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Kerry's Lost Opportunity
The Wall Street Journal ^ | August 26, 2004 | HERMAN JACOBS

Posted on 08/26/2004 2:59:28 PM PDT by neverdem

He could have healed the wounds of Vietnam. Instead, he tried to exploit them.

A couple of weeks ago, when she (along with most of the rest of America) learned about the Swift Boat Veterans' campaign against John Kerry, a solidly conservative Internet pal posted the following message to our discussion group:

I really wish they wouldn't do this. It's not going to be pretty and will probably backfire. And the Dems will counter with the missing months of Bush's [National Guard] duty. It was a freaking 30 years ago, let it alone.

In her desire to "let it alone," my online friend expresses a sentiment shared by a substantial majority of her fellow Americans. The subject of Vietnam is one that most of us--especially those of us who came of age during that era--would very much wish to let alone.

Long ago we had given up almost every hope that the nation would--in our lifetimes--resolve upon anything close to a shared understanding of its Vietnam experience. All the arguments one way or the other had been said and heard so many times that only the most boorish could be foolish enough to think that more talk would change anyone's opinion. Age and experience might change some minds (mine, for instance; I was an antiwar teenager in the early 1970s), but further discussion was futile.

In the decade following our ignominious withdrawal, communists would fertilize Cambodia's rice fields with the bones of millions of human skeletons. Of the millions desperately fleeing the daily terrors of communist rule, countless thousands would perish in the Gulf of Thailand or the South China Sea when their pathetically rickety boats capsized under their own weight. If those millions of deaths weren't enough to convince you that fighting communism in Southeast Asia was a truly...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: kerry; lostopportunity; swiftboatveterans; vietnam
Please make any comments on Cincinatus' Wife's thread here. There are very interesting links and moving comments on that thread. I wanted this OpEd to get more exposure.
1 posted on 08/26/2004 2:59:28 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

THE END


2 posted on 08/26/2004 3:10:04 PM PDT by LuckyHat ("Carve out the heart, he said over dinner, pull out the entrails and cut up the meat.")
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To: neverdem

I heard yesterday that Kerry had his own "AWOL while in the reserves" problem. As I understand, sometime after he returned from Vietnam, he went on active reserve status for his last year in the Navy. He was supposed to go to monthly meetings and do 17 days of training. He didnt show up for ANY meetings or training, He also has an extra zinger to his absentees in that this was the time that he went to Paris France to meet with the Viet Cong whom we were then at war with. People have been shot for doing something like that instead of just being embarrassed, so John should be greatful.


3 posted on 08/26/2004 3:44:26 PM PDT by det dweller too
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To: det dweller too

John Kerry All tarnish, no "Shine".


4 posted on 08/26/2004 3:46:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: det dweller too

He does seem to have a problem attending such things as meetings, briefings, and the U.S. Senate.


5 posted on 08/26/2004 4:05:55 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: neverdem
This is one of the best pieces I've read on the subject. One major item missing is a factoid from yesterday's (25 Aug) Investor's Business Daily editorial by Thomas Sowell that Kerry tried to get a deferment from his draft board, didn't get one, went into the NAVY RESERVES in hopes that he wouldn't have to go to Vietnam, got sent anyway (which is the ONLY DIFFERENCE in his Reserve duty from W's National Guard duty), wrote home about trying to get out of Vietnam when he was there, finally did get sent home early as we all know etc., etc.

In other words he joined the Reserves to get out of going to Vietnam, but a decision (not his) was made by higher ups that he would go.

I like one paragraph in particular in this article,

"Some, like Kerry, have not realized there was anything wrong with what he did. Instead, he hopes we will see him as a courageous Vietnam veteran. I do not. He hopes we will admire his bravery. I do not. I remember him more for his misdeeds upon his return from Vietnam."

I have zero respect John Kerry.

detch, Vietnam Veteran
6 posted on 08/26/2004 4:30:06 PM PDT by detch
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To: neverdem

Funny how these leftists were more than happy to bring up their version of "the Vietnam experience" when it suited their propaganda. When real-life vets who were actually there stand up to say, "No, that's not how it happened," these leftists suddenly want "to heal the wounds of Vietnam"

Never forget - democrats and journalists were the ones who spit on the Vietnam vets the first time around and they are doing so again.


7 posted on 08/26/2004 4:46:30 PM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

The article is strong enough that my request in comment# 1 was simply ignored.


8 posted on 08/26/2004 4:54:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

KerrycommiecRAT didn't figure on the WEB or talk radio. These 2 have been his downfall, apparently. Thanks.


9 posted on 08/26/2004 4:56:36 PM PDT by Waco
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To: neverdem
I've discussed Kerry with some libs and there is a very good reason why Kerry can't appologize for his remarks about the veterans. The deeply anti-war far-left part of his base listens to his Senate testimony and says, "Why should he appologize for telling the truth?" If he appologizes, he'll alienate all of those nuts who believe that the war crimes we do know about represent the tip of a much larger ice berg of massive war crimes rather than the bulk of isolated cases of excess that happened. He can't back away from being against the war or he'll lose his base.
10 posted on 08/26/2004 6:27:29 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
I got this SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH EXPOSE KERRY'S FRAUD sticker on my truck the other day. The next day on the way to work and back I got lots of honks and 'thumbs up'!

