.W.E.R is a collection of oxygen thieves. They are using precious oxygen that the rest of us could use and I hope they do get violent and pay a substantial price for it. I am sick of treasonous commie organizations like this being able to function in the United States. I will not lose one second of sleep if the NYPD gives them what they deserve.


26 posted on 08/26/2004 7:48:49 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Eva

Liberal Gerald Nicosia on VVAW,
HOME TO WAR: A History of the Vietnam Veterans' Movement, by Gerald Nicosia. Crown, 690 pp
http://www.google.com/search?q=nicosia+VVAW
Vietnam Veterans Against the War: THE VETERAN: This History's Bunk
... Subtly, yet presaging things to come, Nicosia splits VVAW into two camps: the
respectable liberals on one hand, led by John Kerry, and the shifty radicals who ...
www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=418 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.vvaw.org ]

History News Network
... US as "AmeriKKKa" on its website. Other radical factions influenced VVAW,
according to Nicosia. "There were guys that were not Maoist
Radical left, Andrew Hunt,
http://www.nyupress.org/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=2507
The Turning
A History of Vietnam Veterans Against the War
Andrew Hunt
ISBN 0814736351
259 pages
Paperback
Publication date: 5/1/2001


27 posted on 08/26/2004 8:07:10 PM PDT by michael098762001
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To: genefromjersey
ANSWER is nothing more than a front for several radical communist orgainizations. They are neither peaceful nor patriotic. They are violent and would like nothing better than to turn this into a communist utopia with themselves as Tzar.
28 posted on 08/26/2004 8:10:35 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: Republic; michael098762001
>>but am VERY interested in Ramsey CLark as a FOUNDER of ANSWER.
 
Ramsey appears to have a certain affinity for fascists -  be they Left or Right...
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Clark+Nazi+%22Karl+Linnas%22&btnG=Google+Search
 
 

29 posted on 08/26/2004 8:13:53 PM PDT by VxH (The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.)
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To: Eva

Left-liberal review of Nicosia on VVAW,
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010709&s=uhl&c=1
Nicosia cited here,
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12571


30 posted on 08/26/2004 8:16:18 PM PDT by michael098762001
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To: Eva

http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2004w13/msg00163.htm
Kwazy Trotskyist on Kerry, Nicosia and VVAW,
http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/maillist.html


31 posted on 08/26/2004 8:19:22 PM PDT by michael098762001
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To: genefromjersey

32 posted on 08/26/2004 8:22:23 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: VxH

http://www.google.com/search?q=pat+buchanan+linnas&sourceid=opera&num=25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Pat Buchanan did too...


33 posted on 08/26/2004 8:29:58 PM PDT by michael098762001
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To: genefromjersey
Here's one of the projects that the leftists are working on. I'm willing to bet that Ted Koppel, Dan Rather, Chris Matthews and other MSM scum will give hand-wringing coverage to "protests" like this.

Oh, and I have more than a little doubt about their sincerity when they say they want to honor the fallen soldiers; I took a look at their website - and its links.


Fred Wright, along with other volunteers helps to construct nearly one thousand full-sized commemorative coffins draped in the American Flag in memorial tribute to the soldiers who have died in Iraq, Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2004, in the Brooklyn Borough of New York. The night's event organized by 'OneThousandCoffins.Org' is in preparation for a half-mile long solemn procession planned for Sunday, August 29 that will pass the Madison Square Garden one day before the start of the Republican National Convention. (AP Photo/Jennifer Szymaszek)

34 posted on 08/26/2004 8:32:04 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: michael098762001

Oops, that will only work w/Opera browser,
http://www.google.com/search?q=pat+buchanan+linnas
http://www.buchanan.org/pma-99-1105-wallstjl.html
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/06/21/clark/
Ramsey Clark, the war criminal's best friend


The former U.S. attorney general has become the tool of left-wing cultists who defend Slobodan Milosevic, Saddam Hussein and Rwandan torturers as anti-imperialist heroes.



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By Ian Williams

June 21, 1999 | In the most morbidly literal way, NATO forces are "sniffing out" more mass graves than alliance spokesman Jamie Shea ever suspected. Dog-eaten sticks of bone poke from putrescent pits on television screens. So it is not surprising that on July 31 New York will see the opening of a commission of inquiry for an international war crimes tribunal. What may surprise some is that its target is NATO's war crimes.

Those who know him will be less surprised that the inspiration for this circus is former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, whom one long-standing colleague described as "a good man gone ga-ga -- at least 25 years ago." Many liberals and leftists cut Clark a considerable degree of slack. For a start he is almost the only person the American left has had in high public office since World War II, even if it was a retrospective success, since his long march leftward only began afterward. His views as the former attorney general are listened to with a respect that would be accorded to few others with such eccentric opinions. As a revered spokesman of the left, he is a perfect symbol for its near-impotence in American politics today.

Everyone who has dealings with Clark uses the word "nice" to describe him. But he often sides with people whom no one with a full deck would call nice. (Clark did not respond to a Salon News interview request.) Many former friends, more in sorrow than in anger, trace his present positions to the company he keeps: the International Action Center, which proclaims him its founder but seems entirely in the thrall of an obscure Trotskyist sect, the Workers World Party. Whoever writes his scripts, there is little doubt what Ramsey Clark is against now -- any manifestation of the power of the state he once served at the height of the Vietnam War.

At the end of 1998 Clark attended a human rights conference in Baghdad, Iraq, where in his keynote speech he pointed out how "the governments of the rich nations, primarily the United States, England and France," dominated the wording of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which showed "little concern for economic, social and cultural rights." The social and cultural rights claimed by his Iraqi hosts include the right to hang opponents in public at the airport, or poison thousands of Kurds and torture and execute any opponent of the regime. And on the legality of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, the silence is deafening.

