Activists: Black pastors hinder AIDS fight (VOTING BUSH !!!)

OAKLAND TRIBUNE ONLINE ^ | August 26, 2004 - 3:49:18 AM PST | By Rebecca Vesely

[11th_VA]

Both my wife and I know people of color at work that are hard RATs, but will vote republican over this issue for the first time in their life ... amazing !!!

[no dems]

Both my wife and I know people of color at work that are hard RATs, but will vote republican over this issue for the first time in their life... That's what I've been hearing. How can the Prez capitalize on this in the black community? I think that for one thing, he needs to address this in his speech at the GOP Convention Thursday night. What state are you in if you don't mind sharing?

[writer33]

That's it. We've got to get rid of this SOB, fascist, conservative, gay-bashing president. He's trying to turn this country around. We just can't have this! (Denote heavy, heavy sarcasm)

[Restorer]

Scott emphasized that anyone who is sexually active is at risk for infection.

Totally inaccurate. Monogamous sexually active people have zero risk of contracting this disease. (Assuming their partner is also monogamous.)

[Lunatic Fringe]

Bush has provided more funding to fight AIDS than any other president... not that it matters to people trying to "fight AIDS."

[jwalburg]

The ironies in this story are numerous. The black pastors realize that it is the very attitude that "you should be able to have sex with anyone" that results in the huge numbers of AIDS sufferers.

"The stigma surrounding HIV" is not the problem.

[11th_VA]

Suburban Washington DC (Maryland)

[avant_garde]

Scott said. "It's hard enough to deal with HIV when you feel damned without your church telling you that you are. ... People should be able to have sex with anyone they want."

Churches should promote fornication and rape! WHERE does the wicked whacked and warped left find these people who have the audacity to say this crap!

[mwp99]

This article about the position taken by 20 black Bay Area pastors actually mentions "20 pastors", yet they can't even find 1 of the 20 to at least try to fake balancing out the 3 people critical of the pastors? Pathetic.

[doug from upland]

I almost agree. It is near zero. There is still the possibility of a tainted needle or blood transfusion. But it is almost zero.

[blanknoone]

"The stigma surrounding HIV" is not the problem.

I agree. The problem is the LACK of stigma of high risk activities. Whether that is IV drug use, homosexual activity, or promiscuous hetero sex.

Politically, the black community is an enigma to me. I don't understand how they (as a group, there are certainly exceptions) have stayed so solidly on the DNC plantation for so long. Given that I don't understand it, I cannot predict when it will end. But that said, I see two groups being decisive...black churches and black women. I think there is going to be a serious reaction by black women to the whole 'downlow' thing. And once they start asserting morality...I cannot see how they can stay on the DNC plantation.

[Cheapskate]

whoaaaaa!It seems like I remember the president sending the petite sum of 15 billion to Africa to fight AIDS?????

[nickcarraway]

BUMP

[little jeremiah]

Looks like one for the list! Good one!

[RockinRight]

Bush, as well as other Republican leaders, has given in to a lot of things Democrats have wanted. However, Democrats still hate him. Why bother? Let's just be real conservatives, we'll get the same amount of support, the libs will still hate us, and we will get more accomplished.

[miltonim]

[Molly Pitcher]

GOOD CATCH!! Another wrinkle to this amazing campaign season.

Will Bill Schneider be discussing this next week with Judy W.????? Probably not....

[Jim Noble]

People should be able to have sex with anyone they want

An assertion almost as popular with Republicans as with Democrats, but still, fifty-five years after Kinsey and the start of Hefner's extended publication of "The Playboy Philosophy", false and lacking in any intellectual or empirical justification.

[Jim Noble]

Assuming their partner is also monogamous

Assuming the earth is flat, ....

[sayfer bullets]

"There are HIV-positive people in the congregations of each and every (one) of these pastors every Sunday," Scott said. "It's hard enough to deal with HIV when you feel damned without your church telling you that you are. ... People should be able to have sex with anyone they want."

Who's stopping them? Who's forcing them to sit in the congregation? The unspoken key here is that the people he refers to want to be free of guilt or internal conflict. Pastors, or anyone, who dare challenge their behavior are somehow forcing abstenance? Please.