The sticker serves 2 purposes:
1 - Shows visible support for "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" to passing motorists
2 - Gets the swiftvets.com website visible to the public, so they can and find out more about 'Hanoi John' Kerry

Made by fellow FReeper disabled vet who has a bone to pick with Kerry, like we all do!
Large (24" Wide 12" Tall) like mine
Small (12" Wide 6" Tall)
Profits go to SwiftVets.com

FReep mail for details.

11 posted on 08/26/2004 7:35:58 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Chieftain
I love the sticker but I'm not going to put it on my car for two reasons. First, I live in liberal New Jersey and it would probably get my car vanalized. Second, I think that sort of sticker might create the false impression that I'm a veteran when I'm not. I got a great deal of respect for veterans and their sense of honor, which is why I'm angry not only at Kerry's dishonesty (and I carefully reviewed the charges and responses before I was willing to believe he was dishonest) about his service but the way he's treating the SwiftVets. I've read over all of the evidence and I've been stepping up to defend the SwiftVets against the charges that they are lying but I think the full blown promotion is best left in the hand of veterans, the guys who really have the right to question Kerry's service.
12 posted on 08/26/2004 7:59:11 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
I think that sort of sticker might create the false impression that I'm a veteran when I'm not.

I understand your respect for veterans, but the sticker in no way conveys that the driver/owner is a veteran, or a Swift Boat veteran for that matter.

The purpose is to generate interest in the SBVFT and encourage people to visit the website and learn about Hanoi Kerry, that's why I put it in the boat itself for easy reading.

13 posted on 08/26/2004 8:12:11 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Chieftain
I guess my problem is that if a veteran were to say to me, "Who are you to question John Kerry's service? Did you serve?" I would feel stuck. If someone is attacking the SwiftVets, on the other hand, I feel fine sticking up for them with the facts. I know it sounds silly but that's how I feel. And I am honestly concerned about vandalism, since my car is parked in a covered parking deck most of the day. I've been reluctant even to put my W04 sticker on the car, though I'll probably tape it inside of the window a week before the election and see how it goes.

It's a really great sticker, though. I'm not trying to discourage you. I just wanted to explain why I'm declining rather than having you think I'm ignoring you. I'll continue to give it some thought and see how it goes. I started out thinking that the SwiftVets were a bad idea. It was the horrible partisan treatment they received in the mainstream media that first drove me to buy the book and then drove me to donate money. If the attack gets nasty enough, it might drive me to promote them because I really respect the amount of crap those guys are willing to take for this. John O'Neill is one gutsy guy. If I change my mind on the stiker, I'll let you know.

Ultimately, I think the treatment of Bush's Air National Guard record vs. Kerry's records and Michael Moore vs. the Swift Boat Vets is going to lead to some post-election analyses that will make it impossible for the mainstream media to ever again claim to be anything other than tools of the DNC.

14 posted on 08/26/2004 8:24:09 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
"Who are you to question John Kerry's service? Did you serve?" I would feel stuck. If someone is attacking the SwiftVets, on the other hand, I feel fine sticking up for them with the facts.

You are entitled to your feelings/opinion. Personally, I think that's one of the results of giving the liberals control of the issues. Anyone who can read any newspaper/website can CLEARY see what a FRAUD Kerry is as a politicain, much less a war hero, when he divided this country in the boldest attempt in the past century to re-shape our society.

Think about it for a minute... the A.N.S.W.E.R. crowd is a perfect manifestation of Kerry's 1971 speech. The anti-war VVAW protesters crowd had NO RESPECT for our form of government or for our veterans who put their asses on the line for THEM. PERIOD. Here was a reject Navy Lt., shitcanned by the real HEROES because he was a whiny crybaby when he was assigned dangerous missions, BUT he had the political CONNECTIONS with Teddy the SOCIALIST Kennedy and he got a forum to SMEAR America!

No, I think we OWE IT TO ALL THE GOOD MEN WHO FOUGHT AND WERE INJURED OR DIED, to STAND FIRM and DENOUNCE Kerry for his SLANDER!

And you don't have to be a veteran to do that. You just have to be convinced in your heart that he is BAD for America, and needs to be totally rejected by the American voter.

Now... read "UNFIT for Command" and tell me you don't feel the same!

15 posted on 08/26/2004 8:47:41 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Chieftain
Oh, I've read Unfit for Command and I've gone beyond that into reading all of the accounts by veterans pro-and-anti-Kerry and have looked at his documentation. I'm convinced that he made up the Cambodia stories after watching Apocalypse Now (he never mentioned Cambodia before 1979, even though he could have used that as part of his litany of bad things we did when he was protesting the war). That, alone, says plenty about his character.

Don't worry. I've been taking on liberals elsewhere and watching them change the subject when the discussion turns to details. Like I said, if I change my mind about the sticker, I'll let you know. I'm better with the one-on-one discussions and internet debates than I am with sign waving and pop confrontations. But like I said, if I change my mind, I'll let you know. I'm considering it.

16 posted on 08/26/2004 9:17:51 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

Keep up the GREAT work!


17 posted on 08/26/2004 9:19:47 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Second, I think that sort of sticker might create the false impression that I'm a veteran

No Problem, just tell people you were on top secret duty in Cambodia..

18 posted on 08/26/2004 9:57:22 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Wil H
No Problem, just tell people you were on top secret duty in Cambodia.

Then I'd have to watch Apocalypse Now again to get my details straight.

19 posted on 08/27/2004 8:03:40 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions; Wil H; Chieftain
Check this link if you haven't done so already. The Facts about Bush and the National Guard - The Democratic charges fall apart.
20 posted on 08/27/2004 1:51:54 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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