When he flew to Belgrade to support Slobodan Milosevic during NATO's campaign, there was no word about the siege of Sarajevo, the massacre at Srebrenica or the million homeless refugees from Kosovo -- and even less of those olfactorily eloquent mass graves that NATO is now uncovering. But then, urging Belgrade to resist NATO, while he was there picking up an honorary degree, he told his hosts, "It will be a great struggle, but a glorious victory. You can be victorious."

In Grenada he went to advise Bernard Coard, the murderer of Prime Minister Maurice Bishop. Other clients include Radovan Karadzic, the indicted Bosnian Serbian war criminal whom he defended in a New York civil suit brought by Bosnian rape victims, and the Rwandan pastor who is accused of telling Tutsis to hide in his church and then summoning Hutus to massacre them, and then leading killing squads.

His willingness to accept dubious clients is defended by some attorneys. After all, everyone needs a defense. Others say he has crossed a moral line by defending Karadzic and overlooking events in Kosovo. But looking at his legal arguments, one must question the wisdom of his legal counsel, not just his morals. A prominent international lawyer explains, "He's not really very well up on international law -- I remember he was asking for help in some of his early cases."

In his defense of Rwanda genocide indictee Pastor Elizaphan Ntakirutimana, for instance, he played to U.S. isolationist sentiment, and -- somewhat ironically for a case originating in Texas, the capital of capital punishment -- said his client faced execution if extradited. A moment's research would have established that the international tribunals set up by the United Nations do not have the death penalty, because most countries, unlike the United States, regard executions as barbaric. But even then it seems odd that someone who regards this country so balefully would seek to exempt it from the clear international law expressed by the tribunal. With a foretaste of his blasé attitude over Kosovo's ethnic cleansing, he said that it was "unconstitutional" to extradite someone to the "illegal" international tribunal. "The international tribunal for Rwanda is an extension of colonial power in Africa, which can threaten every African leader. The tribunal is foreign power intervention taking sides to maintain its control over the majority Hutu through Tutsi surrogates."

Attention to detail is not a major feature of his work. While claiming an intimate knowledge of events in the Balkans, only this April he addressed a letter to Bill Richardson as the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., telling him that "the U.S. assaults both Slavs and Muslims to stimulate them to attack each other and to control both." Of course, if he had been reading newspapers other than Workers World, he would have noticed that Richardson has been energy secretary for over a year. Indeed, he may have noticed that Richard Holbrooke, not unconnected to the region, has been stalled in his nomination for the post.

His advice to Belgrade to sue NATO for genocide at the International Court of Justice did not, for example, take into account an existing successful injunction from 1993 against Yugoslavia to stop committing genocide against the Bosnians.

What we are reduced to is the idea that human rights are not something inherent in the individual, but contingent on the politics of the state that abuses such rights. What Ramsey Clark wants from the city of Philadelphia for Mumia Abu Jamal (another of his causes) he calls "colonial" justice when claimed by Tutsis in Rwanda against their erstwhile murderers, or a tool of imperialism when claimed by Kosovars against their torturers.

In fact, many of these political anomalies make sense in light of his role as the figurehead for the International Action Center, which in turn is the front for the Workers World Party. Between them they write his letters and briefs. Respected by some on the left for their ability to bring out people for demonstrations, they are reviled by many for bringing the left into disrepute.

The Workers World Party split from the Socialist Workers Party many decades ago in support of the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956, and it has remained true to its origins. Oddball Trotskyists morphed to Stalinoids, its members have since then supported the Chinese government over Tiananmen Square -- and of course see the current incumbents in Belgrade and Baghdad as staunch anti-imperialists. By appearing on their behalf, the former attorney general allows their views a vicarious respectability that they could never dream of otherwise. Associates take some small comfort from the WWP's hold on Clark -- it means that he no longer carries water for the equally oddball Lyndon LaRouche, with whom he flirted in the '80s.

Clark's is a distinguished Southern pedigree. His father was an attorney general before him and resigned from the Supreme Court to avoid a conflict of interest when his son joined Lyndon Johnson's administration. There were few signs of his current leftism: On Vietnam, the obsessive litmus test of the American left, he failed miserably, supervising the prosecution of Dr. Benjamin Spock for conspiracy to encourage draft-dodging. When he ran for the Senate in 1976, he was to the right of Bella Abzug, and even some of his campaign workers say that by splitting the ticket, he let in Daniel Patrick Moynihan ("Not a big step forward for progressive humanity," one former supporter commented laconically.) Ironically, as a candidate he opposed Israel negotiating with the PLO. Now, he says Islam "is probably the most compelling spiritual and moral force on earth today" and that the U.S. is anti-Islamic. However, this benignly spiritual view does not seem to have extended to the millions of Muslims in Kosovo and Bosnia.

Since the 1970s, he seems to have had little contact with the mainstream of American politics except as an occasional TV pundit invited to speak on the strength of his former attorney generalhood. "My feeling is that he has to be a true believer" in the WWP, says a former campaign worker, although others assume a more opportunistic relationship.

It is not surprising that many of Charles Dickens' eccentric characters are obsessively involved in litigation. It does something to a man -- and especially to a former attorney general. If the world is not the way you want, it must be sued into the right shape. And if conspiracies of the powerful exclude you from existing tribunals, or they return improper verdicts, why then you set up your own marsupial court where you can pull the verdict ready formed from your pouch. Which is why the outcome of his tribunal in New York is already in before the jury has even been empanelled, that the U.S. and NATO are guilty of unspeakable crimes, and Slobodan Milosevic is bathed in the blood of the lamb, not steeped in the gore of Kosovo.
salon.com | June 21, 1999


35 posted on 08/26/2004 8:35:23 PM PDT by michael098762001
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